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When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 5/21/2008 5:08:15 PM
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DenimDiva
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I'm going to use CSI as an example, but it's not the only show that I'm talking about. I'm talking about television shows in general.
When CSI runs on it's original channel, AFAIK it runs in a later time slot because of the graphic content. There is a lot of stuff on CSI that should not be viewed by children. Definitely not a family show at all.
However, Spike runs it at 6 p.m. I think I've even seen it pop up at earlier times like 3 p.m. on some channels.
Another example is Married, With Children. It ran on FOX at 9 p.m. and in syndication you can watch it in the afternoons or early evenings.
It's still the same show, same content. Why is it now OK to run at an earlier hour just because it's a different channel?
This doesn't make sense to me.
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 5/22/2008 8:46:31 AM
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The "fast reply" is that cable-only channels don't follow the same rules as the broadcast channels.
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 5/22/2008 11:23:50 AM
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DenimDiva
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Do they not follow them because they don't have to or is there some other benefit to not following the rules?
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 5/22/2008 11:27:12 AM
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Most of the rules are written to cover over the air broadcasts. Cable networks aren't bound by them. Some of the networks abide by the family time rules, others ignore them.
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 5/26/2008 3:56:47 PM
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Most of the rules are written to cover over the air broadcasts. Cable networks aren't bound by them. Some of the networks abide by the family time rules, others ignore them.
I wonder how most families feel about this?
These are shows that I'd normally not watch, so it's not something that I have ever paid attention too. However, my sister watches them and so does my BIL (on different tvs) and they are constantly shooing their daughters (10 & 8)out of the room because of the content of the shows.
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 5/27/2008 4:08:18 PM
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I wonder how most families feel about this? Most families probably aren't even aware there are rules.
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 5/27/2008 4:24:13 PM
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Most of the rules are written to cover over the air broadcasts. Cable networks aren't bound by them. Some of the networks abide by the family time rules, others ignore them.
I wonder how most families feel about this?
These are shows that I'd normally not watch, so it's not something that I have ever paid attention too. However, my sister watches them and so does my BIL (on different tvs) and they are constantly shooing their daughters (10 & 8)out of the room because of the content of the shows.
I think they need a DVR (if not better judgment).
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 5/27/2008 4:36:41 PM
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My children now are in their middle to upper teens but when they were younger, I used the blocking function on my TV's to keep them from watching certain programs. I could watch them by putting in the code but my kids couldn't. That way, shows such as Married With Children and others could not be accessed without the code. Unless you have a TV that is more than 10 to 15 years old, you should be able to lock out programs you don't want children to see. Most TV's allow you to block all programs that have a certain rating or content. For example, you can block something that is rated Mature or contains sexual content or violence.
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 5/27/2008 4:39:21 PM
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I have noticed that when i watch shows like CSI or L&O that are broadcast during the day sometimes they bleep over (actually just silence out) some words.
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 5/27/2008 5:03:10 PM
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That may be, but they don't remove the scenes with the dead bodies.
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 5/28/2008 11:42:05 AM
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My children now are in their middle to upper teens but when they were younger, I used the blocking function on my TV's to keep them from watching certain programs. I could watch them by putting in the code but my kids couldn't. That way, shows such as Married With Children and others could not be accessed without the code. Unless you have a TV that is more than 10 to 15 years old, you should be able to lock out programs you don't want children to see. Most TV's allow you to block all programs that have a certain rating or content. For example, you can block something that is rated Mature or contains sexual content or violence.
Yes, this is a great feature...if it's not on the TV, check your cable box. However, sometimes it's not accurate and that's very frustrating. We have Verizon FIOS and they plop a TV-MA on the Music Choice Alternative Rock station (for those who don't know, Music Choice is like radio over cable. No videos, just pictures of the artists and titles of the songs while the songs are playing). My almost 19 yo would like to listen to this station (the times that I have listened to it, I haven't heard anything bad lyric-wise).
I can either block by rating OR by channel. I can't simply block everything that has been rated TV-MA EXCEPT this music station. Or, I can give her the blocking code, which sort of defeats the purpose of blocking TV-MA.
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 5/29/2008 9:56:41 AM
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My parents solved this issue by not having cable at all  We had an antenna that picked up the main stations (ABC, CBS, and NBC) and that was it. I always thought I was missing out growing up because I didn't get to watch music videos and movie marathons like my friends, but now that I'm grown, I'm glad they made that choice. Because of it, we spent a lot more time outside and doing other things besides sitting in front of the good ol' boob tube 
we don't have ANY cable/satellite right now.....never have.....
it has more to do with simply not having the time available to watch TV (enough to justify the outrageous monthly cost), than it is with "content" issues.....
Iam not going to pay for something MONTHLY that we aren't going to use much....plus, since we live in a large urban area, we get plenty of "broadcast" stations for those times when we do want to watch something....
though, there are several cable channels I would love to be able to watch.....perhaps one day I might be tempted enough.....we'll see....would LOVE the opportunity to get "ala carte" channels......
