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To Circ or Not To Circ
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| We did circumcise |
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| We will circumcise |
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| We didn't circumcise |
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| We won't circumcise |
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| We are split on our decision |
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| We have not even talked about it.... |
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| What is circumcision? |
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| Did circ and regret it... |
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| didn't circ and regret it... |
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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 4/27/2006 9:36:20 PM
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dustinsdreamer
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That is the sought after end result, eh? That is what we are striving toward in our family.
Yep, yep! 
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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 4/27/2006 9:43:38 PM
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smootches2uall
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Those of you that have said you've seen how many men "had" to have it done later in life ..... I wonder how many of those men truly "had" to have it done. I wonder how many of them chose to have it done, and how many of them had it done for medical necessity. The research I've found says that those numbers that have it done out of medical necessity later in life are very small. I not only wonder that, but also how many of those men had to have it done because of directives from uninformed pediatricians to the parents about the 'right way' to clean an uncirced male. Face it, it has not been a popular choice here in the US until recently and the US is sadly lacking in correct information (until recently) of how to take care of it.
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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 4/27/2006 9:52:49 PM
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scbusf
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I not only wonder that, but also how many of those men had to have it done because of directives from uninformed pediatricians to the parents about the 'right way' to clean an uncirced male. Face it, it has not been a popular choice here in the US until recently and the US is sadly lacking in correct information (until recently) of how to take care of it.
Yeah, that's the other information I've found...... that some later ones are because there has been damage done by that incorrect information.
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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 4/27/2006 10:09:42 PM
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nikki4th
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Might add a "did and regret it" response.
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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 4/28/2006 7:01:50 AM
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SarahsDaughter
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A litte side note. Circumcisions don't have to be done by conventional cutting anymore. Doctors now tend to use a tiny plastic bell attached to the skin that allows the skin to drop off in a few days or so without the baby having to be cut and without the pain and bleeding. (Of course, if it's for religious reasons where the actual 'cutting' is all part of why you're doing it, then the bell method would defeat the purpose.)
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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 4/28/2006 7:28:13 AM
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Sunnymom
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I am done having kids (knock on wood), but I have three boys- two were circumcised, and the youngest is not.
The first two were circumcised because of our doctor's advice, and the third was not because of our doctor's advice.
 Yeah, ain't that peachy.
There are so many emotional knee-jerk ideas about circumcision, even in the medical community. We have had several pediatricians (because we moved alot) and none of them agreed totally on the pros and cons of circumcision.  They all bring their personal feelings and preferences to the discussion- when all I wanted was an objective medical opinion, thank you very much.
You would not believe some of the discussions I had with folks who supposedly went to medical school.  I got the best information and advice from a lactation consultant, of all people.
I agree with smootches- that there is no medical necessity for circumcision, it is a preferential thing, but everyone has to do what they are comfortable with. The best thing to do is to research the literature, and not listen too much to opinion and anecdotal evidence for or against.
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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 4/28/2006 10:18:14 AM
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Georgia-Peach
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What are the problems that can develop later that would warrant having a circumcision later in life?
Chronic infections most likely.
My mom had a little boy in her class who at the age of 4 had to have a circumcision due to chronic infections. So there are times when it ends up being medically necessary.
When I went home to visit my sister and nephew it was the weekend he was having his circumcision. The did give him a anthestic (sp?) so he didn't feel it and the only time he fussed was for a few hours right after and during diaper changes when they had to do the whole vaseline thing to it. He had it done the old fashion way while my cousin's baby had the "bell" thing that makes the skin fall off and I have decided I would prefer the old fashion way. If we have a son we will be having it done so that 1) like some mentioned he won't wonder why he looks different than daddy 2) I don't want a chronic infection later in life make it medically necessary and something they will remember.
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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 4/28/2006 10:20:27 AM
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gratefulforgrace
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As I said before, I'm pretty sure my husband will be making the final decision about circumcision if we have a boy. I have been giving him information and I have been pretty clear about my feelings about it. I really just want him to make an informed decision about it. Anyway, I think the thing that bothers me most about my husband's approach is that his current reason for wanting to circumcise if we have a boy is "that's just the thing to do." That seems like the worst possible reason to do something like this. Knocking women unconcious and strapping them to stainless steel tables used to be "the thing to do" when it came to birthing and we both agree that those practices were wrong. So, the accepted "thing to do" just isn't a good reason to do something.
