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What is a "Born-Again" Christian - 10/15/2008 11:46:34 PM
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campbe33
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I remember the movement being big at the beginning of "1980's". Can anyone tell how a Christian becomes born-again? I know we become new creatures when we accept Jesus as our Saviour, but where does being born again fit into. I just consider myself a Christian. I've never read about anybody being called a born-again christian in the bible.
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RE: What is a "Born-Again" Christian - 10/15/2008 11:59:55 PM
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Check out John 3
1Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council. 2He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."
3In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."
4"How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!"
5Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You must be born again.' 8The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."
9"How can this be?" Nicodemus asked.
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RE: What is a "Born-Again" Christian - 10/16/2008 12:14:44 AM
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When I read your post, I was always raised to believe born again..means that you have received forgiveness of your sings, turned from you evil ways and accepted Jesus as your savior. You die to the flesh that you may be reborn in the spirit and Christ. I am reminded of this verse:
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!
2 Corinthians 5:17 NIV
Hope this helps
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RE: What is a "Born-Again" Christian - 10/16/2008 1:07:51 AM
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campbe33
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When I read your post, I was always raised to believe born again..means that you have received forgiveness of your sings, turned from you evil ways and accepted Jesus as your savior
Wouldn't that just make me a Christian?
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RE: What is a "Born-Again" Christian - 10/16/2008 3:04:19 AM
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I remember the movement being big at the beginning of "1980's". Can anyone tell how a Christian becomes born-again? I know we become new creatures when we accept Jesus as our Savior, but where does being born again fit into. I just consider myself a Christian. I've never read about anybody being called a born-again christian in the bible.
If you are a Christian meaning you have placed faith in Jesus Christ making him Lord and Savior over your life you are born-again. There is no other type of Christian except a born again one.
John 3:3
3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
1 Peter 1:22-25
22 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart, 23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever, 24 because “ All flesh is as grass, And all the glory of man[ as the flower of the grass. The grass withers, And its flower falls away, 25 But the word of the LORD endures forever.”
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RE: What is a "Born-Again" Christian - 10/16/2008 7:54:20 AM
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You are not a born again christian.
Christians..are born again.
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RE: What is a "Born-Again" Christian - 10/16/2008 9:02:53 AM
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I remember the movement being big at the beginning of "1980's". Can anyone tell how a Christian becomes born-again? I know we become new creatures when we accept Jesus as our Saviour, but where does being born again fit into. I just consider myself a Christian. I've never read about anybody being called a born-again christian in the bible.
Every Christian, if they are indeed a Christian, is born again.
I suppose the "born-again" Christian (sort of like saying liquid water) was to seperate those who claimed to be Christian but did not believe in being born again.
You very well may be born again and not even realize it because you were unaware of the terminology us by Jesus and His teaching on it. If you have put your trust in Christ, then you have been born again. Jesus only spoke of being born again once. It wasn't something He brought up all the time, and it wasn't something that the apostles brought up every time they gave the Good News to people. So, don't let anyone try and tell you that because you lacked knowledge regarding the "born again" teaching Jesus gave us, you aren't saved. That is a lie and it isn't true. If you have placed your hope and trust in Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, then you have been born again, just as Jesus said must happen if we are to enter heaven. If you have done this, then now you know you are born again :). If you haven't done this (placed your hope and trust in Christ for the forgiveness of sin), then you aren't born again... and you aren't a Christian. They go hand in hand.
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John 3:1-8
Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council. 2He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."
In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."
"How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!"
Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You must be born again.' The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."
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Also make note that Jesus says we must be born of water and of spirit in order to see the Kingdom of God. Please understand that "water" is not referring to water baptism... but later on Jesus says that FLESH GIVES BIRTH TO FLESH and SPIRIT GIVES BIRTH TO SPIRIT. The "born of water" that Jesus tells us is a requirement to see heaven, is our physical birth--we must be born (or conceived) into this world (born of water), and we must be born again (of God's Spirit) in order to see the Kingdom of God.
... hope that helps :).
GRACE to you :)
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RE: What is a "Born-Again" Christian - 10/16/2008 10:01:54 AM
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One must be born-again to be a Christian. They are the samething. When become Christians we are birthed into God's family (born-again) as peter stated in
1 Pet 2:24 who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed.
We are born of corruptible seed (Adam) but when we are born again we are born of Incorruptible seed (Christ)
1 Pet 1:23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever,
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Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
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RE: What is a "Born-Again" Christian - 10/16/2008 10:21:53 AM
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The term "born again Christian" is redundancy. That is what is being said. I think the expression came up because there were some Christians wanting to distinguish themselves from some claiming to be Christians but who were not. I know some individuals who have claimed to be "Christian" because they accepted the teachings of Jesus as being good to live by. They recognized Him as a good teacher. However, they had not recognized Him as Lord and Savior.
