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Finders Keepers - 7/5/2008 11:02:59 PM
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Beanteaser
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If one finds a nickel, is that person obligated to find the owner?
If one finds $1000, is that person obligated to find the owner?
Do you believe in "Finders Keepers?" If so, when does that rule apply?
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RE: Finders Keepers - 7/5/2008 11:31:16 PM
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humbleinspirit
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If its $1,000 dollars then yes, a nickel then no. The reason being a nickel is not lilkely to break someone at all, but $1,000 on the other hand...
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RE: Finders Keepers - 7/5/2008 11:50:14 PM
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karlie
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It would be nearly impossible to find the owner of a nickel. No one is going to go to the police station and file a report about a lost nickel and then sit around hoping someone will turn it in. That's highly unlikely and you could spend a lifetime walking around asking people if they lost a nickel and probably never find the person who lost it.
But, someone will most definitely go to the police and report a lost $1000(or even $50 or $100), making it very easy to return the money to the owner with hardly any trouble at all.
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Do you believe in "Finders Keepers?" If so, when does that rule apply
I would never keep anything I found if there was even a small possibility that I could find the owner, or there was a lost and found area to turn something in.
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RE: Finders Keepers - 7/6/2008 12:26:03 AM
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Maybe the level to return what you didn't earn is directly in proportion to the amount. The effort(or resources)devoted to return a nickel is perhaps, 'Hey! Is that's your(or you over counted by) nickel, quarter, etc...' versus contacting the appropriate authority be it police, bank, etc...
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RE: Finders Keepers - 7/6/2008 12:37:50 AM
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MrFribbles
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I think I agree with everyone so far.
Now, if someone drops a nickel right in front of you, and you pick it up and pocket it, then I would say that there's a problem there. Stealing is stealing, no matter how small. But if you have no idea who dropped the nickel, then I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping it.
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RE: Finders Keepers - 7/6/2008 6:11:08 AM
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I turned in a dime I found on the floor at my job to the lost and found... I felt the pleasure of the Lord for it, too. I don't know about the specific morality of it, but I know that I'm not keeping money I find on the sidewalk.
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RE: Finders Keepers - 7/6/2008 8:44:55 AM
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I agree Fribbles. The point is that you can't return what cannot be identified with someone. If someone looses something, no matter how trivial, and you see it happen....please return it. Ya never know, you might brighten someone's day and they'll pay-it-forward.
I am not sure, legally, where the line is with money/value and the requirement to report it to the police for possible recovery. I should look it up someday.
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RE: Finders Keepers - 7/6/2008 2:45:43 PM
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I found $100 on the floor in a grocery store. As far as I was concerned, it did not belong to the grocery store, because of where I found it there; it must have been dropped by a customer. So I reported it to the cashier at the customer service station, and she said their policy was that they would hold it until the owner came forward; if no one did, they would return it to me. I responded that this was not my policy, so I was taking it, and they could call me when the person who lost it came forward.
I immediately went home and called my son, who managed another store in the same company. He laughed! He said it was a good thing I did it that way, because they would have just pocketed the money -- that is what most of the managers did.
I gave them three weeks to contact me, and they didn't. During that period, I asked at the desk several times, but no one had come forward. In the end, I just could not keep the money. I told one of the leaders at my place of worship what had happened and gave it to him, telling him to go out to dinner.
So now, my son manages a bank. On the Fourth, he was talking about how found money is managed there. By company policy, they can't pocket it. By law, they can't put it in the till. By law, they can't keep a "kitty" to help balance the books. They can't give it to a customer. They can't give it to an employee except under extremely particular circumstances that the company sets up, with the knowledge of all, for that employee, for reasons of hardship. I dare not tell you what they do with it, but the bank cannot keep it. So if I find a significant amount of money in a bank, I would do what I did at the grocery store, unless I thought I knew who had dropped it; then it would be given to that person if at all possible.
"Finders, keepers" doesn't work when there is the slightest possibility that you can figure out who the item belongs to. To keep it is theft.
< Message edited by Covaan_Meshuga -- 7/6/2008 2:53:52 PM >
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RE: Finders Keepers - 7/6/2008 5:07:18 PM
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I 'found' about $200 in 10's and 20's just loose on the floor at a Big Town deli when I was 'visiting' the restroom. I knew where it came from; the manager had dropped it.
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RE: Finders Keepers - 7/8/2008 3:20:43 AM
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A few years back I found over $400 in an envelope at a bus stop. The envelope had a payslip in it. This also was the same night as my Home church which was lead by our the church secretary. I turned the money into her and she called the owner.
If I did not know who the $400 belonged to I would take it to the Police Station and turn it into them. They would probably have some kind of policy; like if the money is not claimed in so many days then I could keep the cash.
A coin on the street I pick up and keep.
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RE: Finders Keepers - 7/8/2008 5:11:21 AM
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If you find money...its mine.
You can send it to me at.........
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RE: Finders Keepers - 7/8/2008 8:04:31 PM
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If you find something of value you should make every effort to find the rightful owner. If you do not find the rightful owner you should treat it as belonging to God and give it to charity or someone in need.
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RE: Finders Keepers - 7/8/2008 8:42:32 PM
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I used to work with a woman who, not once but twice, sent an email to the entire company (100ish employees) stating that she had found a nickel in the change slot of the soda machine. The funniest part was she had left "request read receipt" on, so she got 100 replies that people had read her email!
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RE: Finders Keepers - 7/10/2008 12:52:53 AM
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No, I do not believe that. I have found money, a large amount, I turned it into officals. I never, ever, try and be dishonest in anything. It is one of my strengths, among many weak traits. I would consider that stealing to keep money, that I found.
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RE: Finders Keepers - 7/12/2008 2:39:58 AM
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humbleinspirit
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Last week I found a $100 bill on the floor at my work. Knowing that it wasn't mine I turned it in, not knowing if the original owner would ever be found or not.
Then earlier this week one of my co-workers was saying it is really good to know you! I just thought he was kinda joking around, etc. then he hands me $10 and tells me that the $100 that I found last week was his! So it all worked out quite well!
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