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Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question)
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/25/2008 9:48:22 PM
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We had looked into NFP before getting married, but my parents pretty much told me I NEEDED to be on the pill, and that NFP/FAM wasn't reliable. I did what they wanted since I didn't want to argue otherwise.
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Mom is not too excited about it because she does not want us to have more kids right now (especially since we just had Mary two weeks ago).
These kinds of comments amaze me. Don't your parents want to/enjoy being grandparents? Part of leaving and cleaving, imo, is making decisions about everything marriage related (including sex & babies) as a couple without the outside influence of parents. It's none of their business and quite shocking to me that a parent of a grown child would feel the need to 'prescribe' the pill...
I do sort of understand their POV given our situation when we got married. You also have to take into account that my parents are not QF and so don't have that mindset (not a good/bad, right/wrong thing, just is). At the time that this conversation took place, neither DH or I had a job that would have allowed us to even support OURSELVES, and we weren't sure where we'd be living after we got married. I had applied for tons of teaching jobs, but nothing had come through quite yet, and DH was planning on being in school full time. Even after we moved here we lived with DH's aunt and uncle for a few months until we got our feet underneath us. My parents are looking forward to being grandparents, but at that point they were willing to wait for the blessing. 
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/26/2008 6:56:33 AM
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We had looked into NFP before getting married, but my parents pretty much told me I NEEDED to be on the pill, and that NFP/FAM wasn't reliable. I did what they wanted since I didn't want to argue otherwise.
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Mom is not too excited about it because she does not want us to have more kids right now (especially since we just had Mary two weeks ago).
These kinds of comments amaze me. Don't your parents want to/enjoy being grandparents? Part of leaving and cleaving, imo, is making decisions about everything marriage related (including sex & babies) as a couple without the outside influence of parents. It's none of their business and quite shocking to me that a parent of a grown child would feel the need to 'prescribe' the pill...
They love being grandparents. However for the past year we have been living in thier house (we are trying to sell ours in FL) and getting preg with Mary probably was not the most responsible thing to do, but we did it out of faith (kind of a long story). We are still living with them (however not much longer we have a house to move into in town PTL!!  )
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/26/2008 10:58:56 AM
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Is it possible to be fertile three weeks post partum? I am still bleeding but it seems very mucusy (sorry if TMI). It looks like what is described as fertile mucus.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/26/2008 1:23:04 PM
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I do sort of understand their POV given our situation when we got married. You also have to take into account that my parents are not QF and so don't have that mindset (not a good/bad, right/wrong thing, just is). At the time that this conversation took place, neither DH or I had a job that would have allowed us to even support OURSELVES, and we weren't sure where we'd be living after we got married. I had applied for tons of teaching jobs, but nothing had come through quite yet, and DH was planning on being in school full time. Even after we moved here we lived with DH's aunt and uncle for a few months until we got our feet underneath us. My parents are looking forward to being grandparents, but at that point they were willing to wait for the blessing.
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They love being grandparents. However for the past year we have been living in thier house (we are trying to sell ours in FL) and getting preg with Mary probably was not the most responsible thing to do, but we did it out of faith (kind of a long story). We are still living with them (however not much longer we have a house to move into in town PTL!! )
I understand that not all are QF...but that doesn't mean, imo, that it's appropriate for parents/grandparents to be making those kinds of judgements or comments. They do not know what the Lord has planned for you nor how He will provide if/when he blesses with a child. Just because a person isn't in what from a human (American) perspective would be a 'desirable financial situation' does not mean that it's irresponsible or foolish to have children that the Lord has purposed.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/26/2008 1:27:08 PM
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I even got 2 +OPKs without actually ovulating.
You can get +OPK's right after a miscarriage if your HCG levels are still detectable. OPK's and pregnancy tests pick up variations of a similar hormone. Imagine them as being the same but HCG wears a hat, so OPK's can work as pregnancy tests but not the other way around.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/26/2008 4:39:33 PM
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Lets not get into a discussion of QF here, lets keep it on Natural Planning and support, which when I read the op is a discussion of our bodies, not about the concept of QF. Thanks.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/26/2008 4:52:54 PM
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for my knowledge what is QF?
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/26/2008 4:56:14 PM
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Is it possible to be fertile three weeks post partum? I am still bleeding but it seems very mucusy (sorry if TMI). It looks like what is described as fertile mucus.
I don't think so. Sounds like part of the lochia still...that can be very mucousy at times. I believe if you are nursing full time, you are considered safe for the first 6 or 8 weeks...no bleeding or discharge during that time counts as anything. I could be wrong, but that's what I'm remembering.
Of course there are those rare occasions of 9-10 month apart siblings. How long did it take for your cycle to come back after your other kids?
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/26/2008 5:01:10 PM
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Of course there are those rare occasions of 9-10 month apart siblings. How long did it take for your cycle to come back after your other kids?
