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RE: Introducing Christ to Characters: How, why, and when? - 4/29/2008 1:11:24 AM
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Have you read any Christian Sci-Fi? It might help give you an idea of how to handle the things you're wondering about, seeing how others have done it. I remember reading a kids' sci-fi years ago called Zaanan. The story took place in a different time, different everything, and Christianity was outlawed but the Bible was accessible through a stone that, when one held it, the information would transfer to the brain without being heard (can't remember how they did it). It was a very engaging story.
It seems to me that basically what you need to do is invent how the gospel has been preserved through time to the culture you're writing about. You may not need to reveal it all in your story but if you have it figured out in your mind then the relevant parts of that history will show through when needed.
People of a different time and place are really no different from the people you know. Everyone has the same needs, that empty hole that needs filling that only God can fill, but which we all try to fill in other ways. Perhaps something else you could do is read some short stories on how people today have come to Christ and then adapt them for your own characters.
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RE: Introducing Christ to Characters: How, why, and when? - 4/29/2008 11:28:53 AM
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Thanks a bunch, that is a good thought I like it, when you put it like that it turns from impossible to something somewhat doable. I especially like the observing other Christians and how they came to Christ and then incorporating that into my characters what an interesting idea. Your right to if I think of how the bible has been preserved or passed through the generations its easier to keep the stories believable. I was running into trouble because I was like okay I have an alien race on a different planet, how in the world did the Bible and a human religion get on their planet and adapted into their race but I suppose if you think about it, than it is no different than sharing the gospel with foreign speaking people.
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RE: Introducing Christ to Characters: How, why, and when? - 4/29/2008 2:36:45 PM
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In my Joe Box series, I had Joe come to the Lord in the first book through the intervention of an old ex-cop, Joe's mentor when he was still on the force. It comes when Joe is at a make-or-break, suicidal point in his life (he'd lost his wife an unborn son in an accident, which in turn led to his quitting the CPD and becoming a raving drunk for the next twelve years).
The conversion was, I feel, raw and organic. And in Joe's case, ongoing, as in the subsequent novels he tries to integrate his new walk of faith with that of his gritty profession (he's PI who takes on hopeless cases).
Right now I'm working on a spec-fic novel, with the MC a fallen-away pastor (and former Army Ranger), who's finding himself almost unwillingly regaining his faith.
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RE: Introducing Christ to Characters: How, why, and when? - 4/29/2008 11:41:27 PM
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Interesting, I've read a few books with real life scenario's like that by Christian authors and they are powerful and uplifting, I put sci-fi into a tougher genre though because how do you rate what is important to an alien species or meaningful or symbolic when their race is supposedly so different from ours. How do you create an unique species that at the same time uniquely accepts God as the one true God in the Universe and incorporates him into their everyday whacked out lives lol. There's really no one answer out there and I am slowly working through my questions as the book is written and through lots of prayer I was just wondering if anyone else had an alien species that they had shared faith with or written about. Everybody's ideas are welcome though and each person who posts reminds me of examples I had forgotten about like yours Suspensewriter. Sci-fi is such a broad genre that you can incorporate anything from anywhere and yet still turn out believable characters and worlds its awesome.
For example:
Before she could second-guess herself she started walking, it only took a couple of minutes to reach her destination when she knew where she was going. She paused in front of the heavy oaken door with her heart beating fast in her chest. A quick glance in either direction showed that she was unwatched and the feeling of importance grew. Spreading her fingers she splayed both hands on the cool wood of the door trying to imagine what someone like Drakar could possibly hide behind it. Could it have something to do with Margaret? That thought chilled her; surely he hadn’t been responsible for her disappearance? She couldn’t imagine Drakar killing anyone let alone keeping evidence in his castle the very idea was preposterous.
