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My friend now has sole custody due to child abuse - 10/5/2008 12:31:38 PM   
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Actually it is my friends daughter but still I am friends with her daughter too. She had joint custody with the father. Well the last two times she picked up her 3 year old daughter for the weekend her hands and bottom were covered in bruises. So they took the baby to the sheriff's department. DFS is now investigating the father for abuse. He does not think it was abuse since he was only following the Pearls book To train up a child. He thinks it is only discipline.

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RE: My friend now has sole custody due to child abuse - 10/5/2008 1:18:56 PM   
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He does not think it was abuse since he was only following the Pearls book To train up a child. He thinks it is only discipline.


Which can easily lead to abuse if not tempered with some common sense. But I'm glad she had the kids now, and I hope she can get permanent custody. It's such a shame he tricked her into getting custody, but hopefully things can be set right now.

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RE: My friend now has sole custody due to child abuse - 10/5/2008 1:54:14 PM   
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He does not think it was abuse since he was only following the Pearls book To train up a child. He thinks it is only discipline.


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RE: My friend now has sole custody due to child abuse - 10/5/2008 3:05:23 PM   
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Anything that leaves marks or bruises is abuse. Period.

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RE: My friend now has sole custody due to child abuse - 10/5/2008 3:26:51 PM   
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I have read that book. I wouldn't follow all of it, but even if a person did, they would not leave bruises. He's just using it as an excuse!

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RE: My friend now has sole custody due to child abuse - 10/5/2008 7:02:50 PM   
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My friends little girl said that they had different sticks laid out and she had to pick which one she was going to get hit with. Sometimes they would hit the tops of her hands and other times her bottom.

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RE: My friend now has sole custody due to child abuse - 10/5/2008 7:10:59 PM   
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My friends little girl told the child abuse investigator that they had different sticks laid out and she had to pick which one she was going to get hit with. Sometimes they would hit the tops of her hands and other times her bottom.


Now that is from the book, actually, to have sticks out in plain sight for switching purposes.

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RE: My friend now has sole custody due to child abuse - 10/5/2008 8:40:21 PM   
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They recommend flexible 'sticks', which is not what this sounds like. A glue stick is what I frequently see parents use, and it stings but you would not be able to leave a bruise unless you were seriously hitting very hard. The parents I know smack themselves on the leg with it before switching their child just to remind themselves how little does the trick.

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RE: My friend now has sole custody due to child abuse - 10/5/2008 8:43:38 PM   
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Oh, I agree this guy probably went way beyond what the Pearls say to do. Even the "nicer" way to do it sounds kinda brutal.

Oh well, hopefully this child will be with her mother where she belongs, and it won't matter anymore.

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RE: My friend now has sole custody due to child abuse - 10/5/2008 10:09:50 PM   
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The Pearls have some good idea's. The problem is that they put this stuff out there and parents who get the wrong idea from the book end up abusing their children. I cannot imagine how hard you have to hit a child to cause bruises.

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RE: My friend now has sole custody due to child abuse - 10/6/2008 2:31:17 PM   
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It is not that hard at all if you are using a thin rod. The force of your swinging arm is concentrated on a very small surface. It can leave marks very easily.

My grandma used to take a peach tree switch to me. It always left marks. Plus back then spanking in school was legal and used on a regular basis. We understood the physics behind paddle-width early on.

I am not anti-spanking for smart mouth older children or blatant law violators.

But a hand spank with my two fingers and a serious "NO" was enough for my toddlers to get the message.

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RE: My friend now has sole custody due to child abuse - 10/6/2008 2:55:55 PM   
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It always left marks. Plus back then spanking in school was legal



There is still spanking in schools here!

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RE: My friend now has sole custody due to child abuse - 10/6/2008 7:42:50 PM   
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Glad your friend is getting custody...what a tough battle.

JnJs, where do you live that spanking is allowed in schools?

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RE: My friend now has sole custody due to child abuse - 10/6/2008 10:58:44 PM   
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I live in Missouri. There is also a show on Tru TV it used to be court tv but it is called the principals office. One of the episodes was kids getting a spanking by the principal. I do not know what state that school was in. People sometimes forget that spanking is legal leaving bruises is not.

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