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Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question)


Yes I did and currently use NFP
  26% (33)
No I did not and currently use NFP
  3% (5)
I do currently and am considering NFP
  10% (13)
I do not currently and am considering NFP
  31% (40)
I do currently and am NOT considering NFP
  3% (4)
I do not currently and am NOT considering NFP
  24% (31)


Total Votes : 126


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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/30/2005 9:58:15 PM   
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I don't actually check my cervix position. I can't feel a difference. but the book does show a diagram, and if you can find it, it'll show you how.

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/30/2005 11:39:15 PM   
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It's not hard. In the book I read, it told you to squat and, well, use your (washed! ) finger. Actually not as gross at it sounds! You'll probably get diagrams with the materials you ordered, but it's not a bad idea to check it without that just to see if you can tell the differences between open and closed by feel.

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/31/2005 12:29:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ta_mosquito


What do you ladies use/do during your fertile period? Based on a 28 day cycle, it turns out I'll be ovulating 2 days after my (tentative) wedding!


Keep in mind that the stress of your wedding could delay ovulation that month. If you are just begining to learn NFP, it could be a little more confusing because your fertile period is extended.

We abstain during the fertile period. It wasn't an issue when we were newlyweds because we didn't mind if we got pregnant.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/31/2005 12:44:39 AM   
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Tas - I may have read your post wrong, but just in case...

I am assuming you figure that since you have a 28 day cycle that day 14 will be the time you are fertile. That is a Myth!!!! Every woman is different - some may not ovulate until day 20. When is your wedding date? I hope it will give you a few months to 'grasp' and See when you actually ovulate so that you can be prepared.

We either abstain and or use condoms with lots of KY. Normally, though, we abstain cause we Hate condums with a passion (partially due to the 'problem' i have called vestibulius).

Welcome to the NFP FAM!! You'll LOVE IT!!! I Promise!!!

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/31/2005 1:57:39 AM   
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oh and pregnancy stuff... I've been told that, if you want to get pregnant, it's good for the woman to stay laying down with a pillow underneath her knees for like a half hour after intercourse. It allows more to, well, stay up there.


Both times I got pregnant, it was actually with a pillow under my rear--which was not why we were using it, he just said, hey, let's put this here and whaddayaknow?

Jen, it isn't just the ejaculate. Women get pretty lubricated themselves and that can be messy, too, which I think is a lot of what we feel afterwards. I mean, there isn't that much stuff that the guy is responible for--like a tablespoon? In any case, I just learned to get used to it. It isn't icky or anything, it's nice and clear and dries up and isn't sticky--that I remember. Goodness, it's been almost nine years, maybe I just blocked all that stuff out? LOL.

As far as UTIs go, it isn't the ejaculate that is the problem, it's the repeated pressing against the urethra, with whatever bacteria or fluids are around there, that is the problem. I always HAD to go afterwards anyhow, which I hated, 'cause I had much rather stay all curled up in his arms.

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/31/2005 8:50:04 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Flintejae

Tas - I may have read your post wrong, but just in case...

I am assuming you figure that since you have a 28 day cycle that day 14 will be the time you are fertile. That is a Myth!!!! Every woman is different - some may not ovulate until day 20. When is your wedding date? I hope it will give you a few months to 'grasp' and See when you actually ovulate so that you can be prepared.


Looks like the calendar program puts ovulation somewhere around days 15-18. (Since I haven't begun charting/temping, it can only go by the timing of my periods.) Our wedding is October 1st (tentatively - not yet set in stone), so I've got 4 months to figure this out.

FOUR MONTHS?!? I gotta get planning!

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/31/2005 9:04:33 AM   
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No question that's a myth about the 28 day cycle, and it's one of the things that came as a real surprise to me when I started really studying up on this form of birth control. I thought the 28 day cycle was the norm and a few people just deviated from it. I found out how wrong that is.

My cycle has usually been 26 days in the last few years. Before that, it was about 30-32 days for years. But over the years, there have been a few times when I had a very short cycle, and ovulation occurred on days 8-12. Whew! I actually got pregnant with my son on day 9 or day 11. Pretty short cycle there. So it's important to really know your body, and the good news is that you can.

