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Night Time Potty Training - 9/17/2008 12:30:15 AM
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TooLoudx4
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Ok, I could really use some help on this one. My children are ages 9,7,5,4. The older 3 are potty trained during the day but are never dry at night. Once in a great while they can be. They are all really heavy sleepers at night so they don't get up at night. Again, once in a while I hear someone get up for the bathroom. DH solution for this is to have them were their underpants at night and wake them up for the bathroom. This would be a great idea in theory except that I know that he wouldn't be helping me with this brilliant plan. It's getting to the point that my 7yo is almost too big for the pull-ups.
I just don't know what to do and I really need some help. I used to have 3 children in diapers at once before and got thru that phase, but this one has by far been alot harder to deal with. Any comment is welcomed.
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RE: Night Time Potty Training - 9/17/2008 2:39:59 AM
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manda59
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First of all, are they drinking or eating much in the day containing artificial colours and/or sweeteners? Or large quantities of dairy products, citrus fruits, or chocolate? These have all been connected with bedwetting.
Just thought it might be worth looking at that first.
Here is a link that might help: Nocturnal Enuresis
Also, how close to bedtime are they having their last drink?
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RE: Night Time Potty Training - 9/17/2008 9:22:36 AM
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TooLoudx4
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Their bedtime is at 8pm so I try to have them eat supper between 6-7. At times they have something to dring b4 then. I'm sure that there school meals are well balanced. I'm just not sure where to go from here.
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RE: Night Time Potty Training - 9/17/2008 11:29:08 AM
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manda59
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When you've found that one (or more) of them has wet the bed, how do you react and what do you do?
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RE: Night Time Potty Training - 9/17/2008 7:02:12 PM
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If this is a problem for all your kids, I'm thinking it might be a medical problem that runs in your family. That's not really something that you can get a lot of helpful advice for... so if you think that's likely, you should be visiting your doctor.
If you have reason to believe this is behavioral -- for some reason it's not worth your kids' effort to pick up the skill.
Questions to ask yourself around this issue are... Have you really made this skill a priority in your parenting, or has it been something you've been 'letting slide' until now? Do they perceive any 'reward' out of not being dry at night? Do they get adequate opportunities to sleep or do they often seem tired? Has sleeping / bed time ever been a power struggle in your home? Have potty issues ever been a power struggle in your home? Do your children have any reason that they might think that being younger than they are might be a good thing? Would your children think that they have a reasonable amount of self-direction and choices in their lives in general? Do you feel responsible for what your kids choose to do with their bodily wastes? Do your children maybe feel like you are responsible for what they choose to do with those wastes? Is there a lot of body-shame or excessive privacy in your home (by their choice or by your teaching)?
Please don't read any of this as accusatory. They are just points for pondering. Myself, I think the most likely thing is that it's medical.
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RE: Night Time Potty Training - 9/18/2008 2:55:19 PM
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My middle son did this. My mother solved this problem by cutting out, or drastically reducing, his fluids after dinner ( not having salty foods, especially something like pizza or spaghetti will be helpful ) and getting him up, asleep and all, and walking him in to the bathroom before she went to bed. It really did the trick. My mama was awesome! LOL
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RE: Night Time Potty Training - 9/18/2008 3:04:26 PM
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Their bedtime is at 8pm so I try to have them eat supper between 6-7. At times they have something to dring b4 then.
IMO that doesn't allow for much time for their food (and drink) to go down before bedtime (do the 9 and 7 yr olds really go to bed at the same time as the 4 and 5 yr olds?) - you might find that having an earlier supper (or a later bedtime) helps.
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RE: Night Time Potty Training - 9/19/2008 12:22:33 AM
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TooLoudx4
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Right now all the kids go to bed at 8p because of school, well the youngest will fall asleep soon after the others & wakes up when ever the noise level starts to get loud enough. They have always worn pull-ups to bed since they were little. I would just like to know how to get them out of them. Now, I did take my oldest to the Urologyst for another issue and he did mention that the night time incontinence could be heriditary. So, that's just where Im at with it all right now.
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RE: Night Time Potty Training - 9/19/2008 8:37:19 AM
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Maybe you didn't see my question?
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When you've found that one (or more) of them has wet the bed, how do you react and what do you do?
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RE: Night Time Potty Training - 9/19/2008 8:39:50 AM
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They have always worn pull-ups to bed since they were little. I would just like to know how to get them out of them.
Well you have had a few suggestions, and if you answer my question <points up> I might have some more!
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Now, I did take my oldest to the Urologyst for another issue and he did mention that the night time incontinence could be heriditary.
Could I ask what other issue you took her for?
And did your husband or you ever have this problem when you were children?
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RE: Night Time Potty Training - 9/19/2008 9:00:39 AM
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TooLoudx4
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Sorry, to answer your question, I really didn't openly react to a wet bed. I'd get the child up for the day & change the bedding later when I got time to do it.