Swallowing hard she turned the handle of the door, grateful when it opened easily, the thought that it might be locked hadn’t occurred to her until that moment. She didn’t know what she would have done if the door was secure it would probably have brought her sleuthing to an inglorious end. The winding stairwell did nothing to ease her wariness and she blinked down into the darkness, the stone steps looked chipped and worn. There were no torches on the wall sconces and she hadn’t brought a flash light with her, like the locked door the possibility that there were stairs leading down into darkness had not occurred to her. Fascination propelled her forward and she had only taken two steps forward when the door drifted closed behind her. She remained frozen on the top step as darkness wrapped around her choking off her air like an anaconda. Turning she felt along the grainy wood for a handle, panicking when she couldn’t find it. Drakar would find her in here and he would be mad at her because he hadn’t wanted her to find out what was down here. Or scarier than that was the thought that he wouldn’t find her.
Leaning against the comforting solidness of the door she frantically thought of what she should do next, she could pound on the door, scream for help, or find out if the stairs eventually led to a light source. Her heartbeat sounded loud in the surrounding darkness and blinking she slipped down the door to the floor feeling the cool stone against her fingertips. This could be kind of fun she tried to convince herself, she had always wondered what it would be like to be blind, if she went slow and felt her way along she could descend the stairs without falling. Scootching forward in a clumsy crab crawl until her feet fell off the first step and landed on the second with dull thuds causing her to laugh at the picture she must make in her luxurious dress inching along the floor on her butt. One foot and hand at a time she went down the stairs in a sitting position and when she came in contact with the wall as it curved around she stuck next to it leaning against it as she increased her speed and half stood on her way down. It seemed like forever but she finally reached the bottom of the winding steps.
The only problem was it wasn’t any lighter down here, she had no idea what this room held and the open space was unnerving. Visions of Margaret’s remains flashed before her sightless eyes and she had to work hard not to scream. Sucking in deep breaths she stood slowly feeling as though the walls and ceiling were closing in on her. She felt trapped and helpless and her courage was fast deserting her so she did the only thing she could think of that would get her out of her predicament. “Drakar!” she screamed at the top of her lungs her cry echoing off of the hidden walls and around the room “Help! Someone please I don’t know where I am…” a sound cut her off in mid-screech and made her heart pound fiercely. She desperately tried to recall what it had sounded like and then it came again, a quiet step in the darkness and the brush of something soft against the floor. She let out a startled gasp; it came from the middle of the open room and sounded as if it was drawing nearer.
“Who’s there” she managed in a strangled whisper the thought that someone other than herself was down here had not occurred to her either. It seemed apparent that sleuthing required a lot more fore thought than she originally thought. When only silence greeted her question she had to work hard not to hyperventilate. “Okay,” she said out loud to calm her overactive imagination “apparently this wasn’t a good idea, I don’t know if anyone else is in the room with me, if there is not than I have learned my lesson and will go snooping in other people’s houses, castles, whatever no more. If there is someone else in here with me than I am so freaked out right now so hopefully your not some kind of monster or something.” Out of nowhere warm hands closed around her own cold ones and she found herself pressed against the wall behind her with her hands crossed at the wrist and held over her head.
A distinctly male presence seemed to fill the space in front of her but she still could not see anything and the sheer suddenness of the movement and contact had her screaming and struggling. Warm full lips descended on hers, effectively cutting off her voice and quelling her struggles. The dark intensified the sensation of his lips on hers she noted briefly before all thought left her. She had never been kissed by anyone before and her imagination could not have ever prepared her for this. She could not have ever predicted that a male stranger would be in the dark room waiting to capture her and kiss her senseless. Apparently she needed to rethink her strategies a little more. A male chuckle reverberated through the darkness as he pulled back and the tenure of it made her feel queasy. “Uncle? Is that you?” she asked tentatively, hoping that it was him so that she would be with someone she trusted, yet hoping it wasn’t him because relatives weren’t supposed to kiss each other especially not like that.
