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cow451 -> RE: All Bush - The Critque - One Stop Thread (5/6/2008 2:51:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lightshineon Ok, I will do the Christian thing and bash Bush. He is a bad public speaker, if he were a smooth con man, he would be the most popular president to date. That is because people are so easily duped, and follow the crowd. If Bush were a better speaker he could have said "Hope" "change", and by golly, he would have a chant written about him, a woman with here behind hanging out of shorts, proclaming her love for him on youtube. Not only that, he could take mind control over the simple minded, like a man is doing in this election. So yes, it is a shame that Bush is not more slick and slimey. Happy?I bashed our President. I'm wondering if you will be as supportive of President Obama.[;)]

cow451 -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/6/2008 2:52:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rlj I was reading an article about Bush's approval and disapproval ratings. 28% approve and 67% disapprove and it made me realize something. 67% of the country must be Libruls! [sm=crystreams.gif] http://www.gallup.com/poll/106426/Bush-Job-Approval-28-Lowest-Administration.aspx No no no. The poll means that two out of three Americans have smelled the coffee.

stamper_ben -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/6/2008 3:07:31 PM)
quote: No no no. The poll means that two out of three Americans have smelled the coffee. Or donchathink that these 2/3 could be like me? (If only....)

1dblthnk02 -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/6/2008 3:39:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stamper_ben Or donchathink that these 2/3 could be like me? What do you mean (sorry, but I don't know what you are like)?

stamper_ben -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/6/2008 3:48:27 PM)
Well, I've been told I'm more conservative then Genghis Khan...

1dblthnk02 -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/6/2008 4:01:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stamper_ben Well, I've been told I'm more conservative then Genghis Khan... . . . And therefore Mr. Bush is unpopular with you? I still don't get it.

cow451 -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/6/2008 4:51:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stamper_ben quote: No no no. The poll means that two out of three Americans have smelled the coffee. Or donchathink that these 2/3 could be like me? (If only....) Does that mean you have smelled the coffee?

1dblthnk02 -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/6/2008 5:14:45 PM)
Btw, Genghis Khan was hardly conservative. That's kind of like saying that Rasputin was merely liberal.

jkdjr25 -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/6/2008 5:25:24 PM)
We've reached a low point in our society if we can't even talk about the things that the President has done, that are patently wrong and illegal mind you, without being labled as being un-american, or liberals. We have the freedom to dissent in this country, though I'm noticing a disturbing trend towards attacking the dissenters rather than confront the meat of what they're saying. There are important things to be asked. Asking why the President lied about the use of torture, which is not only forbidden by international law but by American law as well isn't un-american, it's trying to get to the truth. We aren't bad people for demanding answers. We're patriotic americans who want to know why our leaders condoned and then lied about this evil practice. We love our homeland enough to point out the things that are wrong and to then move to correct them. Questions about the various scandals and contemptable practices that the Bush administration has perpetrated is all a part of that.

cow451 -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/6/2008 5:31:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jkdjr25 We've reached a low point in our society if we can't even talk about the things that the President has done, that are patently wrong and illegal mind you, without being labled as being un-american, or liberals. We have the freedom to dissent in this country, though I'm noticing a disturbing trend towards attacking the dissenters rather than confront the meat of what they're saying. There are important things to be asked. Asking why the President lied about the use of torture, which is not only forbidden by international law but by American law as well isn't un-american, it's trying to get to the truth. We aren't bad people for demanding answers. We're patriotic americans who want to know why our leaders condoned and then lied about this evil practice. We love our homeland enough to point out the things that are wrong and to then move to correct them. Questions about the various scandals and contemptable practices that the Bush administration has perpetrated is all a part of that. Sounds just like something a traitor would say.[sm=elephant.gif]

stamper_ben -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/6/2008 10:42:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: 1dblthnk02 quote: ORIGINAL: stamper_ben Well, I've been told I'm more conservative then Genghis Khan... . . . And therefore Mr. Bush is unpopular with you? I still don't get it. Then you probably never will if you think conservatives march in lockstep... quote: ORIGINAL: cow451 quote: ORIGINAL: stamper_ben quote: No no no. The poll means that two out of three Americans have smelled the coffee. Or donchathink that these 2/3 could be like me? (If only....) Does that mean you have smelled the coffee? Every morning when it's freshbrewed!

rlj -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/7/2008 7:39:35 AM)
quote: . . . And therefore Mr. Bush is unpopular with you? I still don't get it. Then you probably never will if you think conservatives march in lockstep... Would everyone please quit saying Bush and conservative together? It's like an oxymoron or something that confuses me like Jumbo Shrimp or Army Intelligence. ; )

1dblthnk02 -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/7/2008 9:24:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rlj Would everyone please quit saying Bush and conservative together? It's like an oxymoron or something that confuses me like Jumbo Shrimp or Army Intelligence. ; ) Hey, I never said Bush and conservative together; I said Bush together with lied and condones torture. lightshineon also used Bush together with Christian and godly, which I found particularly ironic. I will also not use conservative together with stamper_ben because, by his own admission, he is right of Genghis Khan. That's way beyond conservative.

stamper_ben -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/7/2008 10:36:11 AM)
quote: I will also not use conservative together with stamper_ben because, by his own admission, he is right of Genghis Khan. That's way beyond conservative. Which is where it needs to get to again. With compassion of course....