I wished I had practiced this kind of birth control from the gitgo. I HATED that other stuff. This is so freeing, because you are so much more aware of what is going on. Plus the pill (even before I knew the latest facts about it), I simply hated with a passion. Took it for 2-1/2 years, and I felt horrible the whole time. Talk about not being in the mood. The pill really jacked me around.

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/31/2005 10:28:44 AM   
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Tora - Thanks for teaching me the truth! :) :)

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/31/2005 2:34:36 PM   
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Your welcome FlintJae, but all I did was 'play it forward'. I have other ladies on CW to thank for getting me turned on to NFP. You and the other recent NFP'ers have to keep spreading the word.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/31/2005 3:25:53 PM   
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Yes, but now I understand 'why' it's important to go pee after 'relations'! All because of You!

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/31/2005 9:09:12 PM   
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I think this is directed at Anne- I tried the cervix check out of curiosity, but don't do it anymore. I could tell the difference, but I don't need the extra info. I found it was easiest to check while in the shower- it gets rid of a lot of the possible "ick" factor of sticking your finger so far "up there". DH and I use condoms when I'm fertile- he's not interested in abstaining , although it does tend to be a bit less frequent. The ccli kit/book will recommend abstaining when you're fertile because the Catholic position is that any artificial bc is a sin. Other than that, the kit told me everything I needed to know, and the book is a great resource on other things too.
You might be surprised at how quickly you get the charts figured out. Its really pretty intuitive.
I love having NFP support here! Most friends I've mentioned it to think I'm crazy, or that its the rhythm method
DH and I BOTH usually have to go pee after "relations". We get up, clean up a bit, do our thing, then lay back down and cuddle.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/31/2005 10:29:15 PM   
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yeah ... pottying after intercourse is a big MUST.
I'm not sure what it was, but on our honeymoon I had what really felt like a UTI. I'm sure it wasn't, as it went away pretty quickly without meds. But boy did it hurt.

If we're not in teh middle of something, after clean up DH and I usually lie on the bed and cuddle or talk or watch TV. Although sometimes we just need to get back to life. We cuddle later than.

I learned NFP on my own; without the kit or any help from CCLI. I tried to get in a class, but they met on Sundays about 30 minutes south of where I live and an hour south of where I went to church. Wasn't an option. Teh book is great. I first checked it out from the library, took notes, made my own charts, and then started up. Asked all the questions I needed here.

I love it. I really really love it. Not to mention I am slowly getting a desire to be intimate with DH when being on the pill I had no desire.

I have a hard time telling people I use NFP also. But I tell them it works for me and DH and it's really none of their business. We're not pregnant yet. They usually are accepting of that, so they back off. Although the worst reaction I received was from my mom, who said, "Your grandparents were using it when Uncle Michael was conceived." Oh well. They didn't do it right then. And since the book was first written in teh 70s and Uncle M was born in the 50s, I doubt they knew everything that I know. So there!

Anyway ......... I forgot my whole point; other than I really love NFP.


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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/31/2005 11:10:20 PM   
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UTIs or the beginning of them are very common for women who are initiated into intercourse. As my gynecologist explained it to me (about a 100 years ago. LOL! ), brides are especially susceptible, because they are not usually eating and drinking properly(especially not drinking enough water) before the wedding due to being consumed by all the preparations for the wedding. This sets them up with a lot of bacteria that is then irritated by the intercourse. UTIs used to be commonly referred to as bride's disease, because it was so common among newly married women who typically had a lot more sex after marriage than before marriage.

I was told to drink A LOT of water before and after the wedding. That's just a good idea all the time anyway. Most of us just don't drink enough water (males as well as females).

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/31/2005 11:12:54 PM   
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Other than Crosswalk, I don't think I've ever told anyone I use NFP. I've just never discussed it with people. I never had a group to support me as you all have here. It would have been very helpful when I started out, and the gynecologists I've had have told me to proceed with caution -- no real help there. So this forum is a great help for all of you starting out. Wished I'd had someone to discuss it with.

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/31/2005 11:14:00 PM   
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yeah ... I drank a lot of water before my wedding. My MIL made me. She kept giving me water. I'm glad for it. I think I had 3 bottles of water just before my wedding. And I didn't get to pee until the reception. And that was awkward!!!

If it was teh beginning of a UTI, I nipped it in the bud pretty good. I was afraid of it getting really bad because we didn't have insurance. So I'm glad it didn't actually develop. The discomfort only lasted 16 hours maybe. I was fine by dinner the next day. Although I do remember making sure I drank cranberry juice for breakfast and lunch the next day.

