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Oprah And the end times - 5/23/2008 3:18:33 PM
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eligirl123
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Do you think Oprah has anything to do with the end of times.
She denied Jesus on tv and she belives you dont need Jesus.
she also has many people eating right out of her hand on her religion.
I stopped watching her show after what I saw on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aT6eyKn2rs&feature=related
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RE: Oprah And the end times - 5/23/2008 3:20:57 PM
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Do you think Oprah has anything to do with the end of times.
She denied Jesus on tv and she belives you dont need Jesus.
she also has many people eating right out of her hand on her religion.
I stopped watching her show after what I saw on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aT6eyKn2rs&feature=related
She's obviously the Antichrist. She can't be the Son of Perdition, being female and all.
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RE: Oprah And the end times - 5/23/2008 11:25:19 PM
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I don't know...But she definitely could be called a false prophet or an antichrist.
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RE: Oprah And the end times - 5/24/2008 1:30:19 AM
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ORIGINAL: eligirl123
Do you think Oprah has anything to do with the end of times.
She denied Jesus on tv and she belives you dont need Jesus.
she also has many people eating right out of her hand on her religion.
I stopped watching her show after what I saw on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aT6eyKn2rs&feature=related
Wow, never thought I'd say this... but Oprah just earned a little smidgeon of my respect after watching that video. She smacked down those ignorant audience members. Go Oprah!
I still can't stand her however.
Revelations is not a prophetical book btw.
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RE: Oprah And the end times - 5/24/2008 1:47:19 AM
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Revelations is not a prophetical book btw.
What is it, in your opinion?
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RE: Oprah And the end times - 5/24/2008 2:03:16 AM
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drj11
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Revelations is not a prophetical book btw.
What is it, in your opinion?
It tells the story of Roman persecution of Christians, through symbolism. That doesn't necessarily mean the story isn't applicable to some modern events, but it is not an end times prophecy. I believe it was written at a time when talk of Christ would get you killed... the symbolism was obfuscation.
Pretty much every major historical figure has been thought to be "the beast" or the "anti-christ" by some of those who hold the future prophecy view, and they have all been wrong. Hitler, Napoleon etc etc.
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RE: Oprah And the end times - 5/24/2008 5:03:33 AM
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Revelations is not a prophetical book btw.
I think that is the FIRST time I ever heard anyone say that! 
oprah is an anti-christ.
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RE: Oprah And the end times - 5/24/2008 5:45:54 AM
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Poor Oprah! A few years ago I heard her referred to as a new age witch. Is this what money has done for Oprah?
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RE: Oprah And the end times - 5/24/2008 5:31:50 PM
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I never liked her to begin with. Her show is extremely boring in my book and she's very annoying. But after hearing of her new "Church/Religion", it definitely changed my opinion of her in a bad way. She truly does disgust me!
What sucks is that Dr. Phil is a close friend of hers. And I love his show! lol
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RE: Oprah And the end times - 5/24/2008 10:46:41 PM
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Revelations is not a prophetical book btw.
I think that is the FIRST time I ever heard anyone say that!
You should spend some time researching interpretations of revelations. The most commonly accepted and supported interpretation is that it is a symbolic account of historical events... in a time when simply being a Christian would get you killed. It was symbolic subterfuge in order to escape persecution.
Unfortunately, the charlatan televangelists love to promote the end-times prophetic view, because nothing brings in viewers, ratings, and donations like a little end-times paranoid fear mongering. And its easy to do, as the archaic symbolism in revelations is notoriously hard to understand. It was written in a manner the people of that time would be able to understand, but the meaning of the symbolism doesn't really make much sense unless one has spent quite a lot of time researching that period.
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RE: Oprah And the end times - 5/24/2008 11:17:33 PM
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You should spend some time researching interpretations of revelations. The most commonly accepted and supported interpretation is that it is a symbolic account of historical events... in a time when simply being a Christian would get you killed. It was symbolic subterfuge in order to escape persecution.
Unfortunately, the charlatan televangelists love to promote the end-times prophetic view, because nothing brings in viewers, ratings, and donations like a little end-times paranoid fear mongering. And its easy to do, as the archaic symbolism in revelations is notoriously hard to understand. It was written in a manner the people of that time would be able to understand, but the meaning of the symbolism doesn't really make much sense unless one has spent quite a lot of time researching that period.
you got any sites?
I did a quick search " revelations not prophetic" most sites that popped up were about them being prophetic.
I don't watch TV whatever they are.
I did study about John, Patmos, the Romans, etc, etc.
It is the most common held belief?
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RE: Oprah And the end times - 5/25/2008 3:48:53 AM
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A) No, the historical interpretation of Revelation is not the most common... nor the orthodox interpretation for that matter.
B) Not all eschatological preaching is mere "fear mongering" to make money. Far from it, rather. I know many preachers that teach a futurist model of Revelation that are in no way trying to stir up fear. Actually, most are trying to assuage the fear of the end by teaching about it. Pretty much because Jesus did the same.
C) No, Oprah is not THE antichrist. AN antichrist I can believe... she preaches a lot of synchretism tripe, and that makes her an excellent candidate to be one of the many antichrists raised at the end, but its not enough to declare her the head honcho yet.
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RE: Oprah And the end times - 5/25/2008 9:06:22 AM
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RE: Oprah And the end times - 5/27/2008 12:48:57 PM
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What sucks is that Dr. Phil is a close friend of hers. And I love his show! lol
Does that make him the Son of Perdition?
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RE: Oprah And the end times - 6/3/2008 5:49:00 AM
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Wow that's the first time I have ever been hurt to the core for Gods sake. Usually I just feel sorry for the misguided person. From that link I feel Oprah is not misguided at all. She has publicly renounced Jesus as the only way and I think she truly believes that in her heart.
That lady was right imo. That God knows the heart of people who have never heard of Jesus.
The bit that got to the pit of my stomache was when the lady asked "what about Jesus" and Oprah echoed that phrase with utter contempt.
She is not very influential or popular here in the uk (not sure even if she's on telly here.) I am glad about that. I hope her ratings continue to drop. (not to harm her but to limit the amount of garbage she can feed people.)
She is an antichrist but not the antichrist. There are plenty of people out there spouting dangerous doctrine but many people in the usa seem to hang off her every word and that to me is where the danger lies.
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RE: Oprah And the end times - 6/10/2008 10:48:14 AM
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I have just viewed the Oprah U-tube program. I can only say, For what is a man profited if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Matthew 16:26. It saddens me to find that Oprah still holds this type of view. I had though she was in process of change when she started the new academy for girls, in Africa. We must continue to pray for the Lord to search the hearts of the many following her, and have mercy on whom He will have mercy.
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RE: Oprah And the end times - 6/12/2008 4:11:08 PM
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A) No, the historical interpretation of Revelation is not the most common... nor the orthodox interpretation for that matter.
Adam
Actually the historicist interpretation was at one time considered THE Protestant view of Revelation and held to be many of the early Protestant Reformers.
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RE: Oprah And the end times - 6/14/2008 11:26:59 PM
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She denied Jesus on tv and she belives you dont need Jesus.
Really! When did this happen? I'm sorry to say I think she's very full of herself. She thinks she's this awesomely wise person. Romans 1:22 Professing to be wise, they became fools. Hmmm?
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