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RE: AIDS not limited to homosexual behavior - 4/20/2008 9:31:21 AM
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What is the result of sin...any sin?
Separation from God. The consequences are all the same for every sin. That makes all sin....the same.
Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is another way of saying disbelief. Obviously if you don't believe you will be condemned, its pretty simple.
I don't know the origins of aids. I don't think the origin was race specific....if its true aids came from monkeys....and these monkeys lived in Africa....then yes it would seem logical that Africans were responsible for the spread.
Not because of race but by plain old position. They were around the infected monkeys.
If aids came from walruses then artic people's would be the start.
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I don't know the origins of aids. I don't think the origin was race specific....if its true aids came from monkeys....and these monkeys lived in Africa....then yes it would seem logical that Africans were responsible for the spread.
Which part of Africa, Islamic sections???
You see its called germ warfare, has anyone ever considered that the Aids virus was introduced in the homosexual community for the intent to wipe them out??? And therefore if it spreads to the sexually immoral, then who cares, it has become big business,
One thing to remember Adolph Hitler chief advisor was Islamic, and in the concentration camps at his direction some pretty strange medical research was going on, whereby the testing of weird stuff was being preformed on the prisoners,
The governments of the world even to this day adopt that form of research,
For example cocaine in the 60’s was introduced in the poor black sections of America to see what the affects were.
Common sense dictates the Aids virus stemmed for Africa.
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That has Satan's signatures written all over them...and the world via the RCC once again is playing God and dictating who receives the blessing and the curse.
The current Pope…. For example reiterates this same doctrine, as was written by LINK
Especially in America for example,
When that proposal is broken down says…and we can see…..
That we are becoming a nation without a national or religious rights….. by the “”reorganization”” of peoples,(OF THE WORLD) without personal exceptions (Homosexuals…etc) in support of the worlds “economic” solution and is appropriate to him who is the common father??? and who loves all his children with equal affection;
...........That is the biggest bunch of BULL this side of the cross, and is as far from Biblical truth as one can get…..the only common father the world has is Satan!!
But there is a principal in the Bible called an eye for an eye and as we see this current Pope apologizing and trying to set straight all the homosexuality within the RCC clergy. ……Because God always exposes the guilty,
In like manner that example of the eye for an eye, speaks very loudly.
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RE: AIDS not limited to homosexual behavior - 4/20/2008 11:13:10 AM
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Aids virus was introduced in the homosexual community for the intent to wipe them out??? ..............
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RE: AIDS not limited to homosexual behavior - 4/20/2008 3:04:59 PM
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Aids virus was introduced in the homosexual community for the intent to wipe them out??? ..............
Hears the Twilight zone music playing.
Greetings,
You left out "has anyone ever considered that the"
Since the twilight zone was not available then, perhaps Flash Gordon would be better 
But if you have the soundtracks for the TZ, by all means....make a full pot of coffee also, its going to be a long day!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_human_experimentation
For example,
Typhus (Fleckfieber) experiments
From about December 1941 to about February 1945, experiments were conducted to investigate the effectiveness of spotted fever and other vaccines. [13]At Buchenwald, numerous healthy inmates were deliberately infected with typhus bacteria in order to keep the bacteria alive; over 90% of victims died.[20] Other healthy inmates were used to determine the effectiveness of different spotted fever vaccines and of various chemical substances. In the course of these experiments, 75% of the selected inmates were vaccinated with one of the vaccines or nourished with one of the chemical substances and, after a period of three to four weeks, were infected with spotted fever germs. The remaining 25% were infected without any previous protection in order to compare the effectiveness of the vaccines and the chemical substances. Hundreds of the subjects died. Experiments with yellow fever, smallpox, typhus, paratyphus A and B, cholera, and diphtheria were also conducted. Similar experiments with like results were conducted at Natzweiler.[21]
It’s no as far fetched as it seems, but where are all these records???
Since the countries of the world are now leaning to Islamic legalisms, perhaps we should read how they would handle this crisis in America,
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For example;
According to the International Lesbian and Gay Association ILGA there are at least seven countries today which still retain capital punishment for homosexuality: Afghanistan, Iran, Mauritania, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, and Yemen. The situation with regard to the United Arab Emirates (UAE) is unclear.
It’s pretty clear in this house….