When I took my oldest (Maleah) to the Dr. it was for lack of badder control during the day at school that she was having trouble with. She would use the bathroom at every break and sometimes more. There for a while I'd keep an extra set of clothes with her at school for just in case. At times she really needed them. So, she got some medicene for it and it has really helped.
I don't think DH (Keith) had any issues with this when he was younger. But, I have a few vauge memories that I may have.
Hope I answered your questions.
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RE: Night Time Potty Training - 9/19/2008 9:15:19 AM
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manda59
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Sorry, to answer your question, I really didn't openly react to a wet bed. I'd get the child up for the day & change the bedding later when I got time to do it.
Do you already have a plastic sheet on their beds? If not I think it would be a good idea, and would probably also mean you might not need to put the children in pull-ups, especially the two oldest ones. Having them not wear pull-ups anymore might also help their subconscious to realise it's not ok to wee in bed, if you see what I mean. Any impulse they might get that they need to wee could be blunted by the fact that it "doesn't matter" cos they're in pull-ups.
The other thing is that I would suggest that, with the older one (and perhaps also the 7yr old), you get *her* to change her bedding when she wets it. Not as any kind of "punishment", but just in a matter-of-fact way of dealing with the consequences herself. It might help reinforce it in her mind that she is responsible for herself in this area (does she not already change her sheets, pillowcase etc once a week, or whenever, for you?)
The other thing I did with mine when they were younger was put an old towel on top of the plastic sheet, between the plastic sheet and the cotton sheet. That meant that if there were any "accidents", the towel would soak most of it up, and they wouldn't be laying in a pool of wee. All that would need to be done then was the sheet taken off, the towel removed, the plastic sheet wiped down and a clean old towel and sheet put back on.
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RE: Night Time Potty Training - 9/20/2008 5:16:42 AM
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Yes, the beds all have plastic covering on them. I understand what your saying about not putting them in the pull-ups. That is kind of what Keith was saying I should do. As far as the one who changes the bedding is me. I do like the added idea of putting a towel in the bed is great. I don't think I would have been smart enough to figure it out.
I guess I'm just afraid to giving it a try without the pull-ups just because of the changing of the linnens and doing it every night who knows how many times and all the laundry. UUUUHHHHGGGGG!!!!! Ok I just had to get that out 
Part of the problem is that they aren't really feeling wet if they are in the pull-ups. This was part of the problem I was having with my 4 year old. The diaper was almost a security blanket with her. We tried potty training at 3 years old, but she wasn't ready or I didn't know what I was doing. We tried the getting her up thing, but she is a heavy sleeper too, and would cry on the potty. Most of the time she would go, but she would still be wet in the morning.
So we took a break. I decided to try a differen't method and have cut off all liquids by 6 o'clock. She goes to bed by 8:30-9:00. We usually have dinner by 5:00-5:30. She has done SO much better with this method. She also gets rewarded for a dry bed, and if she is wet, she helps me change the sheets.
For the month we have been potty training, she has been wet 3 times. And even those times, she was barely wet. In this past week, we went to a party and we were there late, and she had drank pretty late, but she was dry in the morning. The best thing we did was set a cut off time on liquids and food and make her go potty right before bedtime.
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RE: Night Time Potty Training - 9/20/2008 5:20:20 AM
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I also wanted to add that you do want to try and get a handle on this now. It doesn't get any easier the older they get. I know someone, who just a couple of years ago was 17 and wearing adult diapers because she couldn't go the night without wetting the bed. She doesn't have a physical problem either, her mom just got lazy because she was the last child and decided she didn't want to potty train her. And she was the one that suffered the consequences.
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RE: Night Time Potty Training - 9/20/2008 6:12:58 AM
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manda59
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Yes, the beds all have plastic covering on them. I understand what your saying about not putting them in the pull-ups. That is kind of what Keith was saying I should do. As far as the one who changes the bedding is me. I do like the added idea of putting a towel in the bed is great. I don't think I would have been smart enough to figure it out.
I guess I'm just afraid to giving it a try without the pull-ups just because of the changing of the linens and doing it every night who knows how many times and all the laundry.
Then maybe just start with your 9yo, and also tell *her* that she is going to be responsible for changing her own sheet if she has an accident.
Put a couple of bottom sheets and a couple of old towels in her room, and a plastic sack, show her how to take off the bottom sheet and towel and put it in the plastic sack, wipe the plastic sheet down, put a clean towel there and a clean sheet.
Making her responsible for cleaning up might have a subconcious effect in her mind of reminding her to wake up and go to the loo.
You might want to double check when they have their last drink of the night. We used to say no drinks except water after 6pm. I didn't want to restrict liquids completely, but limiting it to water seemed to cut it right down anyway.
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