1dblthnk02 -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/7/2008 10:44:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stamper_ben Which is where it needs to get to again. With compassion of course.... Why with compassion? Or are you being jocular again?

stamper_ben -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/7/2008 12:54:39 PM)
quote: Why with compassion? Because contrary to popular belief, even far right conservatives have hearts.[sm=heart.gif]

TomTurn -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/7/2008 1:03:43 PM)
Compassion - Deep awareness of the suffering of another coupled with the wish to relieve it Who would not want to be labeled with compassion? But comapssion does not mean helping in a way that can look like helping but in fact keeps a person in suffering, plus draw others into suffering, that is sadistic (extreme cruelty), hence modern liberalism being a mental disease

jkdjr25 -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/7/2008 1:52:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TomTurn Compassion - Deep awareness of the suffering of another coupled with the wish to relieve it Who would not want to be labeled with compassion? But comapssion does not mean helping in a way that can look like helping but in fact keeps a person in suffering, plus draw others into suffering, that is sadistic (extreme cruelty), hence modern liberalism being a mental disease Have to disagree there. The current "compassionate" things that the current administration has done have been a disaster. Gas prices up 200%, unemployment higher than it's been in years, and inflation higher than it's been in 14 years. This hurts the poor and the middle class more than anyone else and it can be traced directly to the policies of President Bush. Bush has not been a good President overall. I don't understand why this is so hard to admit. Say it with me now, "Bush has not been a good President". Admission of his approval of torture after lying about it for years, getting us involved in a war we had no business fighitng in the first place, the abysmal state of the economy, his horrible record on immigration, his refusal to pardon the two border patrolmen who are currently serving time for shooting a blasted drug runner (based on said drug runner's testimony mind you) not to mention the Haliburton scandals, the Blackwater scandals and who knows what else that we haven't discovered yet. No all this adds up to a bad Presidency no matter how you slice it.

RichLP -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/7/2008 2:22:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jkdjr25 Have to disagree there. The current "compassionate" things that the current administration has done have been a disaster. Gas prices up 200%, unemployment higher than it's been in years, and inflation higher than it's been in 14 years. This hurts the poor and the middle class more than anyone else and it can be traced directly to the policies of President Bush. Bush has not been a good President overall. I don't understand why this is so hard to admit. Say it with me now, "Bush has not been a good President". Admission of his approval of torture after lying about it for years, getting us involved in a war we had no business fighitng in the first place, the abysmal state of the economy, his horrible record on immigration, his refusal to pardon the two border patrolmen who are currently serving time for shooting a blasted drug runner (based on said drug runner's testimony mind you) not to mention the Haliburton scandals, the Blackwater scandals and who knows what else that we haven't discovered yet. No all this adds up to a bad Presidency no matter how you slice it. Jkdjr25, This is one of the most cogent posts I've read here regarding criticisms of George W Bush's presidency. I sometimes wonder why some people are so reluctant to admit Bush has made mistakes - some of them catastrophic (Iraq quagmire). It's as if they personally identify with the man to the point that any admission of error on the president's part is going to reflect on them. I'm not exaggerating; I've never followed American politics as closely as I have since the 2000 election, and I've been shocked more than once at seeing how American Christians are so partisan when it comes to their politics. This has been a horrible presidency. I don't see how anyone can ignore the facts that are right in front of us.

TomTurn -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/7/2008 2:37:21 PM)
quote: Have to disagree there. The current "compassionate" things that the current administration has done have been a disaster. Gas prices up 200%, unemployment higher than it's been in years, and inflation higher than it's been in 14 years. This hurts the poor and the middle class more than anyone else and it can be traced directly to the policies of President Bush. Bush has not been a good President overall. I don't understand why this is so hard to admit. Say it with me now, "Bush has not been a good President". Admission of his approval of torture after lying about it for years, getting us involved in a war we had no business fighitng in the first place, the abysmal state of the economy, his horrible record on immigration, his refusal to pardon the two border patrolmen who are currently serving time for shooting a blasted drug runner (based on said drug runner's testimony mind you) not to mention the Haliburton scandals, the Blackwater scandals and who knows what else that we haven't discovered yet. No all this adds up to a bad Presidency no matter how you slice it. Have read my post 20 times over and still see no reference to George Bush in it. I was just defining compassion. If he falls into sadistic, so be it

