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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/1/2008 1:10:24 PM
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lightshineon
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I wish I could vote for GW again. I think he has been a great president! However, I did scrape the BUSH part of my Bush Cheney buper sticker off so that it just say's CHENEY.. I thought it might aggrivate some liberals. You never know..
I am in favor of the war. I think it was a great idea! First we go into Afghanistan, then into Iraq. That splits the arab world up... good for us I say! we are there if we need to put out foot on anyone.
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Guess again, Einstein. It's the West that is split, thanks to the ham-handed, bankrupt foreign policy of this administration. Al Qaeda continues to have a safe haven on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border, thanks in part because the brain trust you love pulled key forces out prematurely so they could carry out their pet project: Iraq. In case you've lost track, it's been half a decade in Iraq and the government is still propped up by US forces with a little help from the Brits. Yeah, I feel really safe. BTW, the Afghan legislature just voted to censor TV because some of the programming was not consistent with sharia law. Democracy really taking hold, right?
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/1/2008 1:22:54 PM
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RichLP
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My dear sister Lightshineon: Cow451 has his facts straight.
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/1/2008 9:00:54 PM
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jbow
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I think we did the right thing in both Afghanistan and Iraq. I support the administration. I just pray that McCain get's the win in November so that the dems wont have the chance to undo all the good that has been done.
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/2/2008 12:35:44 AM
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I think we did the right thing in both Afghanistan and Iraq. I support the administration. I just pray that McCain get's the win in November so that the dems wont have the chance to undo all the good that has been done.
I'm afraid we'll be reaping the consequences of this ill advised war in Iraq for decades to come....it's really sad that every generation has to re-learn the limits of military power.
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/3/2008 10:33:00 PM
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caoimhin
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Wait, I thought that all evangelicals were in mindless lockstep in support of Republicans. Obviously some of you didn't get the memo...
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/4/2008 6:39:39 AM
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Wait, I thought that all evangelicals were in mindless lockstep in support of Republicans. Obviously some of you didn't get the memo...
There was a memo?!?
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/5/2008 12:40:38 PM
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lightshineon
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Well I got the memo, and hey it is fine with me.
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/9/2008 4:00:31 PM
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I voted for Bush and I do not regret it. I do not agree with everything he has done either though. I was more disappointed with him in this term then I was in the last but I would still vote for him becuase my only alternative was Kerry. I just cannot bring my self to vote for someone who will push partial birth/ late term abortions and is all for gay marriage.
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/10/2008 9:16:05 AM
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lightshineon
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I know, I agree with you. The man can do nothing wth out somebody putting him down. He has done good and bad, like ever president. I think this time the ( other party), was just mad because Kerry lost.
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I voted for Bush and I do not regret it. I do not agree with everything he has done either though. I was more disappointed with him in this term then I was in the last but I would still vote for him becuase my only alternative was Kerry. I just cannot bring my self to vote for someone who will push partial birth/ late term abortions and is all for gay marriage.
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/10/2008 1:54:39 PM
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I think this time the ( other party), was just mad because Kerry lost.
Actually, I think they're still seething over the fact that Gore lost (and he did lose, by the way....). The left has a hard time letting go and moving forward....
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/10/2008 4:07:42 PM
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Actually, I think they're still seething over the fact that Gore lost (and he did lose, by the way....). The left has a hard time letting go and moving forward....
What the left needs to be mad about isn't that Gore lost but that they were stupid enough to nominate Kerry. I voted Peroutka in that one.
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/11/2008 2:15:44 AM
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I think we did the right thing in both Afghanistan and Iraq. I support the administration. I just pray that McCain get's the win in November so that the dems wont have the chance to undo all the good that has been done.
I'm afraid we'll be reaping the consequences of this ill advised war in Iraq for decades to come....it's really sad that every generation has to re-learn the limits of military power.
The fact of the matter is that we were bound to reap the consequences no matter what we did or did not do.
Consider for a moment if we chose to do nothing about the apparent threat that Sadam and Iraq posed after 9/11 not only to us but the whole Middle East.
Consider the state of affairs that the Middle East and the whole world could be in today if all our fears and the intelligence information, that both the Clinton and Bush administrations had at the time were true, and right on the money. Maybe, just maybe, the people in power, the people so many people love to bash, at one time did connect all the dots, and they all origionated and pointed to Iraq in ways we do not understand. We do not understand because the Middle East is a complex place with complex people and complex beliefs that we in the West have never really understood, and probably never will.
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/11/2008 6:16:34 AM
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Consider for a moment if we chose to do nothing about the apparent threat that Sadam and Iraq posed after 9/11 not only to us but the whole Middle East.
Then consider Iran right next door.
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We do not understand because the Middle East is a complex place with complex people and complex beliefs that we in the West have never really understood, and probably never will.