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 5/29/2008 11:07:50 AM
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I would love to be without cable!! There are usually a minimum of two of them on, even in the middle of the night.
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Iam not going to pay for something MONTHLY that we aren't going to use much....plus, since we live in a large urban area, we get plenty of "broadcast" stations for those times when we do want to watch something....
What are you going to do in Feb 2009?
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 5/30/2008 12:36:56 PM
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The rules only apply to over-the-air broadcast channels because they are free. If you choose to pay for television, the burden falls on you to police what airs in your home. (Because you're essentially "inviting in" these other channels.)
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 5/30/2008 3:08:56 PM
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I don't think it's a cable/sattelllite only phenomenon! Our local NBC channel now plays L&O:CI at 1pm on weekdays. Something else used to be on then (ivillage or something like that), but it got cancelled. Now they play repeats of L&O & I don't think any language or content is omitted.
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What are you going to do in Feb 2009? This question wasn't directed at me, but we have digital ready TVs, so we don't have to worry about it. In fact, we watch almost all digital channels now. Our ABC affiliate doesn't have a strong enough signal for us to pick up digital. You can still use an antenna for the digital signal too. IF we didn't have newer TVs, we also have a converter box to pick up the digital (we used to have an analog only TV in our bedroom). It's actually a really easy fix & the quality is LEAPS & BOUNDS better!
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 5/30/2008 7:03:14 PM
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I don't think it's a cable/sattelllite only phenomenon! Our local NBC channel now plays L&O:CI at 1pm on weekdays. Something else used to be on then (ivillage or something like that), but it got cancelled. Now they play repeats of L&O & I don't think any language or content is omitted.
While the rules are there, any affiliate is free to do anything they want until someone complains. Same with radio.
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 5/30/2008 8:10:33 PM
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DenimDiva
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I don't think it's a cable/sattelllite only phenomenon! Our local NBC channel now plays L&O:CI at 1pm on weekdays. Something else used to be on then (ivillage or something like that), but it got cancelled. Now they play repeats of L&O & I don't think any language or content is omitted.
While the rules are there, any affiliate is free to do anything they want until someone complains. Same with radio.
There are local channels that you can pick up on an antenna that will show shows like CSI in the middle of the afternoon.
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 6/16/2008 8:01:47 AM
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Most of the rules are written to cover over the air broadcasts. Cable networks aren't bound by them. Some of the networks abide by the family time rules, others ignore them.
I wonder how most families feel about this?
These are shows that I'd normally not watch, so it's not something that I have ever paid attention too. However, my sister watches them and so does my BIL (on different tvs) and they are constantly shooing their daughters (10 & 8)out of the room because of the content of the shows.
I think they need a DVR (if not better judgment).
Not a very good role model for the kids. When our kids were little, if they couldn't watch a show, WE didn't watch it!
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 6/17/2008 5:19:30 AM
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I grew up without much of a family, so I was allowed to watch anything I want. I was one of the lucky ones, I suppose...it didn't really affect me. Then again, there were too many other much more serious things happening that had desensitized me as a child to whatever I could view on television. Back to the OP.
If a family is worried about what their small children or early teens are watching, they should definitely have Spike readily blocked. I still watch whatever I feel comfortable with, but that channel is garbage to me. In the day, they show CSI and whatever car chase disaster show. Then at night, garbage movies like the remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre, or UFC. Not that I see much wrong with UFC, other than it being a little, uh...male friendly.
Married With Children comes on FX, I believe. Which also plays King of the Hill, Malcolm in the Middle, and That 70's Show in the daytime. Not the best of channels for small children also, I suppose.
As far as shows like Married With Children...these shows were controversial when they were originally aired, but I suppose they're considered small fries in comparison to the stuff that's aired these days. That leading to cable channels airing them in the day with no issue. Another one that can be listed is Roseanne, which is aired on most network channels in the mornings. It may have claimed to be an unconventional family show, but it certainly dealt with mature themes occasionally...such as birth control for their teen daughter and in one episode, self-gratification. 
There are alternatives...Touched by an Angel and Seventh Heaven come on Hallmark in the day. If you can stomach them. Muahaha. Touched by an Angel is hilarious. Ah yeah, then there's Ion as well. There's a lot of older sitcoms on there. Like Mama's Family. And they've semi-recently started playing the late 70's show, Alice. The lady who frequently says, "Kiss my grits." I caught an episode of that...enough said. You still have TV Land too, I guess. Though they've been playing Just Shoot Me in the day. And Mad About You. Yeah, cable television's going down the drain. Fast. Can you tell I'm a recluse?
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RE: When TV Shows Go from Nets to Other Channels???? - 6/17/2008 11:30:17 AM
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Ion doesn't come on very much for us. I've seen Alice, Mama's Family and Quantum Leap on there a few times.
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