“I thought I told you that there was nothing in here but storage?” he replied in answer and she felt mortification come over her as well as a new spurt of unease. He still hadn’t released her wrists and the thought that he could kiss her again made her feel ungainly and awkward. “I-I uncle please let me go, this feels wrong, we are related, this is wrong!” she managed to get out her voice sounding breathy and excited despite herself. He sighed long-sufferingly the dark making it more drawn out than it was before he answered, “We are nay related Lilly.” His silken voice wove around her like a cloud of feathers and left her devoid of breath and unable to speak. She felt his grip on her wrists shift slightly but an apprehensive tug proved she was still held firmly. She flinched slightly as his fingers came out of nowhere and trailed down her cheek lovingly before he continued. “Lilly I made it up that we were related to get you to come to my castle, which is why the phone reception is out, I have cut you off from the rest of the world in a way.”
Fear scorched through her entire being like a forest fire as she thought about the implications of what he had said and tried to formulate a reply. “Why? Why would you do something like that, I don’t even know you?” she finally managed in confusion “how did you decide to pick me?” Her eyes searched the dark endlessly his voice seemed somewhat disembodied in the overwhelming vastness of the unknown as he responded. “I don’t know how I picked you, you were just a random name I thought up and then hunted down, and in a long list of names you were the seventh.” She shifted against the wall her dress rustling in the darkness and then felt panic seize her throat, mangling the words as they came out “the seventh? You mean…Margaret, oh my gosh, she was number six wasn’t she?” Trembles wracked her at the implications of that “W-what did you do to her Drakar?” she whispered softly. He released her wrists and snarled like a wolf causing her to shrink against the wall before he hissed “I didn’t do anything to her Lilly, I truly don’t know where she is!”
“Yeah,” she replied “Well you’re scaring me Drakar, why would you pretend to be my relative and lie about me inheriting the castle if you didn’t have ulterior motives?” She could hear him pacing a few feet away the suddenness of his release was shocking and unnerving. Since she couldn’t see him the terror that he could reach out of the darkness at anytime and touch her or hit her or whatever it was freaky psychotic people did to their victims had her tensing up at every sound. He stopped and then spoke again his voice almost pleading “I was doing, am doing experiments, there are people who don’t want to see me succeed and they have been sabotaging me any way they can, so far stealing my test subjects seems to be a great way to halt the experiments.” Her eyes widened in the darkness and she breathed in shock “You’re a mad scientist performing experiments on helpless women? Where are we in your laboratory or something?” His sudden laughter made her smirk as well, the hilarity she could hear in its tone touching her heart.
Her eyes narrowed and she pondered the last couple of days “your horse and plants and wolf are weird but other than that I think you are a normal person, you aren’t just trying to scare me for snooping are you because this story you’re weaving sounds outrageous.” He snorted and then stopped laughing “Lilly,” he said softly his voice rippling around her like waves in a pond “I’m not human, I come from another planet and yes I am doing experiments on human women.” Lilly blinked and then shook her head in the darkness “you expect me to believe you are an alien? What kind of experiments are you doing than?” There was silence and then his voice sounding serious and yet eager broke through the darkness “I am experimenting with love, I am seeing what the female of this race is capable of, how their minds work and if they are as smart as we are.”
Lilly thought about that for a moment and then frowned in the darkness “I don’t understand?” He reached out and trailed his fingertips down her cheek again leaving little other worldly sparks of sensation in their wake “On my planet the only thing human’s are used for is food and maybe slaves if you’re lucky, you are in no way considered our equal. It has gotten to the point where Vale is on the verge of launching an invasion and conquering Earth. The only reason they haven’t is that the argument that human’s would start tasting the same. The emotions and various uniqueness that humans breed in each other would be wiped out in one collective fear of Valiens and then you would no longer be a delicacy you would lose your different flavors.”