And when we have a chance to put someone over there to run things like a Zalmay we stop, realize our error, and then find an ignoramous to run it.
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/15/2008 3:49:55 PM
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It needs to be said that the ACLU now has a petition demanding an independant prosecuter to investigate the Bush Administration for violations of the War Crimes Act and the Federal Anti-Torture Act.
They've done this in response to a memo that has surfaced detailing meetings between former Sec. of State Colin Powell, V.P. Dick Cheney, then National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice, and I think John Ashcroft where they met to discuss what "harsh interogation techniques" were to be used on what individual prisoner. Apparently some of the methods discussed and approved at these meetings are the kinds of things that you or I would consider torture.
President Bush has said that he knew of and gave approval to these meetings.
If it is true that the United States government condoned and approved the use of torture then those responsible must be held accountable and tried for their crimes. No one is above the laww.
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/15/2008 3:52:45 PM
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lightshineon
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Well pink war is H***, so those kind of things just happen. accept it, and move on.
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It needs to be said that the ACLU now has a petition demanding an independant prosecuter to investigate the Bush Administration for violations of the War Crimes Act and the Federal Anti-Torture Act.
They've done this in response to a memo that has surfaced detailing meetings between former Sec. of State Colin Powell, V.P. Dick Cheney, then National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice, and I think John Ashcroft where they met to discuss what "harsh interogation techniques" were to be used on what individual prisoner. Apparently some of the methods discussed and approved at these meetings are the kinds of things that you or I would consider torture.
President Bush has said that he knew of and gave approval to these meetings.
If it is true that the United States government condoned and approved the use of torture then those responsible must be held accountable and tried for their crimes. No one is above the laww.
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Remember, whenever you have pearls, there are always plenty of pigs nearby who would be glad to step on them.
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/15/2008 3:55:36 PM
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jkdjr25
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Well pink war is H***, so those kind of things just happen. accept it, and move on.
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It needs to be said that the ACLU now has a petition demanding an independant prosecuter to investigate the Bush Administration for violations of the War Crimes Act and the Federal Anti-Torture Act.
They've done this in response to a memo that has surfaced detailing meetings between former Sec. of State Colin Powell, V.P. Dick Cheney, then National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice, and I think John Ashcroft where they met to discuss what "harsh interogation techniques" were to be used on what individual prisoner. Apparently some of the methods discussed and approved at these meetings are the kinds of things that you or I would consider torture.
President Bush has said that he knew of and gave approval to these meetings.
If it is true that the United States government condoned and approved the use of torture then those responsible must be held accountable and tried for their crimes. No one is above the laww.
*blink blink*
Are you saying that it's actually alright that the government tortured people in violation of our own laws against it?
That's not the kind of thing one can just "get over". It is unacceptable and just one more reason I'll be glad when Bush is out of office.
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/15/2008 3:57:19 PM
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lightshineon
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Yes it is acceptable, and what you have nine more months of him, so learn to like it.
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/15/2008 4:19:55 PM
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lightshineon
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What I was trying to say pink, in a hurry, I was not being hateful but in a hurry. Things unpleasent happen in times of war, they always have, rather, I like it, or not my intent was being , which I do not, but they happen. President Bush, is making hard choices, and we have to learn and embrace him while he is still in office. I know I used a poor way of saying this, but, my intent was being in a hurry, not hatefulness.
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Yes it is acceptable, and what you have nine more months of him, so learn to like it.
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Yes it is acceptable, and what you have nine more months of him, so learn to like it.
No. No it is NOT acceptable. Show me where Jesus said it was ok to torture a man. Show me where Christ said we were to accept such evil. Show me where our Lord and Saviour said that we had to learn to like it.
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RE: Bush and the rollback of tyranny: a look back - 4/15/2008 4:28:58 PM
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jkdjr25
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What I was trying to say pink, in a hurry, I was not being hateful but in a hurry. Things unpleasent happen in times of war, they always have, rather, I like it, or not my intent was being , which I do not, but they happen. President Bush, is making hard choices, and we have to learn and embrace him while he is still in office. I know I used a poor way of saying this, but, my intent was being in a hurry, not hatefulness.
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Yes it is acceptable, and what you have nine more months of him, so learn to like it.
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Yes it is acceptable, and what you have nine more months of him, so learn to like it.
No. No it is NOT acceptable. Show me where Jesus said it was ok to torture a man. Show me where Christ said we were to accept such evil. Show me where our Lord and Saviour said that we had to learn to like it.
Bad things may happen but that's no excuse for torture. It's wrong and there's no reason for it. If it was used then those repsonsible must be tried and held accountable for their actions. I don't deny that there are hard choices in war, but that's no excuse for doing evil.
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