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RE: AIDS not limited to homosexual behavior - 4/23/2008 6:18:05 PM
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Continuing from TBN thread Soxfan said:
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Greetings Adam. Please enlighten me as to where this is slander. If 90% of what appears on TBN is unbiblical and bordering on heresy, how is calling it The Blasphemer's Network slander?
To which I replied:
How do you arrive at 90%? If you haven't broken down what is said that is true or isn't true then you are committing slander. Can you show the rest of us where you came up with this number?
We'll see if TBN does the right thing or not. I guess if Judas fooled the 11 hand picked apostles of Christ that this guy pulling the wool over the eyes of the Crouches couldn't have been too difficult. ; )
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RE: AIDS not limited to homosexual behavior - 4/23/2008 6:30:01 PM
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Adolph Hitler chief advisor was Islamic
Which one of Goebbels, Himmler, Goering, Hess or Boorman was Islamic? Goering was a homosexual (or at best a transvestite).
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For example cocaine in the 60’s was introduced in the poor black sections of America to see what the affects were.
Cocaine use and its effects were already well known by the '60s. It was quite popular on both sides of the Atlantic in the 19th century and even Sherlock Holmes used it recreationally.
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It’s no as far fetched as it seems, but where are all these records???
The results were seized by the armies of whichever power liberated the facility that conducted the experiments or else they worked out a deal with those who conducted the experiements for their research. One way or another the liberator wanted the data from the experiments. This was the case with unit 731 after the Japanese surrendered and those guilty quietly got off the hook to boot.
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RE: AIDS not limited to homosexual behavior - 4/23/2008 6:47:23 PM
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Cocaine use and its effects were already well known by the '60s. It was quite popular on both sides of the Atlantic in the 19th century and even Sherlock Holmes used it recreationally.
Jeeeezzz, I hate to be the one to break this to you, but Sherlock Holmes was not a real person.
What in the world have you been smoking?
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RE: AIDS not limited to homosexual behavior - 4/23/2008 7:18:36 PM
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Cocaine use and its effects were already well known by the '60s. It was quite popular on both sides of the Atlantic in the 19th century and even Sherlock Holmes used it recreationally.
Jeeeezzz, I hate to be the one to break this to you, but Sherlock Holmes was not a real person.
What in the world have you been smoking?
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Greetings,
If he was doing cocaine, prehaps he evolved into DR Jekyll and MR Hyde! or was that Crack!....LOL!
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RE: AIDS not limited to homosexual behavior - 4/23/2008 8:17:46 PM
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What is the result of sin...any sin?
Seperation from God. The consequences are all the same for every sin. That makes all sin....the same.
A believer is never seperated from God...
Romons: 36-39
36. As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Some sins are greater than others...
A sin of “presumption” is greater than a sin committed “unwittingly,” because the former issues from an arrogant spirit, while the latter is done out of ignorance.
Matthew 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
John 19:11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.
Exodus 32:30 And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses said unto the people, Ye have sinned a great sin: and now I will go up unto the Lord; peradventure I shall make an atonement for your sin.
1 Timothy 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
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RE: Homosexuality in the News - 4/26/2008 9:42:19 PM
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Why do they have to be changed, or "cured". It's not an illness.
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RE: AIDS not limited to homosexual behavior - 4/26/2008 9:44:57 PM
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Cocaine use and its effects were already well known by the '60s. It was quite popular on both sides of the Atlantic in the 19th century and even Sherlock Holmes used it recreationally.
Jeeeezzz, I hate to be the one to break this to you, but Sherlock Holmes was not a real person.
What in the world have you been smoking?
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Homosexuality in the News - 4/26/2008 11:34:51 PM
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Human Rights ruling also mandates all managers and employees receive a pro-homosexuality "human rights training program"
By John-Henry Westen
TORONTO, April 25, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In what is being described as "another blow to religious liberty" in Canada, the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario has ordered a Christian organization to cease using an employment contract which has staff promise they will not engage in "homosexual relationships." Moreover, the ruling demands that the organization pay $23,000, plus two years wages and benefits to a woman who signed onto the contract and then entered a homosexual relationship and was subsequently dismissed.