Lilly’s mouth had dropped open in disbelief at his chilling explanation and she felt a sliver of coldness slither down her spine. “You’re saying that your species eats humans and views us as only a food source and is on the verge of conquering our planet?” At his confirmation she felt weak with the horror of what he was saying if it was true, “Alright so let’s say for a moment I believe you, how do your experiments fit into all of this?” Drakar captured her hands in his again massaging the backs of them with his thumbs as he spoke his voice holding weariness in its depths “I want to prove that humans are just as smart as Valiens, sure so we need you to survive, uniqueness needs to be protected and the women of your race hold the key to preserving their offspring. It is my belief that if I find a woman and convince her of my good intentions than she can accept the fact that mankind is not alone in the universe and that Valiens are dependant on humans. If I can get Vale to put a law in that restricts Valiens from torturing, killing, and decimating the human race, one that will preserve it for generations to come then I think it isn’t far fetched that we could eventually get along peaceably with each other.”
“Why do you care so much if you are a Valien?” Lilly asked quietly unsure of her role in all of this. She could feel his reflective silence hanging in the darkness between them and then his voice emerged “I have many friends that are human and have been surprised more than once by their strength of character and heart and mind…” There was silence for a few moments as Lilly tried to wrap her mind around what he was saying. Half of her was convinced there was definitely something unnatural about this whole predicament and the other half was still skeptical. Then he spoke again his voice low and full of conviction and his words smote her in the heart.
“I believe in God and I cannot see him enjoying in the slaughter of his children. I don’t want to be wiped out because I unknowingly hurt his creation.” Lilly thought she had heard the surprising stuff already, but she was completely floored by his last statement, her heart leaped within her breast and she could feel the desire to believe him welling up within her. Closing her eyes she turned her hands palm up to grasp his “I will help you any way I can Drakar, your goal is truly amazing and I trust you, there is something about you that tugs at my heartstrings I couldn’t walk away from this even if the option was open to me.”
Drakar blinked in the darkness looking down at her wide open trusting eyes and felt his heart constrict within him. “I don’t deserve your help or your kindness” he rasped back at her “you don’t understand who and what I am, what I’m capable of and have done to humans in the past.” She tightened her hold on his wrists as her heart pounded in her chest “and you don’t understand the power of the God you speak of or the strength of his spirit which is telling me that you speak the truth and urging me to go with you.”
It was his turn to feel fear and he swallowed hard as he asked the burning question that had eaten at him forever “Why would your God want to help me, I’m not human?” She laughed softly “You don’t have to be human to receive his love, look at the angels he created them first and still holds a place for them in heaven all you have to do to be accepted by him is accept the gift his son gave to us by dying on the cross for our sins.” She felt the truth of her words well up in her heart and two tears trailed down her face as she remembered the brokenness in his voice as he bared his heart to her. “Do you feel my love for you?” she asked quietly and he stretched out his mind to touch hers feeling as he did so a love so overwhelming that it nearly brought him to his knees. Then it was gone…no it was still there, all around him just no longer overwhelming. It was like a comforting blanket enveloping him in warmth and acceptance.
He grinned baring his fearsome teeth in the darkness his eyes gleaming blackly in the dark. “Thank you Lilly, I feel the truth of your words and they bring me hope.” He replied softly. Then tugging gently he started to lead her deeper into the room towards the hidden door that would take them to his ship. “Where are we going?” Lilly asked uncertainty and a hint of fear in her voice despite her resolve to help. Before he could answer she continued breathlessly “can you see in the dark Drakar?” He laughed at the awe he heard in her voice his laughter echoing around the room and dying out as he replied “Aye, lass I can see in the dark easily, I can see the beautiful dress you are wearing the shadows make the bronze color flash with black light and your hair looks like golden mist hovering around your head.” Lilly felt pleased surprise curl through her at his words and couldn’t help smiling and standing taller as he pulled her through the murky dark. Knowing he could see her and remembering what she looked like and how beautiful the dress was made her feel gorgeous. Hearing him describe how it looked in the dark was fascinating, she had never thought that colors and things could look good or shine with anything with no light.
This is one idea I had for incorporating God into my story lol I don't know if it worked or not, what do you think? Corny should the alien already know God....
What about this?
