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Seatbelts on a plane... - 7/30/2008 12:38:18 PM   
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I am not a good flier by any means, so I very rarely get up and never take off my seatbelt unless i have to go to the restroom. On my last flight from Minneapolis to Seattle the ride was a bit bumpy and the seatbelt sighs were on. The lady sitting in front of me (window seat) needed to use the restroom. If you were sitting next to her would you get up or would you point out to her the the fasten seatbelt sign was illuminated and according to FAA regulations you must remain seated?

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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 7/30/2008 12:42:05 PM   
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I am not a good flier by any means, so I very rarely get up and never take off my seatbelt unless i have to go to the restroom. On my last flight from Minneapolis to Seattle the ride was a bit bumpy and the seatbelt sighs were on. The lady sitting in front of me (window seat) needed to use the restroom. If you were sitting next to her would you get up or would you point out to her the the fasten seatbelt sign was illuminated and according to FAA regulations you must remain seated?


MYOB is my position. I'm sure a flight attendant would handle that.

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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 7/30/2008 12:49:16 PM   
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I am not a good flier by any means, so I very rarely get up and never take off my seatbelt unless i have to go to the restroom. On my last flight from Minneapolis to Seattle the ride was a bit bumpy and the seatbelt sighs were on. The lady sitting in front of me (window seat) needed to use the restroom. If you were sitting next to her would you get up or would you point out to her the the fasten seatbelt sign was illuminated and according to FAA regulations you must remain seated?


MYOB is my position. I'm sure a flight attendant would handle that.

Seems to me MYOB is not an option.

If she is in a window seat next to you, if she needs to use the rest-room you may need to un-belt and get up in order to allow her to get out. If you get up you are putting yourself in jeopardy, considering the flight conditions. If you point out the seatblet sign, you are not MYOB.
Seems to me you either get up or you don't!
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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 7/30/2008 1:01:21 PM   
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MYOB is my position. I'm sure a flight attendant would handle that.


The question is would you get up? If she was sitting next to you?

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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 7/30/2008 1:20:19 PM   
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I would not get up considering the turbulence.
She would have my complete sympathy (whatever that is worth) but I would not risk my safety for her convenience.

Once the turbulence has subsided I would gladly get up for her.
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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 7/30/2008 3:47:43 PM   
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I would not get up considering the turbulence.
She would have my complete sympathy (whatever that is worth) but I would not risk my safety for her convenience.

Once the turbulence has subsided I would gladly get up for her.


I did not read the OP carefully. My bad. In that case, I'd instruct her to hit the "attendant" button, which would endanger the attendant having to get to the seat to talk with the individual. If the restroom seeking person refused to hit the button, I would. If the person crawled over me anyway, that would then bring the flight attendant into the picture.

If the person got snippy with me, I'd slip the nearest atendant a note saying that I think the his/her shoe was ticking.

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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 7/30/2008 4:14:27 PM   
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If the person got snippy with me, I'd slip the nearest atendant a note saying that I think the his/her shoe was ticking.


You may be joking, but just FYI...making a false statement like that is illegal, and even if you later claimed you genuinely thought you heard it, you could get into real trouble.
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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 7/30/2008 4:16:18 PM   
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Most flight I have been on recently required seat belts to remain fastened all the time. People are however permitted to go to the rest room unless the captain specifically tells everyone to remain seated. I would stand up and get out of the way so the person could go to the restroom.

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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 7/30/2008 4:18:32 PM   
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I am not a good flier by any means, so I very rarely get up and never take off my seatbelt unless i have to go to the restroom. On my last flight from Minneapolis to Seattle the ride was a bit bumpy and the seatbelt sighs were on. The lady sitting in front of me (window seat) needed to use the restroom. If you were sitting next to her would you get up or would you point out to her the the fasten seatbelt sign was illuminated and according to FAA regulations you must remain seated?


If you don't get up and allow her to get to the restroom, the attendant will come over and tell you to. The seat belt is illuminated during the flight, and the Captain tells you he's leaving it on because *if* you are seated, he'd prefer you to wear it. If the flight is experiencing so much turbulence that the crew feels it's unsafe for her or you to get up, they will tell you so. So, yes, I get up, and the attendant will make you get up if you refuse when asked nicely.

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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 7/30/2008 7:12:30 PM   
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Those of you who wouldn't get up must never have been in a situation where you hadto go bad. It is the most miserable feeling. If she has to go, she has to go. Maybe she has a physical condition. Either way, it is her decision to take the risk in turbulent conditions. As far as getting up for her to get out, OF COURSE. The few minutes you would be unbuckled and out of your seat are rather minimal. The chance of you being hurt during the extremely short period of time is extremely low.

It's hard to believe this would even be a question.
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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 7/30/2008 8:31:01 PM   
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It's hard to believe this would even be a question.


I agree. I would get up without even thinking about it. I'd probably feel more inconvenienced that I have to stand up than be worried about my safety for 30 seconds.
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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 7/30/2008 8:52:00 PM   
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LOL! My wife was asking so I thought I would ask.

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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 7/31/2008 10:40:31 AM   
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If the person got snippy with me, I'd slip the nearest atendant a note saying that I think the his/her shoe was ticking.


You may be joking, but just FYI...making a false statement like that is illegal, and even if you later claimed you genuinely thought you heard it, you could get into real trouble.