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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 4/28/2006 10:44:01 AM
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smootches2uall
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Anyway, I think the thing that bothers me most about my husband's approach is that his current reason for wanting to circumcise if we have a boy is "that's just the thing to do." That seems like the worst possible reason to do something like this. Knocking women unconcious and strapping them to stainless steel tables used to be "the thing to do" when it came to birthing and we both agree that those practices were wrong. So, the accepted "thing to do" just isn't a good reason to do something. I completely agree. That doesn't seem to be an acceptable reason to me either.
Manda, I agree. I hope and pray my dh decides to leave our son intact, as he is the final say in our relationship too, but I just cannot see for our family any reason to modify what God has made perfectly fine. I mean, if it aint broke, why fix it? Eh?
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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 4/28/2006 11:30:56 AM
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manda59
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ORIGINAL: smootches2uall
Manda, I agree. I hope and pray my dh decides to leave our son intact, as he is the final say in our relationship too, but I just cannot see for our family any reason to modify what God has made perfectly fine. I mean, if it aint broke, why fix it? Eh?
It isn't actually IMO a big deal to teach one's son how to clean and take care of his penis.
Some instructions here:-
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An uncircumcised penis is easy to keep clean and requires no special care:
- Keep your baby’s penis clean by gently washing the area during his bath. Do not try to pull back the foreskin. Usually, it is not fully retractable until a boy is 3 to 5 years old, or even until after puberty. Never force it.
- When your son is old enough, teach him to keep his penis clean as you’re teaching him how to keep the rest of his body clean.
- When the foreskin separates, skin cells will be shed and new ones will develop to replace them. These dead skin cells will work their way down the penis through the tip of the foreskin and may look like white, cheesy lumps. These are called smegma. If you see them under the skin, you don’t need to force them out. Just wipe them away once they come out.
- When the foreskin is fully retractable, teach your son to wash underneath it each day.
That's from a Canadian website HERE
I found these figures interesting too:-
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Of every 1,000 boys who are circumcised:
* 20 to 30 will have a surgical complication, such as too much bleeding or infection in the area.
*2 to 3 will have a more serious complication that needs more treatment. Examples include having too much skin removed or more serious bleeding.
* 2 will be admitted to hospital for a urinary tract infection (UTI) before they are one year old.
*About 10 babies may need to have the circumcision done again because of a poor result.
In rare cases, pain relief methods and medicines can cause side effects and complications. You should talk to your baby’s doctor about the possible risks.
Of every 1,000 boys who are *not* circumcised:
*7 will be admitted to hospital for a UTI before they are one year old.
* 10 will have a circumcision later in life for medical reasons, such as a condition called phimosis. Phimosis is when the opening of the foreskin is scarred and narrow because of infections in the area that keep coming back. Older children who are circumcised may need a general anesthetic, and may have more complications than newborns.
Circumcision slightly lowers the risk of developing cancer of the penis in later life. However, this form of cancer is very rare. One of every one million men who are circumcised will develop cancer of the penis each year. By comparison, 3 of every one million men who are not circumcised will develop penile cancer each year.
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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 4/28/2006 1:20:28 PM
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PenelopePitstop
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What are the problems that can develop later that would warrant having a circumcision later in life?
Chronic infections most likely.
Most cases of men I know of are in the late 30s onwards and have a problem with the foreskin splitting or becoming tight during intimacy, some doctors prescribe a cream to soften the skin but others prefer to advise circumcision. My husband had the op, his brother had the cream. Both are OK now.
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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 4/28/2006 1:47:03 PM
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gratefulforgrace
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Does God's design really need to have an "improvement"/modification made?
This could apply to circumcision, as well. 
Not sure what you mean. I was referring to circumcision as the "improvement"/modification.
I'm guessing that she means that the practice of circumcision was God's design. If it was good enough for Him, it should be good enough for us!
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) and would rather our boys have it over and done with in infancy, so they can forget about it. 