Things are not as they seem, came a voice from deep inside her. Trust only in Me. She frowned. What was God telling her? Drakar paced in his study his thoughts not letting him rest, his mind continually replayed dinner and the confrontation between him and Lilly. Confrontation, not the word he would have chosen for a polite dinner discussion but the only one that could describe what it had become.
He ran both hands through his raven black hair and let out a frustrated sigh, for the second time this day he was unsure of himself. His brown eyes flitted restlessly around his study, the quietness and carefully chosen furnishings usually provided him a place where he could get away from it all. His mahogany desk with books and papers strewn across it, bookcase stocked with books he had gone to great trouble to acquire, legends every single one of them. Then there was the rich purple carpet, and little reading table as well as his lush black desk chair that was so soft he sometimes fell asleep in it.
There was even a dictionary stand, but instead of a giant dictionary on it there was a bible. In all the universe he had never ran across a book or religion for that matter which is what it symbolized that made as much sense as the one in the Bible. Although there was the slight problem of him not being human, he was sure that God in all his wisdom would accept him. Well, not really sure, it was definitely something he struggled with every once in a while, but if God could make allowances for the Gentiles then he could make an allowance for him too, and maybe the rest of his species as well.
Both are from the same story and the second exerpt is his thoughts before the first excerpt. Whaddya think? Good, bad, awful, off the wall? lol Be forewarned this is nothing like what it will look like finished, this is merely the rough draft hence the almost unbelievable and rushed explanation of who and what he is lol Also they are pulled from different parts of the story not right next to each other with lots of action in between them so don't expect to get the whole picture from them. Of course there is also this snippit as well, which is from the same story also:
The wind carried Prov on her wings, guiding him through an open window and into a kitchen area. The smoke hovered over the stoned floor then his legs appeared, followed by a torso, arms, hands and head. He took a deep breath, filling his lungs with the sweet earth air. The house seemed to shudder as if it felt his tiny movements in its belly. He placed his hand on a wall. Drakar’s heartbeat echoed through the stones and bricks. Same old Drakar, he thought as a small smile curved his lips.
He arched one eyebrow, and then scowled. Not only did he feel Drakar’s heartbeat, he felt his enemy's presence overflowing the castle, cocooning it like a mother’s blanket. Prov shook his head. The old man was growing stronger everyday. He wasn’t the same weak being he had remembered. But he still had the same weakness, thinking he was safe on some distant planet. He snorted. Little did he know, the Master had placed a huge price on Drakar’s head and now every assassin and bounty hunter was searching for him. But Prov was first in line. A sneer inched its way across his brown face. The old man was such a fool.
He cocked his head. The girl was still alive. His sneer slipped away like the red fog drifting over the black waters of Kas. The power surrounding her was stronger now. And it wasn’t Drakar it was something bigger. His shaking fingers wiped across his dry lips. He had traveled from one side of the universe to the other and never had he encountered something so commanding and potent. It seemed to pulse with some strange energy while exuding a commanding force. He shivered. But it was a Being without a heartbeat and it was bigger than him, the Master and Drakar. The Being seemed unstoppable and its hand hovered over the girl like an invisible Guardian.
And Drakar had not started the experiments. He frowned. The Master had assured Prov that Drakar was starting a fourth testing. But the house seemed still, not like before, when it moaned and groaned under the strain of Drakar‘s mad research. Something else moved amongst the bricks and mortar. It seemed like him, a Changer, but yet seemed more human than the Changers from Kas. The hair on the back of his neck rose and he shivered. Someone or something was watching him. Drakar didn’t have any allies or soldiers, so who or what, was spying on him?
He took a deep breath and allowed his body to once again shift into smoke. He drifted through the stones and into other rooms. Yet the strange eyes followed his every move. He would have to move quickly if he wished to kill Drakar and collect the credits. He stopped between walled rocks and hovered. And what of the girl? The Master never gave instructions regarding her. Ominous 5 would give top dollar for a slave human. That meant more credits. He frowned. But how could he get past the unseen Guardian that held her tight? He sighed, that would come later. But first he had to kill Drakar. He would worry about the Guardian later. The planet was revolving, spreading shadows across the land. When the night came, he would make his move. He rested amongst the stoned walls, regaining his strength.