jkdjr25 -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/7/2008 6:09:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TomTurn quote: Have to disagree there. The current "compassionate" things that the current administration has done have been a disaster. Gas prices up 200%, unemployment higher than it's been in years, and inflation higher than it's been in 14 years. This hurts the poor and the middle class more than anyone else and it can be traced directly to the policies of President Bush. Bush has not been a good President overall. I don't understand why this is so hard to admit. Say it with me now, "Bush has not been a good President". Admission of his approval of torture after lying about it for years, getting us involved in a war we had no business fighitng in the first place, the abysmal state of the economy, his horrible record on immigration, his refusal to pardon the two border patrolmen who are currently serving time for shooting a blasted drug runner (based on said drug runner's testimony mind you) not to mention the Haliburton scandals, the Blackwater scandals and who knows what else that we haven't discovered yet. No all this adds up to a bad Presidency no matter how you slice it. Have read my post 20 times over and still see no reference to George Bush in it. I was just defining compassion. If he falls into sadistic, so be it President Bush referred to himself as a "compassionate conservative". Other neo-cons have listed him as being an important figure in compassionate conservatism. I merely use him as an example of the lie that said movement is becoming.

TomTurn -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/7/2008 7:12:08 PM)
quote: President Bush referred to himself as a "compassionate conservative". Other neo-cons have listed him as being an important figure in compassionate conservatism. Well, first he would have to be a conservative ....... A Japanese doctor said, 'Medicine in my country is so advanced that we can take a kidney out of one man, put it in another, and have him looking for work in six weeks.' A German doctor said, 'That's nothing, we can take a lung out of one person, put it in another, and have him looking for work in four weeks.' A British doctor said, 'In my country, medicine is so advanced that we can take half of a heart out of one person, put it in another, and have them both looking for work in two weeks.' A Texas doctor, not to be outdone said, 'You guys are way behind. We took a man with no brains out of Texas, put him in the White House, and now half the country is looking for work.�

1dblthnk02 -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/8/2008 11:22:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stamper_ben Because contrary to popular belief, even far right conservatives have hearts. I didn't know this. I figured that the fact that conservatives have to actually indentify themselves as compassionate pretty much says it all.

cow451 -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/8/2008 3:54:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TomTurn quote: President Bush referred to himself as a "compassionate conservative". Other neo-cons have listed him as being an important figure in compassionate conservatism. Well, first he would have to be a conservative ....... A Japanese doctor said, 'Medicine in my country is so advanced that we can take a kidney out of one man, put it in another, and have him looking for work in six weeks.' A German doctor said, 'That's nothing, we can take a lung out of one person, put it in another, and have him looking for work in four weeks.' A British doctor said, 'In my country, medicine is so advanced that we can take half of a heart out of one person, put it in another, and have them both looking for work in two weeks.' A Texas doctor, not to be outdone said, 'You guys are way behind. We took a man with no brains out of Texas, put him in the White House, and now half the country is looking for work.� LOL

Leslie_JnJs_mom -> RE: All of these Libruls! (5/8/2008 9:53:17 PM)
I come on here now and then to voice my opinion so here goes... I think President Bush has done the best job he could under the circumstances. His ratings are low but since a Democratic congress took over their approval rating went to a record low. I think what feeds the low approval rating of President Bush is the media who has hated him from day one. They are mad that Gore got caught trying to cheat and did not get away with it. They had that fit about the voting counts even though they worked as hard as they could to get the military vote thrown out. I do not agree with everything the President has done. I do think some things are just unavoidable though. I do not think there is anything he can do about the gas prices. If government could control what a private business does then this would not be a free country. The Democrats said they could change all that if they were in power. Well they got it and so far gas prices have gone higher. So far all they have done is complain and made a pain of themselves. They have control of the congress now that is the real power. The President has no power all on his own. He can not just go and change something he does not like without approval. Looking at the trouble the democrats stirred up over the judges he tried to appoint proves that. I have heard conservatives say they do not like Bush because he did not do away with abortion. It is not that simple. He cannot just say i do not like that so it is gone. He did go after partial birth abortion but planned parenthood took that one straight to court. I am not sure what happened from there. Others hate him for the war in Iraq. He did not go to war all on his own. The senate voted for it both sides. They all saw the same stuff President Bush saw and voted for it. Now that it did not turn out as well as they had hoped it is all the Presidents fault. [8\|] Give me a break! Talk about a bunch of sniveling little people who want someone else to blame when things do not turn out well. I do think the President is tired. I would be! I think he is going to retire and try to live in peace.

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