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What is the reason for Conformation Names?? - 8/5/2008 6:12:08 AM
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Sarrah930
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And why are Catholics the only ones that give themselves them? I am baptist, but would like to give myself one. Could I do this in and be in line with my "denomination?"
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RE: What is the reason for Conformation Names?? - 8/5/2008 8:11:14 AM
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Dona Nobis Pacem
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What you are referring to is confirmation, not conformation. In the sacrament of Confirmation, the Holy Spirit imparts spiritual strength and graces which confirm the faith a person receives in Baptism when they were cleansed from original sin. From the CCC quote:
ARTICLE 2 THE SACRAMENT OF CONFIRMATION 1285 Baptism, the Eucharist, and the sacrament of Confirmation together constitute the "sacraments of Christian initiation," whose unity must be safeguarded. It must be explained to the faithful that the reception of the sacrament of Confirmation is necessary for the completion of baptismal grace. For "by the sacrament of Confirmation, [the baptized] are more perfectly bound to the Church and are enriched with a special strength of the Holy Spirit. Hence they are, as true witnesses of Christ, more strictly obliged to spread and defend the faith by word and deed." Now as for choosing a name, most people would investigate some of the saints and take a name of someone they admire or aspire to be like. Here is some more info, click the link and go about halfway down the page for the full text. Choosing a Confirmation Name quote:
Choosing a Confirmation Name By Dennis C. Smolarski Liturgy Training Publications Liturgy 90, April 1999 ...........Taking a new name can be symbolic of a new stage in life, and we must remember that there is a biblical history of individuals whose names changed: Abram to Abraham, Jacob to Israel, Simon to Peter, and Saul to Paul. This precedent was one reason members of many religious orders chose “religious” names when pronouncing vows. But the celebration of confirmation is a time to reaffirm one’s baptism and thus should not be seen so much as a new stage of Christian life but as an opportunity to deepen the graces of baptism. Celebrating the sacrament of confirmation can be an opportunity for candidates to reflect on what baptism and union with Christ should mean in their lives. It can also be an occasion for the candidates to reflect on how they should live out their baptismal commitment in the future, imitating the holy men and women of previous ages............ Hope this helps. Peace, DNP
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RE: What is the reason for Conformation Names?? - 8/5/2008 10:25:07 AM
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DougHorton
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If you live in the USA, legally, you can change or add to your name. It may cost a court fee depending on your age and location. I'm not sure of the legal specifics, but it is done often. So... If you want to add a name to commemorate your conversion or baptism, it should be fine. There is nothing in Baptist doctrine that says you cannot. If you run into opposition, it is only local prejudice.
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RE: What is the reason for Conformation Names?? - 8/5/2008 5:48:02 PM
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DougHorton
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As I understand it, your name is not fixed until you are 18. So if my adopted son wants to change his name, he has 2 more years before it "sticks". So it would follow that the addition of a name at confirmation would not need legal intervention.
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RE: What is the reason for Conformation Names?? - 8/5/2008 11:33:07 PM
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Sarrah930
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Thank you very much Dona for the article, it was very helpful. Thank you to everyone else who gave advice as well.
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RE: What is the reason for Conformation Names?? - 8/5/2008 11:44:09 PM
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ORIGINAL: DougHorton As I understand it, your name is not fixed until you are 18. So if my adopted son wants to change his name, he has 2 more years before it "sticks". So it would follow that the addition of a name at confirmation would not need legal intervention. Not necessarily true. My 14 year old niece wants to change her last name (her mom got married, so she wants to change her last name to her dad's name). But to do so, she has to go through the courts. So she isn't going to get it done. It might be a state issue.
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RE: What is the reason for Conformation Names?? - 8/6/2008 3:20:51 AM
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well, at that point you are talking about the difference between a given name and a surname. At that point, you are looking at more than a nominal change into full adoption procedure. So while it is a slightly different bear, different states do deal with that kind of thing differently. Adam
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RE: What is the reason for Conformation Names?? - 8/6/2008 11:50:37 AM
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DougHorton
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Yes, I admit I don't know all of the ins and outs. I only know it is possible.
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RE: What is the reason for Conformation Names?? - 8/6/2008 2:59:58 PM
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We'll all get a "new name" at the Resurrection. Is that a "confirmation" name? lol.
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RE: What is the reason for Conformation Names?? - 8/9/2008 3:16:57 AM
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I_Walk_Alone
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As a Catholic, I would constantly wonder why we had to choose a confirmation name for any other reason besides admiration for the character. I stll don't understand the full reason for it and it has been 13 years since I was confirmed, I picked the archangel Gabriel.
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RE: What is the reason for Conformation Names?? - 8/10/2008 1:57:57 AM
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Covaan_Meshuga
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In the Jewish tradition, at bar or bat mitzvah, usually, the child's name at the time is confirmed, until it may be changed by circumstances, but the name is not at issue at the b mitzvah. I had already legally changed my name long, long before my bat mitzvah, which was done as a middle aged adult, so at my bat mitzvah, my name was confirmed by its being used when I was called to Torah. I'd had my first name changed in California and my second name changed in Washington. In California, the name change was free and it became my legal name after I had used it consistently for a year. In Washington, I had to go to court and pay legal fees to change it, although I did not need a lawyer. I just had to go before a judge.
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