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RE: Introducing Christ to Characters: How, why, and when? - 4/30/2008 11:33:25 AM
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Have you gone to any Christian writer's conferences or just writer's conferences? They are a great place to get good feedback on whatever you are writing about with people who honestly want to help and support eachother.
I am writing a fictional work about the first century right now, and I am having some of the same struggles. I recently attended a conference where they discussed 'creating worlds', which is what you are doing. You might look for information on writing groups too.
God Bless and have a great day!
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RE: Introducing Christ to Characters: How, why, and when? - 4/30/2008 6:21:27 PM
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I had a similar problem when trying to write a Christian fiction book (now published).
How to get Christ to inter-relate with the characters of the story. So I chose to have Christ in the background of the story and let the characters inter-relate to Him.
My plot was a Vision of Jesus by some children and how town's people reacted to the news. So although He was central to the story plot He only featured rarely.
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RE: Introducing Christ to Characters: How, why, and when? - 4/30/2008 6:32:34 PM
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To continue what I was saying ... before I inadvertantly clicked the wrong button and published my previous post:
How about a plot involving two alien worlds - one ruled by an autocratic master using punishment as his way of keeping control, whilst the other world is ruled by a loving forgiving king allowing people to learn from their mistakes. The two contrasts could be brought together by a citizen from one world visiting the other and being treated badly, and possibly killed.
Just a thought - hope it helps.
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RE: Introducing Christ to Characters: How, why, and when? - 5/1/2008 12:05:36 AM
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Interesting thought I will have to toss that around in my head it has potential. Thanks for responding you guys its nice to be able to get feed back on this. Do you know of any specific writers conferences going on kvsmm? I'd LOVE to get involved in something like that but I don't know where they are or who is involved.
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RE: Introducing Christ to Characters: How, why, and when? - 5/1/2008 10:23:03 AM
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Novalist, agent Steve Laube has links to all the Christian conferences. Do this. First google his name, Steve Laube (sorry, don't know the link). Then when his page comes up, click "resources" on the left-hand side. When you do the first thing that comes up are links to all those conferences. You should find some that fit what you're looking for. Hope this helps!
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RE: Introducing Christ to Characters: How, why, and when? - 5/1/2008 6:13:09 PM
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Novalist,
Is this the story that some of us were group-writing last year?
I skimmed the bit where you have Lilly and Drakar talking about Christ, and I liked it.
You might want to read Kathy Tyers's stuff (the Firebird trilogy; Shivering World). She writes Christian sci-fi. The trilogy is more fantasy than science. Shivering World seems more science-y. But both include characters coming to Christ. They are very well worth reading.
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RE: Introducing Christ to Characters: How, why, and when? - 5/3/2008 11:15:19 AM
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I had a similar issue in a broad Sci-Fi series that I'm writing. One of the alien races in the series is composed of people that follow Christian practices (though they might not have a word for it), and my line of thinking went like such: if many messengers were sent to humanity, and there are other sentient races out there, why wouldn't prophets and angels be sent to them?
I'm still trying to work out how exactly that would work into what is essentially a homogenous culture that despite its heavy Christian ethics still is caught up in things like territorial disputes, resource claims in the depths of space, and intragalactic wars. It's not as pressing an issue as it once was (since they don't show up in Awakening, the book of the series I'm writing now), but it's still something I'm struggling to find a satisfactory answer for.
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RE: Introducing Christ to Characters: How, why, and when? - 5/18/2008 7:09:57 PM
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I'm still working on it but I've definitely made progress thanks and how would the proof-reading go? I could post sections at at time and ask advice lol like how to make it flow better. The beginning chapters are basically not that much changed but near the end I've added a lot and changed even more so that's where it really starts to pick up. I'm having a blast with it even though it is slow going and could definitely use some good critiquing if you're still up to it.
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