Darn. Guess I'd just let the person out and the attendants can manage the situation per their training.

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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 7/31/2008 4:47:24 PM   
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I would most certainly get up for the other person. I would think it would be rude not to get up. It doesn't take that long to unbuckle, move out of her way, then sit back down and buckle up again. I haven't flown in severe turbulance but I have been on a few bumpy flights and I would still get up so someone could use the restroom.
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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 8/3/2008 12:19:34 PM   
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Hmmm... I think the actual rule for the signs as stated by attendants on every flight I've been on is that your seatbelt should be on when seated. I've never been on a flight where they didn't allow people to go to the bathroom even in turbulence. Then again, maybe you were in extreme turbulence where the plane can drop a 40 feet all of the sudden?

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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 8/3/2008 4:12:12 PM   
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If the seatbelt sign is on, then I would tell them to call a flight attendant, crawl over, or hold it.

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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 8/3/2008 4:28:03 PM   
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It is a federal law that crew member instructions and sinage must be followed. HOWEVER, crew member instructions sometimes do not follow the sinage... and this is OFTEN the case.

For the last several years, I have flown 3-6 times a year, and every time, as we reach the Rockies, or any other mountain range, I hear the following...

"We have reached an area where turbulance is expected. We are illuminating the seat belt signs and ask that you remain seated with your seatbelt fastened unless it is 'absolutely necessary' to move about the cabin. If you do get out of your seat, please hold onto the seatbacks as you walk about."

The sign is on, but legally, you have the OK to use the restroom. To make the other person wait, especially if you know nothing about the urgency of their need, is simply being unkind. Only on ascent, descent, and captain's orders is it 100% seated, no exception.

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I am not a good flier by any means, so I very rarely get up and never take off my seatbelt unless i have to go to the restroom. On my last flight from Minneapolis to Seattle the ride was a bit bumpy and the seatbelt sighs were on. The lady sitting in front of me (window seat) needed to use the restroom. If you were sitting next to her would you get up or would you point out to her the the fasten seatbelt sign was illuminated and according to FAA regulations you must remain seated?


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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 8/3/2008 4:41:31 PM   
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If the person got snippy with me, I'd slip the nearest atendant a note saying that I think the his/her shoe was ticking.

You may be joking, but just FYI...making a false statement like that is illegal, and even if you later claimed you genuinely thought you heard it, you could get into real trouble.


Yup, as in go to a jail in Cuba type trouble. Well, maybe not Cuba, but definitely jail.

But if the turbulence was severe, then I would not get up. If it wasn't that bad, and I was flying alone (like my kids weren't with me), then I'd get up. I've flown quite a lot, and only once was the turbulence bad enough that I would've been thrown upwards if I'd not been seatbelted. And trust me, nobody gets up to go to the bathroom when it's that bad.

Actually, on that particular flight, there were a bunch of 17 and 18 year old little boys who were headed off for Basic Training with the army. They were all from small town Idaho and most of them had never been on a plane before in their lives. I've never seen more scared children trying to act so brave.

My grandmother was on a plane where they hit sudden turbulence and the plane dropped severely. A number of people were thrown smack up against the ceiling, breaking necks and backs. So... always a good idea to wear your seatbelt when you're sitting.

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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 8/4/2008 8:44:40 AM   
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I am not a good flier by any means, so I very rarely get up and never take off my seatbelt unless i have to go to the restroom. On my last flight from Minneapolis to Seattle the ride was a bit bumpy and the seatbelt sighs were on. The lady sitting in front of me (window seat) needed to use the restroom. If you were sitting next to her would you get up or would you point out to her the the fasten seatbelt sign was illuminated and according to FAA regulations you must remain seated?


How bumpy is "a bit bumpy"? Is it like hitting a couple potholes or are people smacking their heads on the windows and having carry-on luggage fly around the cabin? If it's the former, yes. (and if you gave me that reply, I might have a witty retort) If it's the latter - they'd probably hold it on their own.

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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 8/4/2008 7:23:26 PM   
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I would also think if someone was wanting to use the restroom in severe turbulance then that would mean that person really needed to use the restroom.
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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 8/15/2008 12:05:01 AM   
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I believe that if I really needed to go to the rest room and some jerk on the aisle woudn't have the common courtesy to get out of the way when asked nicely that I would have to climb over their sorry self...

...or perhaps stand over them and fake some retching noises until they showed some manners.

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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 8/15/2008 12:17:12 AM   
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I'm a stickle about following rules . . . to the inth degree, sometimes.

However, I cannot imagine not getting up to let someone out to go to the bathroom. That seems very unkind to me.

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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 8/15/2008 12:38:42 AM   
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I'm a stickle about following rules . . . to the inth degree, sometimes.

However, I cannot imagine not getting up to let someone out to go to the bathroom. That seems very unkind to me.


The rule is: Don't do anything to stop me from getting to the bathroom.

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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 8/15/2008 12:42:35 AM   
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I would never dream of it, Counsellor.







btw, in my previous post, I meant to say I was a stickler; not a stickle; which I hope isn't short for stickleback, but if it is, I'm still not one.

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RE: Seatbelts on a plane... - 8/20/2008 11:16:06 PM   
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I guess we killed this thread, CTL.

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