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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/19/2008 5:15:35 PM
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Pat-rebel_lady
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Okay, here's how it is for me: I've smoked for '55' years; I've attempted to quit several times but haven't made it yet. I REALLY DO WANT TO QUIT!! I never really WANTED to smoke; but I did, and the rest is history; the reasons why I started are not important --- we all have our reasons.
I believe there is a 'Key' for everyone who smokes and wants to quit. I'm hoping I found that 'Key' (information I didn't have before --- other times I tried to quit), or at least the first of many (as many as I need); maybe it will be a 'Key' for someone else too:
HERE
Anyway, I'm going back to re-read it again and do some other research (something I'm looking for) and then I'll see what happens. After my last attempt at quitting had failed I lost all hope of ever quitting; But something in this 'Lies' link has given me renewed hope.
However, for myself, I found that I have done better and gone longer periods of time not smoking when I don't tell anyone I've quit, and make an extra effort to act no differently than when I was smoking --- which is Not an easy thing to do!!
My purpose for posting this was to share that link.
Jimbo, I know you have been sharing links and things from this 'whyquit' site; all of it good; for sometime now (I've been lurking these many months) but when I found this through google I found it was the 'Key' I needed to make the others (what you have linked to and more) fall into place for me. Thank you.
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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/19/2008 5:22:25 PM
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DenimDiva
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However, for myself, I found that I have done better and gone longer periods of time not smoking when I don't tell anyone I've quit, and make an extra effort to act no differently than when I was smoking --- which is Not an easy thing to do!!
I have found that too.
People who care about you want to know how the quitting is going. That gets me thinking about it.
People who don't care about you want to tease you or offer you a smoke.
If you are upset about something, no matter how legit it is, someone will blame it on a nicotine fit.
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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/19/2008 5:28:21 PM
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Pat-rebel_lady
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ORIGINAL: Pat-rebel_lady
However, for myself, I found that I have done better and gone longer periods of time not smoking when I don't tell anyone I've quit, and make an extra effort to act no differently than when I was smoking --- which is Not an easy thing to do!!
I have found that too.
People who care about you want to know how the quitting is going. That gets me thinking about it.
People who don't care about you want to tease you or offer you a smoke.
If you are upset about something, no matter how legit it is, someone will blame it on a nicotine fit.
Thank you for understanding.
I want you all to know you are in my thoughts and prayers.
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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/19/2008 5:33:15 PM
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JordanW
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I slipped up yesterday, I feel like such a failure. I went 18 days without smoking, and yesterday, after being at my Grandma's house for 2 days, I took a pack of cigarettes that were still sitting in the fridge and went to her house and I started smoking again. I've been quit since last night sometime though. I don't know what triggered it, but it was a lot of things, mainly my computer acting up on me, and then me getting really stressed out about it. I'm in need of some real prayer right now guys.
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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/19/2008 5:33:41 PM
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Just popped in to say, "Way to go!!!!" It can be done. I've been smoke free for 10 years and it's was hard, but well worth it. Anyone catch those funny commercials about doing things without smoking?? I'm glad the psychological thing is being addressed because that was so true for me. I prayed ALOT, sang, screamed and ate.
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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/19/2008 5:37:48 PM
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stellaluna
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I think there's something to that lies thing. I read a bunch of stuff on quitsmokingonline.com. I don't know if anything it said was true, but it totally helped me trick myself into believing that quitting wasn't that hard. And here I am a year later.
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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/19/2008 5:38:15 PM
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DenimDiva
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I slipped up yesterday, I feel like such a failure. I went 18 days without smoking, and yesterday, after being at my Grandma's house for 2 days, I took a pack of cigarettes that were still sitting in the fridge and went to her house and I started smoking again. I've been quit since last night sometime though. I don't know what triggered it, but it was a lot of things, mainly my computer acting up on me, and then me getting really stressed out about it. I'm in need of some real prayer right now guys.
((((JordanW)))) it's OK.
Take a deep breath and start again.
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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/19/2008 5:54:34 PM
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JimboFletch
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You are only a loser if you give up. You are not a loser.
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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/19/2008 6:02:23 PM
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JordanW
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I refuse to give up!