In an April 15 ruling, released today, the Tribunal ruled against Christian Horizons, an Evangelical Christian Ministry that provides care and residential services to 1,400 developmentally disabled individuals with over 180 residential homes across Ontario, and 2,500 employees.
The ruling which was decided by a single adjudicator - Michael Gottheil - ruled further that all managers and employees receive a pro-homosexuality "human rights training program". Christian Horizons was also ordered to "develop and adopt an anti-discrimination and an anti-harassment policy" and "review of its employment policies, in consultation with the Commission" and report to the Commission on its progress, to ensure that such policies comply with the Code.
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RE: Homosexuality in the News - 4/27/2008 6:21:14 PM
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Human Rights ruling also mandates all managers and employees receive a pro-homosexuality "human rights training program"
By John-Henry Westen
TORONTO, April 25, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In what is being described as "another blow to religious liberty" in Canada, the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario has ordered a Christian organization to cease using an employment contract which has staff promise they will not engage in "homosexual relationships." Moreover, the ruling demands that the organization pay $23,000, plus two years wages and benefits to a woman who signed onto the contract and then entered a homosexual relationship and was subsequently dismissed.
In an April 15 ruling, released today, the Tribunal ruled against Christian Horizons, an Evangelical Christian Ministry that provides care and residential services to 1,400 developmentally disabled individuals with over 180 residential homes across Ontario, and 2,500 employees.
The ruling which was decided by a single adjudicator - Michael Gottheil - ruled further that all managers and employees receive a pro-homosexuality "human rights training program". Christian Horizons was also ordered to "develop and adopt an anti-discrimination and an anti-harassment policy" and "review of its employment policies, in consultation with the Commission" and report to the Commission on its progress, to ensure that such policies comply with the Code.
I do think anti-discrimination policies and anti-harassment policies are reasonable in secular workplaces. However, there should be some sort of exemption for religious organizations. I am not saying that I think you should get a special right to harass people because you are religious, but I think dictating what a religious organization does regarding homosexuals, ie demanding they have to go against their beliefs and hire homosexuals or anything of that nature is too far. I am a firm believer of seperation of church and state. I think church should keep themselves out of our government and I think the government should return the favour. I apologize if I am not making sense here. I am winding down from a 16 hour shift and I am tired.
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RE: Homosexuality in the News - 4/28/2008 12:57:40 AM
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Episcopal church sues deposed Calif. bishop over property
By AMANDA FEHD
The Associated Press
Friday, April 25, 2008; 9:36 PM
SAN FRANCISCO -- The Episcopal Diocese of San Joaquin has sued a deposed bishop, demanding he vacate his offices and turn over financial accounts for leading a secession last year prompted by the church's ordination of women and gays.
The diocese said in its lawsuit, filed Thursday in Fresno County Superior Court, that John-David Schofield breached his duties to the church.
National church leaders removed Schofield as the head of the Fresno-based diocese after he led parishioners to align themselves with the conservative Province of the Southern Cone, an Argentina-based member of the worldwide Anglican Communion.
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RE: Homosexuality in the News - 4/29/2008 1:05:32 AM
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Episcopal Church sues Binghamton parish
by Renee K. Gadoua
Sunday April 27, 2008, 9:10 PM
The Episcopal Diocese of Central New York has filed a lawsuit seeking the property of a Binghamton congregation that opposes the denomination's policy on homosexuality. It's the second such lawsuit filed by the diocese and among dozens of similar cases across the country as the Episcopal Church faces ongoing opposition from congregations that disapprove of the 2003 consecration of New Hampshire Bishop Gene Robinson. Robinson has publicly acknowledged being in a committed gay relationship.
In August, a settlement between the diocese and St. Andrew's Episcopal Church in Syracuse stipulated that the diocese would retain the building at 5013 S. Salina St. while the breakaway parish would be allowed to remain there up to a year.
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RE: Homosexuality in the News - 4/29/2008 1:10:31 AM
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Top evangelical theologian leaves Anglican Church of Canada
Published Saturday, April 26, 2008 12:36 PM by Douglas Todd
One of the world's most famous evangelical theologians quit the Anglican Church of Canada this week because he believes many of its bishops are "arguably heretical" for adhering to "poisonous liberalism."
James (J.I.) Packer, whom Time magazine recently named as one of the planet's 25 most influential evangelicals, said he hesitated before using the harsh terms to describe the Anglican bishops, but believed he must do so in the name of truth.
