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Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 1:12:44 PM
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dianetavegia
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To rebut rumors, Palin says daughter, 17, pregnant
Mon Sep 1, 2008 12:36pm EDT
By Steve Holland
ST. PAUL (Reuters) - The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.
Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin's five children with her husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by the campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.
Bristol Palin made the decision on her own to keep the baby, McCain aides said.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 1:18:19 PM
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dianetavegia
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This has been mentioned on another thread but hijacks that thread.
Let me say right off that today is our only daughter's 31st birthday. At the age of 19, she gave birth to our Nick. Erin gave him up for adoption and Jim and I adopted him.
I am SO proud of our daughter for coming to us when she found out she was pregnant and for not ever considering abortion.
My husband was a Republican State Representative in Connecticut when we found out Erin was pregnant and as public figures, everyone knew within days of us knowing.
Today, I am even more impressed with Sarah Palin! A lesser woman would have turned down the VP slot, knowing her 'Christian values' would come under fire because of her daughter's sin. A lesser woman would have run the other way, knowing a 'mother of five' with a pregnant teen would be quick fodder for liberals who otherwise would be paying a mother of five with a pregnant teen welfare money to keep her in Pepsi and disposable diapers.
Sarah Palin is not a lesser woman. I am proud, so proud, that she is our Republican VP candidate.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 1:34:50 PM
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Good points, Diane.
I think this is a non-issue, but I am sure our "friendly" local libs will try making it in to one.
Bristol was raised to know that sex before marriage is wrong. She chose to disregard her parent's teaching, as teenagers are want to do. Now she sees the consequences, and is doing what anyone should do: have the baby, marry the father, and make their way through life. The baby is coming into a world full of family who will love it.
Again, this kind of story is pretty common fare.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 2:13:27 PM
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I agree. It's a non issue.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 2:18:01 PM
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I think this is a non-issue, but I am sure our "friendly" local libs will try making it in to one.
We'll be able to tell which liberals have class (they'll ignore this non-issue) from the ones that don't (they'll try to explain why this matters and use it to smear).
If as any of you were reading you seriously thought "do any liberals have class" I'd suggest a self check.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 2:32:35 PM
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I hope most have class to let this minor issue pass as opposed to brutilizing a 17 year old girl for a dumb choice.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 2:39:10 PM
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So she wasn't pregnant then, but is pregnant now?
I honestly did not see that one coming.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 2:53:05 PM
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I would hope that Obama's leadership team would have the sense (and CLASS) to let this one pass or they will shoot themselves in the foot.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 3:03:07 PM
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The only problem I see here is that if the shoe were on the other foot - surely there would be some that would fly to the attack that Obama can't possibly be a good leader if he can't keep his children from making mistakes.
I haven't fully made up my mind yet. Right now neither party seems exactly right to me. I just try to see things form both sides before I make a final decision. Neither party has convinced me yet.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 3:04:01 PM
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I guess I am the liberal who has no “class” .
I must say, I am astonished to see that the good Christians in Christian forum talking so positively about teen pregnancy.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 3:07:25 PM
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I must say, I am astonished to see that the good Christians in Christian forum talking so positively about teen pregnancy.
When the young lady in question chooses to take responsiblity and keep the child rather than adopt the liberal view and kill it, then yeah, I think that's a positive thing...
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 3:12:42 PM
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I guess I am the liberal who has no “class” .
I must say, I am astonished to see that the good Christians in Christian forum talking so positively about teen pregnancy.
No one is doing any such thing. There is much that is positive to say about not killing a child that is the result of a teen pregnancy.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 3:13:30 PM
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I must say, I am astonished to see that the good Christians in Christian forum talking so positively about teen pregnancy.
When the young lady in question chooses to take responsiblity and keep the child rather than adopt the liberal view and kill it, then yeah, I think that's a positive thing...
Aha, I guess I am learning scripture all over again today
“fornication” is ok as long as you don’t do abortion.
No wonder being a born again Christian myself I stay away as far as I can from “ evangelical Christian”
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 3:14:39 PM
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Well, that is a surprise.
