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Al Qaeda claims responsobility for Danish embassy - 6/5/2008 8:33:52 AM
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WormHeart
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Some of you may know that our (Danish) embassy in Pakistan was bombed a few days ago.
Now Al Qeada takes responsobility.
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The statement was posted late Wednesday on a Web site frequently used by Islamic militants. It said the bombing in the capital city of Islamabad honored a promise by al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden to retaliate against Denmark after newspapers there reprinted cartoons that Muslims say insult their prophet.
Wednesday's message warned that more attacks will follow if Denmark refuses to apologize for the cartoons.
'Al Qaeda statement' claims embassy attack
I believe I speak for the majority of danes, when I say: "Bring it!"
WormHeart
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RE: Al Qaeda claims responsobility for Danish embassy - 6/5/2008 8:50:10 AM
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galadriel2
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UBL and Al-Qaeda certainly match the description of fallen man that Paul puts out in Romans chapter 3 when he writes: 'the way of peace they have not known'. Do you think, Wormheart, that you are demonstrating a commitment to and a knowledge of 'the way of peace' in your response to Al-Qaeda? Why? or why not?
God bless you abundantly,
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RE: Al Qaeda claims responsobility for Danish embassy - 6/5/2008 9:49:42 AM
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mapachito13
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But he has that right and we must defend it.
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That's what we would call defense of the First Amendment in the US. That is why the police protect the neo-Nazis when they have their silly parades. The majority of Americans would like to see them disappear but most recognize their right to speak like idiots!
Agreed, the cartoon was in very poor taste. Muslims also have a right to PEACEFULLY protest the cartoon and the newspaper(s) that printed it but NOT WITH BOMBS.
BTW, I was finally struck with the self-fulfilling aspect of the cartoon. Bomb in turban, bomb used! Doesn't Al Queda realize how they made the cartoon look like prophetic truth?
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RE: Al Qaeda claims responsobility for Danish embassy - 6/5/2008 11:22:03 AM
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galadriel2
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I agree that the cartoon was disrespectful and definitely provocative and has nothing to do with 'the way of peace'. I also agree that we should defend the right to freely exercise speech (as long as other peoples' rights aren't violated in the process and the existence of the State isn't threatened). We should condemn the cartoon as disrespectful and hateful.
I also have to agree that you underestimate how bound you are to Romans, Wormheart - I respectfully submit. God in Christ will judge those who are outside of Christ by 5 criteria one of which is how we have handled the knowledge that we have. I read in a Vernon McGee commentary (he died in the 1980s) and I thought is was so true and so provocative what he said: We will be judged by what we know and what we do with that knowledge. In other words, knowledge is part of a criteria for judgment. Knowledge doesn't save us. It ends up cementing our condemnation when it doesn't lead us to entrust ourselves to Christ......Just a wee bit of food for thought.
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RE: Al Qaeda claims responsobility for Danish embassy - 6/5/2008 11:30:32 AM
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UBL and Al-Qaeda certainly match the description of fallen man that Paul puts out in Romans chapter 3 when he writes: 'the way of peace they have not known'. Do you think, Wormheart, that you are demonstrating a commitment to and a knowledge of 'the way of peace' in your response to Al-Qaeda? Why? or why not?
God bless you abundantly,
Galadriel2
Well, I'm not a christian, so I'm not bound by Romans 
But please notice that I said "bring it" and not "We will destroy you" or any such bravado. We dont activly seek the confrontation, but we have freedom of speach, and no-one - not Al Qeada, not Pakistan and not USA should have any say in how free danes use that freedom.
I actually disagree with the cartoon. Some jerk had to go and depict an arab with a bomb in the turban. It was a provocation, unneccerceryy and totally removed the focus of what the cartoons was all about. But he has that right and we must defend it.
WormHeart
If you were an American, say an American Republican President, you would be ridiculed for cowboy policies, of primitive nationalism, of acting unilaterally even if you had a whole bunch of other countries joining you.
Take as many shots at Al Queda as you'd like.
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RE: Al Qaeda claims responsobility for Danish embassy - 6/5/2008 11:47:18 AM
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I think we need to pursue and prosecute and punish violent jihadists who have committed crimes. I also think we need to bring some light into the situation and tell the truth respectfully - that Muhammad was a false prophet.