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RE: Celebrating Recovery - 5/19/2008 6:18:15 PM
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Hi, I'm Dag, and I've been smoking for 22 years. I'd like to quit, but to paraphrase Woody Allen "I don't want to be present when it happens".
I am not sure if I am ready to quit quite yet, but maybe I can stick around this thread to parttake in the sharing? Maybe I will pick up on some gold nuggets along the way! I have tried quitting a few times before, and know all about the roller-coaster ride "resolution-craving-caving-guilt-resignation".
If there only was a pill...
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RE: Celebrating Recovery - 5/19/2008 6:35:02 PM
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JordanW
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Hi, I'm Dag, and I've been smoking for 22 years. I'd like to quit, but to paraphrase Woody Allen "I don't want to be present when it happens".
I am not sure if I am ready to quit quite yet, but maybe I can stick around this thread to parttake in the sharing? Maybe I will pick up on some gold nuggets along the way! I have tried quitting a few times before, and know all about the roller-coaster ride "resolution-craving-caving-guilt-resignation".
If there only was a pill...
There is a pill, and it's called Chantax.
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RE: Celebrating Recovery - 5/19/2008 10:37:09 PM
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Hang in Jordan, just start over! Praying for you!!!
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RE: Celebrating Recovery - 5/20/2008 8:56:03 AM
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Children can become hooked on tobacco within days of starting to smoke and might even be addicted from the first cigarette, according to the leader of an American study into the nicotine habits of school pupils.
The speed and small amount of tobacco required to give young people the symptoms of addiction surprised the researchers who coined a new term, juvenile onset nicotine dependence, after 30 months monitoring more than 679 pupils aged 12 and 13 when the study began.
The children were asked, over eight interviews, questions such as whether they had tried to give up smoking and failed or if they had cravings.
Among 332 young people who had ever tried tobacco, even just a puff, 40% reported signs of addiction. Among the 237 who had inhaled, 53% reported signs of addiction. Teenage girls who became hooked took only an average of three weeks from when they started to smoke occasionally. Half the boys were hooked within six months.
Scientists had previously assumed addiction did not begin until youths were smoking at least 10 cigarettes a day.
But the research - led by Joseph DiFranza, of the University of Massachusetts medical school in Worcester, America - indicated that the smoking pupils who showed signs of being hooked only had an average of two cigarettes a week.
"Some of these kids were hooked within a few days of starting to smoke," said Dr DiFranza. "Data from human and animal studies leads me to suspect that addiction to nicotine begins, in many cases, with the first cigarette."
More Here
I was 13 when I started; I believe this report is straight and true.
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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/20/2008 3:36:36 PM
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Pat-rebel_lady
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I wasn't sure where to post this. Mods feel free to change as long as links are correct.
I know of a few people here that are looking to/trying to quit smoking. I think we need a support thread where we can encourage each other without being browbeaten for smoking.
I have been smoking for the better part of 23 years. I tried to quit again today. It's sickening, I give up after a few hours. I don't understand why it's so hard.
Please anyone else who is struggling please post.
I really thought this thread was support for those who are struggling to quit AND those who have taken the steps and have started the process of quitting; not just for this latter group.
I would love to know why some who are struggling and post are mostly ignored, and others are supported and encouraged.
I had found renewed hope, and thanks to you, DenimDiva, for understanding, I went 13-1/2 hours without smoking before hitting a brick wall again and am now back to square one in loss of hope again.
Has anyone here ever flunked 3rd grade 17 times? I have, and I'm almost too embarrassed to admit it and/or even try again; But I do want to try again. If only I could find the keys to open the doors on these brick walls I keep hitting:
1.) Lack of communication, among brothers and sisters in the Lord, on this subject.
2.) Struggling over disagreement with what has been stated about weight gain.
3.) Anger control; can find nothing in this area.
Couldn't help but wonder about these things out-loud; because if I'm feeling this way maybe, just maybe someone else is too, and they need to know they are not alone.
Pat
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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/20/2008 3:56:37 PM
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JimboFletch
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1.) Lack of communication, among brothers and sisters in the Lord, on this subject.
2.) Struggling over disagreement with what has been stated about weight gain.
3.) Anger control; can find nothing in this area.