Well after my son I started taking bc at my 6 week mark. I bf him for about 2 months and was preg with Rae when he was 3 mos old. I don't remember if I had a cycle inbetween. After my daughter at the 6 week I had an IUD. After IUD taken out in like May I had I think two cycles and was preg with Mary.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/26/2008 5:17:47 PM
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hmmm , yeah that's kind of what I was thinking.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/27/2008 5:09:14 AM
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Nicole- I know that my mom said that her period always returned around the 6 week mark- regardless of nursing or not (though she nursed all of us until the 1st year). She told me to not bet on nursing as bc. So if it is in our genes (sounds like it might) you probably should consider it fertile.
Okay- personal question here. The only thing that I really pay attention to is my mucus each month. This is mainly since I am not sexually active and not married so it isn't a big deal to me. My question though is knowing if I am actually ovalating or not. My period is very regular (every 24-28 days and as been since I started my period at age 10). My mucus changes like you ladies talk about on here. So I am assuming that I am actually ovalating since my mucus changes and I have my period on regular cycles???? Again, I am just a lurker, but had this random question for now.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/27/2008 9:27:21 AM
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I think that you can't know whether or not you're actually ovulating unless you take temps. Someone may correct me if I'm wrong.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/27/2008 9:51:20 AM
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Or use OPK's.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/27/2008 1:51:24 PM
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Beth - you can't FOR SURE know unless you temp/use OPKs, but if you're consistently cycling every 24 - 28 days and have a good mucous pattern, I would say you're ovulating!
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/11/2008 5:59:41 PM
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Hi Ladies,
I'm brand new, I got referred by a reader on my website. I posted "email me about nfp!". My story is a bit unusual. My husband and I got pregnant 1 period after our wedding. I was trying a diaphram, but thought I would only use it when I wasn't "safe". I've since learned that I was using the wrong week, and I also wasn't using it consistantly. That was DD in 06.
Got my period back after 9-10 months and got pregnant after 3 periods (which still nursing 6-7x a day). That was DS. Unfortunately DS - Joshua - had an encephalocele (a neural tube defect that made his brain heriate through his skull). Long story short, he lived 67 days and just passed away 8 weeks ago.
So you can understand that I don't to be pregnant again any time soon. We're just at the beginning of this grief and I need to give myself time before I get pregnant. And DH is reallllly hesitant about more children in general (I think that's fear/grief talking) but I wouldn't want to jeopardize our relationship right now, we have enough marital stress as it is.
I did research in college about BC pills and decided then I wouldn't use them. Before and after each baby I've re-researched (hoping to find different information) and have always gone back to using condoms or saying "I think I'm safe".
So here's why I'm posting. Can I ACTUALLY rely on this? I can't handle being pregnant right now, neither can my husband. But I won't take the :easy: road, because I think hormonal bc is wrong.
PS. My period already came back - I'm on my 2nd one, so I'm sure I'm fertile.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/11/2008 6:11:01 PM
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((hugs))
Short answer is yes, you can rely on it. You can read around on this thread and find people who've used it for varying lengths of time to avoid pregnancy, as well as people who used it to help get pregnant.
Longer answer is that nothing is 100% (except abstinence), and you do have to be committed to following through on whichever method you choose. That being said, NFP/FAM can be reliable, and FAM doesn't necessarily require abstinence when you're fertile- you can just use a backup. The first thing anyone here will tell you to do is get a copy of 1 of 2 books: Taking Charge of Your Fertility, OR The Art of Natural Family Planning. I've been told Taking Charge (TCOYF) is a good reference and teaches FAM- charting with backups when necessary. The Art (TANFP) is more conservative-minded. It specifically teaches NFP, which is charting with abstinence, and leans towards the Catholic viewpoint on this- not a bad thing, just something to consider.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/11/2008 6:11:51 PM
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Welcome to the community. Glad that you found us.
There are several ladies here who could/would testify that NFP has worked for them for years. The trick is to be "good" with it. Don't cheat. Temp regularly, use multiple signs, and be conservative when interpreting.
It's difficult, because there are so many times you will want to cheat and know you shouldn't. One thing to think about is whether or not you want to abstain when you are fertile (100% effective) or if you want to use a barrier when fertile. You are already comfortable with you're diaphragm, that might not be a bad start.
I would suggest getting either the Art of Natural Family Planning or Taking Charge of Your Fertility. They are both excellent books. I found both of them at my local library when I started. I think Art of NFP is a little easier to read, but if you aren't Catholic, you might find it difficult to accept completely. Taking Charge is written by medical professionals and goes into different variations and logic. Both have charts you can use, and both have the same methods described. If you are interested, there are classes you can take for NFP at local Catholic churches. http://www.ccli.org/ will get you started if you are looking for that kind of assistance and support.
I hope you can find what you are looking for here on the boards. And feel free to look around the other folders. This is a great community with fantastic friendships. Welcome again.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 5/11/2008 6:13:46 PM
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LOL- Christine and I must have cross-posted.
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