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RE: What is a "Born-Again" Christian - 10/16/2008 10:49:30 AM
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You are not a born again christian.
Christians..are born again.
Exactly.
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RE: What is a "Born-Again" Christian - 10/16/2008 11:29:31 AM
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 hey, and god bless you. when you except god into your life you become a new person old things are thrown away, you are new in christ,
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RE: What is a "Born-Again" Christian - 10/16/2008 1:23:36 PM
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d4nnyb0y02
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You are not a born again christian.
Christians..are born again.
Hold up here :).
How can you say that this person is not born again? If that is what you're saying, I regret to inform you that you are very wrong. Agreed, all Chrsitians are born again... they are interchangable. We are either saved or we are not. If we are saved we are born again. If we are Christians, we are born again. However, for you to say that Campbe33 is not saved because they are unfamiliar w/ the term "born again" is wrong. Just because someone is not familiar w/ the term "born again", which Jesus spoke of one time, that means that he or she isn't born again if they are unfamiliar w/ the terminology "born again"? No no, I don't think so. Very wrong.
Knowledge of everything Jesus ever spoke of is not a requirement for being saved. What is, however, is that we have believed on Jesus for our salvation. If Campbe33 or anyone else has belived on Jesus for salvation, even though he or she is not familiar w/ Jesus' teaching that he or she is "born again", they are born again regardless of being aware of the teaching or not... or understanding it.
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RE: What is a "Born-Again" Christian - 10/16/2008 1:53:08 PM
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How can you say that this person is not born again? If that is what you're saying, I regret to inform you that you are very wrong. Agreed, all Chrsitians are born again... they are interchangable. We are either saved or we are not. If we are saved we are born again. If we are Christians, we are born again. However, for you to say that Campbe33 is not saved because they are unfamiliar w/ the term "born again" is wrong. Just because someone is not familiar w/ the term "born again", which Jesus spoke of one time, that means that he or she isn't born again if they are unfamiliar w/ the terminology "born again"? No no, I don't think so. Very wrong.
For what it's worth (and I may be wrong), I didn't interpret SonInMe's post as meaning that he thought the OP was not a Christian (he may or may not think that, but I don't think he was addressing it here). I interpreted it to mean that he thought the term "born again Christian" was redundant because Christians, by definition, are born again.
I agree with what others have said on why the "born again Christian" terminology is used. It is redundant, but it helps cut down on confusion. There are many who consider themselves Christians because their parents were, or because they attend church, but they have never actually accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior.
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RE: What is a "Born-Again" Christian - 10/16/2008 2:34:20 PM
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d4nnyb0y02
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How can you say that this person is not born again? If that is what you're saying, I regret to inform you that you are very wrong. Agreed, all Chrsitians are born again... they are interchangable. We are either saved or we are not. If we are saved we are born again. If we are Christians, we are born again. However, for you to say that Campbe33 is not saved because they are unfamiliar w/ the term "born again" is wrong. Just because someone is not familiar w/ the term "born again", which Jesus spoke of one time, that means that he or she isn't born again if they are unfamiliar w/ the terminology "born again"? No no, I don't think so. Very wrong.
For what it's worth (and I may be wrong), I didn't interpret SonInMe's post as meaning that he thought the OP was not a Christian (he may or may not think that, but I don't think he was addressing it here). I interpreted it to mean that he thought the term "born again Christian" was redundant because Christians, by definition, are born again.
You may be right. If that's the case, I apologize, but I think we should choose words more carefully. "You are not a born again Christian," period, doesn't sound right. :)
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RE: What is a "Born-Again" Christian - 10/16/2008 3:35:34 PM
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You may be right. If that's the case, I apologize, but I think we should choose words more carefully. "You are not a born again Christian," period, doesn't sound right. :)
SonInMe1 did choose carefully. Not every one can understand the simplicity of born-again and Christian.
Consider that the definition of a "born-again Christian" could be interpreted, if possible, as a back-slidden Christian who rededicated his life to Christ and hence, is a born-again Christian.
However, we all understand that one cannot be a "Christian" unless he is born again.
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RE: What is a "Born-Again" Christian - 10/16/2008 4:11:58 PM
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campbe33
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Thank you everyone for your responses. Thank you for standing up for me Dannyboy, but I interperted SonInMe's response the same as Ames01.
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