1. Are you talking about this thread or in general? I've found most of the posts in this thread supportive. (There have been a few other threads about smoking that have down-right nasty.)
2. I'm not sure what you're talking about on weight gain. I picked up about 18 pounds during my quit and have not done very well in losing it. I don't do sugar or processed flour or grains and I consistently and vigorously walk 1 to 5 miles, 5 days a week. I've experimented a lot with what I eat, currently reducing portions. But nicotine played a part in all our weight management before - even if we did not know it.
3. Anger... What can I say, it's a natural part of withdrawal because we feel deprived and our brains are all out of sorts while it is trying to reprogram itself to function normally. I was very aware of the anger aspect and managed to only lose my temper twice during my early quit.
My early quit was complicated by learning a new job in a new field at age 54 after being laid off from a 20-plus year job. My Dad had not long passed away and my MIL was battling breast cancer, a battle she lost about 7 months into my quit. I also went through some painful experiences at church.
The good news is that I am noticeably more mellow than before I quit. I used to be constantly angry driving home but now I shrug off inconveniences and enjoy the trip without a need for a nicotine fix.
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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/20/2008 3:59:46 PM
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JimboFletch
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PS - You'd have to gain about 100 pounds to offset the health benefits of quitting nicotine and/or tobacco.
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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/20/2008 4:08:25 PM
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stellaluna
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Who's not getting supported? I thought this thread was for everyone.
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I went 13-1/2 hours without smoking before hitting a brick wall again and am now back to square one in loss of hope again. Has anyone here ever flunked 3rd grade 17 times?
One website I was reading back in the day mentioned just such a thing and it said you have to think about each time you quit as practice for the next time. Eventually you'll get it down!
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1.) Lack of communication, among brothers and sisters in the Lord, on this subject.
Not sure I understand this.
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2.) Struggling over disagreement with what has been stated about weight gain.
What are you find out about weight gain? There are a couple of things at play when you stop smoking. First, nicotine increases your metabolism, so stopping smoking automatically slows things down. Second, nicotine tricks your body in regard to your blood sugar, which is why you can go long periods of time without eating as a smoker. As a non-smoker, you will have to eat more or more often to keep your blood sugar levels from crashing. And third, many people find they need something in their mouth to replace cigarettes. That's why things like pencils, straws, toothpicks, lollipops, etc. can be helpful. (Candy bars, not so much.  )
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3.) Anger control; can find nothing in this area.
Anger at what? Coming off nicotine can cause a wide range of psychological symptoms--mild in some people, not so mild in others. Do you feel you have some rage when you don't smoke?
(Edited to finish a sentence that I just stopped writing. I think I'm tired.)
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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/20/2008 4:40:52 PM
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DenimDiva
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You'd have to gain about 100 pounds to offset the health benefits of quitting nicotine and/or tobacco.
Since I am already considerably overweight, weight gain is something that I worry about. Thanks Jimbo for this reminder.
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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/20/2008 4:56:08 PM
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You'd have to gain about 100 pounds to offset the health benefits of quitting nicotine and/or tobacco.
Since I am already considerably overweight, weight gain is something that I worry about. Thanks Jimbo for this reminder.
I'm sure I've said this a time or two, but the most wonderful part of my new life is the freedom. If I were given an ironclad guarantee that I'd never have a tobacco-related health problem and that I'd live to be 105 regardless of how much tobacco I used, I wouldn't want to trade my freedom for a single cigarette, cigar, pipe, chew, or dip.
I don't have to plan my day around having an ample supply and/or an ample opportunity to get my nicotine fix. I can accept an invitation anywhere I'd like to go without taking into consideration non-smoking policies. I can enjoy my wife's, a family member's, or friend's company for as long as we want without concern for my nicotine level. I can ride to and from work without a need to get a fix - or make a special stop to replenish my stock.
Some of the trip has been bumpy, but the freedom more than makes up for the early part of the ride!
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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/20/2008 4:58:59 PM
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DenimDiva
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Excellent- thanks for the encouragement!
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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/20/2008 5:09:26 PM
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JordanW
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Going strong on day 2...
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RE: Quitting smoking support thread - 5/20/2008 5:29:24 PM
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DenimDiva
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Going strong on day 2...
Good job!
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