Like others have said: this is a very difficult time for the Palin family, and is not a matter for the public eye.
I really hope the media, and the comedians will respect the young Ms. Palin and will leave her alone and not make this more difficult for her than it already is. I hope that the Palin family will help Ms. Palin make decisions that are best for her and the child.
It would be extremely un-Christian to try and 'score' points off the misfortune of a young girl.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 3:18:53 PM
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I must say, I am astonished to see that the good Christians in Christian forum talking so positively about teen pregnancy
I don't see anyone here talking positively about a teenager making a mistake and getting pregnant. What I have seen is see people talking positively about parents supporting their children, even when mistakes are made and standing with them to help ensure the best possible outcome. I also see people talking positively about the fact that just because a candidate's child makes a poor decision, that does not mean they are unfit for public office.
Obama isn't done raising his daughters yet...his supporters and those picking apart Palin's daughter and making this a campaign issue would do well to remember that.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 3:23:41 PM
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Obama has shown judgement and class by quickly dropping this as a non-issue. Kudos to him. Now if the media will follow his lead.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 3:23:48 PM
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The issue I have with ANY of this is not the circumstances surrounding the pregnancy. It's a mistake and it has nothing to do with the parents at all. No, I have no problems with a mistake.
What I have a real issue with is the fact that were the situation reversed (and we have seen these type of situations reversed) those who are on the conservative side of the fence would be singing from the rafters about the lack of "family values" which brought about this tragedy.
On another thread I heard a poster mention that when the finger is pointed, 4 more are pointing right back at the one doing the pointing. All too often we see "conservatives" held up as the only "real" Christians, the only ones with real morals and values, the one defense against the godless heathen "liberal" whose Christianity MUST be in question. It's only when something like this comes into play that we get a chance to look at the flip side of the coin.
Are conservatives perfect?-not a chance. Are they closer to God because they are conservative?-I think this example shows quite nicely that THAT's some pretty faulty logic. Are liberals perfect?-not a chance. Is it impossible for them to be Christians?-It looks like they have as much chance to love God as any conservative ever did-they are subject to making mistakes too!
Perhaps some of all of the grace that is being extended to Mrs. Palin's family in this situation by conservatives on this board will also be extended to those who happen to disagree with their point of view as we continue forward to the culmination of this election.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 3:44:58 PM
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Mr. Obama has some very strong words about this story (or non-story as he would like it to be).
Good for Obama, it doesn't surprise me at all.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 3:51:07 PM
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Good for Obama, it doesn't surprise me at all.
If only his supporters were as classy as he is.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 4:05:40 PM
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There is an article about this in TIME today - it appears not to have been much of a secret.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 4:09:10 PM
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Aha, I guess I am learning scripture all over again today
“fornication” is ok as long as you don’t do abortion.
So I guess you would rather her fix one wrong act by committing another...such is the mind of the "Christian left"...
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 4:25:48 PM
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Palin's daughter is to be respected and even admired for not hiding her sin by giving the child away or aborting the child. This kid knew her sin was going to be made public.
Sex outside of marriage is sin. Without a doubt. This young lady most probably has repented of her sin. She plans on marrying the father. If God has forgiven her, I'd think we should do no less.
The Bible warns us about pride. Pride can be as innocuous as 'well my child would never.......'
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/1/2008 4:33:33 PM
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This thread is now reopened. This thread is not about Obama, except for how he responds to the information concerning Palin's daughter. This thread is not about other Obama threads, the way members treat each other, the way Obama is treated, etc.
Please stay on topic.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/2/2008 12:41:10 AM
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Bristol Palin made the decision on her own to keep the baby, McCain aides said.
But... John McCain and Sarah Palin don’t believe women have a right to choose. It’s odd for the campaign to highlight the fact that Bristol “made the decision,” and then push for policies that take away that agency.
If women shouldn’t be allowed to choose then why does McCain’s campaign think it’s important to emphasize her agency in this process? As I understand it, McCain should be totally indifferent to whether Bristol chose this course of action or was pressured into it by her mother. McCain’s view is that he should make the choice for her and for every other pregnant woman in the country.
Weird.
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