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/31/2005 11:15:48 PM   
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I take that back. I did have one woman to talk to. She was the wife of one of my coworkers. They are actually the ones who told me about it, and got me to thinking about it. I did discuss it with her quite a bit when I first started, but then she moved away about a year into it, and I never spoke of it again to anyone until this thread and maybe a few previous threads on Crosswalk.

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/31/2005 11:18:04 PM   
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Yeah ... CW has proven awesome for many different things for me. From NFP to marriage questions to sex questions ... I really love CW and the women here. (I love it for other reasons too)

I have no real married friends other than my parents and my sister, and I can't talk about these kinds of things with my sister or mom. So this has been great. And really, since we moved to Cali, I haven't had many friends in whom I can truly confide like I can with my friends on CW.

Anyway ..... back on topic ..................

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 6/1/2005 12:57:20 AM   
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and the gynecologists I've had have told me to proceed with caution -- no real help there.


My last GYN didn't have a problem with NFP, but I did have a run in with a Nurse Practitioner with another physician's group that was very un-informed about NFP. She actually admonished me about the method, then warned that I'd better be taking pre-natal vitamins because I was most likely going to get pregnant.

I am begining to have a bit of problem with my periods and am going to have to go to a new GYN since we moved. I can't wait to get in there and have them hand me a pack of BC Pills because they fix everything.

I also can't let the CW comments lie without adding that I have learned so much here that I wouldn't have out in the real world. You just don't have time to sit down with people and talk as intensely as we can here about sensitive issues like breastfeeding, birth control and the like. Learning about the harmful effects of the pill via CW has been one of the most valuable things I learned here.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 6/1/2005 11:09:32 AM   
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I concur with Tora and Christine. Crosswalk has been an amazing resource for me to! I actually got prompted, via cw, to really consider NFP. I can't even begin to express how much I value and appreciate the people here.

I love NFP too. It's sad and amazing just how much the pill - and other icky meds - mess with your body when there's No need financially, physically, or mentally!

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 6/1/2005 11:57:46 AM   
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Note to self: purchase bathroom-friendly wedding dress; drink lots of water (although I already drink 64 oz a day at a minimum, so I'd notice if I didn't); pack cranberry capsules on honeymoon.

Further note to self: bury that thought deep until I get engaged.

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 6/1/2005 12:07:40 PM   
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 6/1/2005 12:08:02 PM   
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I'm also VERY glad I found out about NFP here. If not, I would go around thinking condoms or the pill are about the only bc methods out there! Even though I'm not married (and am still a virgin), I still like charting to be able to really see what's going on with my cycle. I tried bc pills for about 6 months (to regulate my cycle) and while they were great to ease the symptoms of my cycle and reulated it so well, they made me cry ALL the time! Not fun for me, my co workers, my family, and especially my boyfriend.

My GYN always asks if I want bc pills and the last time I saw her I told her no and she asked about my boyfriend and I. I told her that we are very serious and discussing marriage but that we would likely use NFP (my bf and I had already discussed this). She seemed impressed and said, "That's great if you know how to use it and if you don't, then we'll just get to deliver your baby."

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 6/1/2005 12:09:03 PM   
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LOL @ Jen!! I think I'll adopt your list!!

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 6/1/2005 1:47:27 PM   
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I'm so glad I stumbled across NFPers here too! I was reading a magazine BC comparison and it tossed in a mention of NFP as "code word for avoiding sex for half the month" and talked about cyclebeads as the best way to do NFP, although it doesn't look anywhere near as accurate as charting. In fact it's based on the standard days method," which looks to me possibly less accurate than the rhythm method. The first time your ovulation is delayed using that thing, you're gonna get preggers. *sigh* When will people ever learn?

Anyway, my point (and I do have one) is that if I hadn't found a group of people who used NFP here, I might never have really looked into it, and probably would have wound up using some form of barrier method for my entire cycle. Who wants that?

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 6/1/2005 2:38:19 PM   
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That is the thing that astounded me -- was how wrong my preconceived notions were. I thought this stuff was the rhythm method until I started reading up on it. I could not believe how off I was from what I had read and heard, and how very empowering it was to get the right information. Too many people dismiss this stuff as not valid or useful. What a shame.

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