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RE: Homosexuality in the News - 4/29/2008 2:20:37 PM
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Top evangelical theologian leaves Anglican Church of Canada
Published Saturday, April 26, 2008 12:36 PM by Douglas Todd
One of the world's most famous evangelical theologians quit the Anglican Church of Canada this week because he believes many of its bishops are "arguably heretical" for adhering to "poisonous liberalism."
James (J.I.) Packer, whom Time magazine recently named as one of the planet's 25 most influential evangelicals, said he hesitated before using the harsh terms to describe the Anglican bishops, but believed he must do so in the name of truth.
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What does this have to do with homosexuality exactly?
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RE: Homosexuality in the News - 4/29/2008 3:27:27 PM
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According to Anglican polity the church buildings and the various other property in each parish belong to the overall church not the local congregation and therefore when the local bishop/pastor deviates from the orthodoxy they can ask for it all back and kick out the current occupants. Very much unlike the congregational polity of the Baptist or other American religious groups.
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RE: Homosexuality in the News - 4/29/2008 4:03:52 PM
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Some churches continue to support the homosexual lifestyle in many ways. I just saw this disgusting piece of news:
Presbyterian Church Clears Minister in Gay Marriage Case
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RE: Homosexuality in the News - 4/29/2008 4:34:41 PM
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According to Anglican polity the church buildings and the various other property in each parish belong to the overall church not the local congregation and therefore when the local bishop/pastor deviates from the orthodoxy they can ask for it all back and kick out the current occupants. Very much unlike the congregational polity of the Baptist or other American religious groups.
I still don't understand what this has to do with the purpose of this thread.
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RE: Homosexuality in the News - 4/29/2008 4:57:13 PM
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I still don't understand what this has to do with the purpose of this thread.
This might help, from the article:
Packer, 81, said he can no longer serve under Vancouver-area Bishop Michael Ingham, who in 2002 sanctioned a diocesan vote that eventually permitted the blessing of same-sex couples at eight out of 67 parishes.
"He is a bishop who appears heretical," Packer said, comparing Ingham to high-profile progressive U.S. Episcopal Bishop John Shelby Spong and Scottish Episcopal Church Bishop Richard Holloway.
Packer is a long-time member of St. John's Shaughnessy Anglican Church in Vancouver, which in February left the 640,000-member Anglican Church of Canada to join with 14 other congregations from across the nation to operate under the authority of the South American prelate.
Known for the way he does not sugarcoat his conservative Christian beliefs despite his soft-spoken, gracious demeanour, Packer said the Bible is the "absolute" authority on divine truth, which clearly describes homosexuality as a grave sin.
Opening his English Standard Version of the Bible, of which he was chief editor, Packer read out passages from 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, in which the apostle Paul compares "men who lie with men" to drunkards, thieves, slanderers and adulterers, none of whom will enter the kingdom of heaven.
"That's a very solemn apostolic warning," said Packer, a self-described "Calvinist Anglican" who wrote the book, The Quest for Godliness: The Puritan Vision of the Christian Life.
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RE: Homosexuality in the News - 4/29/2008 10:07:45 PM
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According to Anglican polity the church buildings and the various other property in each parish belong to the overall church not the local congregation and therefore when the local bishop/pastor deviates from the orthodoxy they can ask for it all back and kick out the current occupants. Very much unlike the congregational polity of the Baptist or other American religious groups.
I still don't understand what this has to do with the purpose of this thread.
The end if the article is why I place that clipping here.
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Asking himself why God would allow "poisonous liberalism" and its views of God and homosexuality to grow and flourish in Europe and North America, Packer said it must be so the West would eventually realize how dangerous such ideas are -- "so the poison will be fully squeezed out."
Packer maintained it is top leaders of the Anglican Church of Canada, not he and more than 2,000 fellow conservatives in the Anglican Network in Canada, who have changed their interpretation of Christianity since he moved from Britain to Canada more than 29 years ago to teach at Vancouver's Regent College.
"I'm simply being an old-fashioned mainstream Anglican," Packer said. The Bible teaches, he said, that people who feel erotic attractions to people of the same gender "are called by God to remain chaste," avoiding sexual relationships./quote]
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