God bless all,
Galadriel2
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RE: Al Qaeda claims responsobility for Danish embassy - 6/5/2008 12:01:56 PM
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I tell you, these are dangerous people, they are weapons of mass destuction.
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RE: Al Qaeda claims responsobility for Danish embassy - 6/5/2008 12:11:25 PM
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ORIGINAL: WormHeart
Some of you may know that our (Danish) embassy in Pakistan was bombed a few days ago.
Now Al Qeada takes responsobility.
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The statement was posted late Wednesday on a Web site frequently used by Islamic militants. It said the bombing in the capital city of Islamabad honored a promise by al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden to retaliate against Denmark after newspapers there reprinted cartoons that Muslims say insult their prophet.
Wednesday's message warned that more attacks will follow if Denmark refuses to apologize for the cartoons.
'Al Qaeda statement' claims embassy attack
I believe I speak for the majority of danes, when I say: "Bring it!"
WormHeart
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Does Denmark still have troops in Afghanistan?
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RE: Al Qaeda claims responsobility for Danish embassy - 6/5/2008 12:20:34 PM
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ORIGINAL: WormHeart
Some of you may know that our (Danish) embassy in Pakistan was bombed a few days ago.
Now Al Qeada takes responsobility.
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The statement was posted late Wednesday on a Web site frequently used by Islamic militants. It said the bombing in the capital city of Islamabad honored a promise by al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden to retaliate against Denmark after newspapers there reprinted cartoons that Muslims say insult their prophet.
Wednesday's message warned that more attacks will follow if Denmark refuses to apologize for the cartoons.
'Al Qaeda statement' claims embassy attack
I believe I speak for the majority of danes, when I say: "Bring it!"
WormHeart
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Does Denmark still have troops in Afghanistan?
"Denmark is a close NATO ally, and overall U.S.-Danish relations are excellent. Denmark is active in Afghanistan and Kosovo, as well as a leader in the Baltic region. Prime Minister Rasmussen reaffirmed that Denmark would remain engaged in Iraq even as its troop levels there decline. Denmark and the United States consult closely on European political and security matters. Denmark shares U.S. views on the positive ramifications of NATO enlargement. Denmark is an active coalition partner in the War on Terrorism, and Danish troops are supporting U.S.-led stabilization efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq. The U.S. also engages Denmark in a broad cooperative agenda through the Enhanced Partnership in Northern Europe (EPINE)--the U.S. policy structure to strengthen U.S.-Nordic-Baltic policy and program coordination. "
The U.S. Air Force (USAF) base and early warning radar at Thule, Greenland--a Danish self-governing territory--serve as a vital link in Western defenses. In August 2004, the Danish and Greenland Home Rule governments gave permission for the early warning radar to be updated in connection with a role in the U.S. ballistic missile defense system. At the same time, agreements were signed to enhance economic, technical, and environmental cooperation between the United States and Greenland. "
Source article
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RE: Al Qaeda claims responsobility for Danish embassy - 6/6/2008 4:29:17 AM
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WormHeart
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If you were an American, say an American Republican President, you would be ridiculed for cowboy policies, of primitive nationalism, of acting unilaterally even if you had a whole bunch of other countries joining you.
Take as many shots at Al Queda as you'd like.
And they would actually have a point. As Cow pointed out, we have troops in Afganistan. Had I been president, prime minister (or king) I could make their situation worse.
I think you loose the right to speak your mind freely, when you have the responsibility for a nation.
That being said, the message stays the same. No matter what extremists get up to, they wont get an apology they are not entitled to. Even if they were entitled to it, they would have lost that with the first attempted assassination.
Denmark is a very free society with quite loose security, so I predict we will get hit by a terrorist attack on Danish soil within the next year or two. So be it. They wont accomplish anything with it.
Latest news – the Pakistani have caught three trucks filled with explosives on their way to Islamabad, so there probably more to come.
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RE: Al Qaeda claims responsobility for Danish embassy - 6/6/2008 6:28:41 AM
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If the Danish attacks Al quada, then they want revenge, they Danes want it again,
Where does it end? And how can you beat an enemy that is willing to blow theirselves up?
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RE: Al Qaeda claims responsobility for Danish embassy - 6/6/2008 1:45:43 PM
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I just wanted to say I love that translation of your national anthen. I must say the thought of going to Valhalla to fight forever with Odin is a much more noble way to go then meeting 72 virgins. Just the idea of hordes of Vikings rampaging, pillaging, destroying those who would conduct such cowardly attacks is inspiring.
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Denmark is a very free society with quite loose security, so I predict we will get hit by a terrorist attack on Danish soil within the next year or two. So be it. They wont accomplish anything with it.
You have the right idea and we have the wrong one. I've argued often that we need to get over 9/11 and just live and not let anyone anywhere disrupt our way of living.
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RE: Al Qaeda claims responsobility for Danish embassy - 6/7/2008 11:13:45 AM
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galadriel2
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I agree, lightshineon, there are a lot of pigs out there. Our own American governing elite are right up there with Al-qaeda. To paraphrase Vernon McGee: If you see no need for Christ, you are in God's eyes the greatest sinner of all.
....That God would grant that you would be strengthened in your inner man that Christ would dwell in your heart by faith...being rooted and grounded in love that you may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth, length, depth, height, to know the love of Christ that surpasses knowledge and so be filled with all the fulness of God....to Him who is able to do exceeding abundant above all we ask or imagine according to the working of His glorious power, to Him be glory in the church....Ephesians chapter 3 (I have doing this quickly - running out on the computer - hope I quoted it right)....There is no other religious experience than this. Everything else is counterfeit - from a demon or ourselves and no service to God that doesn't come from this experience and the power given through it is useless, false, and from our sinful nature.
God bless all,
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RE: Al Qaeda claims responsobility for Danish embassy - 6/7/2008 2:53:38 PM
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WormHeart
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If the Danish attacks Al quada, then they want revenge, they Danes want it again,
Where does it end? And how can you beat an enemy that is willing to blow theirselves up?
Well, it's not really our approach to just run around and bomb suspected Al Qaeda sites.
We use Intel, have Spec. Ops. working inside Afganistan and generally use a bit more finesse. Our troops in Afganistan will of course fight the Taleban and Al Qaeda - that's what they're there for - but we dont "get even" until we're sure we got the right people.
Al Qaeda want something they are not getting - an apology and a defeat of free speak.
We can't really punish people who blow themselves up - we have to work the other angle. Try to stop making them want to do that.
WormHeart
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Praise King and Country with might
Bless every Dane at heart
For serving with no fright
The Viking kingdom for Danes is true
With fields and waving beeches
By a sea so blue
National Anthem of Denmark
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RE: Al Qaeda claims responsobility for Danish embassy - 6/7/2008 3:00:10 PM
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WormHeart
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I just wanted to say I love that translation of your national anthen. I must say the thought of going to Valhalla to fight forever with Odin is a much more noble way to go then meeting 72 virgins. Just the idea of hordes of Vikings rampaging, pillaging, destroying those who would conduct such cowardly attacks is inspiring.
Thank you 
We dont pillage and destroy much these days, though, although a rampage is on if the beer runs out.
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Denmark is a very free society with quite loose security, so I predict we will get hit by a terrorist attack on Danish soil within the next year or two. So be it. They wont accomplish anything with it.
You have the right idea and we have the wrong one. I've argued often that we need to get over 9/11 and just live and not let anyone anywhere disrupt our way of living.
Well, terrorist only have one weapon in their arsenal - Fear.
They are incapable of doing any serious harm to a society, so their real threat is the fear of them.
There's just not enough terrorists in the world to affect a society, so we shouldn't do their work for them. 9/11 was the strongest terrorist-attack on US ground ever. 3000 dead.
Ten times that number are killed by traffick every year, without society crumbling.
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The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said 43,443 people were killed on the highways last year
http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2006/08/24/71690.htm
WormHeart
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Praise King and Country with might
Bless every Dane at heart
For serving with no fright
The Viking kingdom for Danes is true
With fields and waving beeches
By a sea so blue
National Anthem of Denmark
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RE: Al Qaeda claims responsobility for Danish embassy - 6/9/2008 6:18:07 PM
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galadriel2
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I think Usama and these guys are dangerous. I don't feel confident either that the Lord is going to give America godly and wise leaders who can shed any light on current events. We in America, anyway, are headed for trouble, it seems to me.
God bless all...Keep yourself in the love of God and build yourself up in your most holy faith.....
Galadriel2
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