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RedStone -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (8/1/2007 3:19:45 PM)

Actually, Planet Earth is teeming with non-humans. I'm not sure why there might be confusion on that point for any Bible student. Whatever trickery or mis-direction they may choose to use in how they manifest themselves...whether through so-called UFOs or in some sort of outlandish "alien" form (as some claim to have observed) is all secondary.

For those who may be interested in reports from government insiders on the extent of any interaction...there is something called "Project Disclosure". The organization is headed by a Dr. Steven Greer.

In May of 2001 they held a major press conference at the National Press Club to publish the names of over 500 government whistle-blowers who were coming forward with testimony regarding "ET encounters". About 25 of them were selected that morning to speak briefly of their particular experiences. I was fairly impressed to hear each of them say at the end of their testimony-- "And I am willing to testify under oath before Congress...". Here are a couple of Project Disclosure's videotaped testimonies. You can also watch the entire press conference on Google video, obviously.



rhippie -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (8/1/2007 4:21:41 PM)

Personally I don't believe that there is life outside the planet Earth. What I read in Scripture tells me that:

A. When Adam and Eve sinned all of creation was affected and fell

B. When Christ was crucified that sacrifice was for all of Creation

Now I may just be a simple person but I don't understand how if Christ lived and died on Planet Earth the dude living in the Andromeda galaxy was able to hear about it. Is it possible that I'm wrong? Yeah....just not highly probable



cherokeehippie -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (8/6/2007 1:19:12 AM)

I've been studying this stuff for 2 or 3 years now. I went to Ancient of Days conference in Roswell a few years ago--a christian conference on the topic of ufos, 'aliens', etc. Here's a link to an interesting site!
www.alienresistance.org

and here's a link to a list of christian websites and other sites in info on the topic.
http://www.alienresistance.org/roswellufolinks.htm

I believe that 'aliens'--the big headed slant eyed grey, and others are demonic and I believe that they live under the earth. I remember when I was real little--in the early 70's and seeing pictures of the grey, and I just knew it was demonic--it frightened me to see it's image.

What's interesting is Mike Heiser's teaching(He's a Hebrew scholar) on the serpent in the Garden. You can find a link to Mike's website on the second link I gave. I want to say more, but will wait for now.



cherokeehippie -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (8/6/2007 1:23:08 AM)

http://www.michaelsheiser.com/



Jimbo71111 -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (8/6/2007 7:40:39 AM)

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I believe that 'aliens'--the big headed slant eyed grey, and others are demonic and I believe that they live under the earth.


wow.



df74 -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (8/6/2007 10:27:58 AM)

i don't believe in aliens. here is a good link....



df74 -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (8/6/2007 10:29:37 AM)

here is the link http://bible.com/bibleanswers_result.php?id=234



cherokeehippie -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (8/6/2007 3:47:52 PM)

Yeah, when I was little--this was before I was a christian(and none of my family knew the Lord), I remember we would go to ruidoso NM(where my mom's folks had a summer home)--Ruidoso is about an hour or so away from Roswell--that whole area--I love New Mexico, but I've always felt a creepy feeling in the area. I never knew what it was, but felt that there was something sinister in the spiritual realm--. My mom and dad met in Ruidoso NM. My dad was murdered when I was 7--I never knew him, he and mom split up when I was a baby. My dad's dad used to be chief of police in Ruidoso,. and then was security for the Nasa program at White Sands Missile range. White Sands is west of Ruidoso. He got to meet all the astronauts who were training to go to the moon--Armstrong, etc. I now wonder what he had seen or known. White Sands, along with Fort Bliss in Tx, south of NM, and Los Alamos are some the places that nazi scientists were sent to, under Operation Paperclip. After WWII, instead of sending them to prison, we(the US) sent hundreds of Nazi scientists over here, to work for our rocket program, etc. I just saw a program about that on PBS a month ago. There was a Jewish concentration camp survivor who talked about how he was one of the prisoners working under Werner Von Braun--thousands of Jewish concentration prisoners worked under Von Braun and died under him. Yet, we brought him over here and he became a space program hero![:@] Talking about rockets, there is another rocket scientist--Jack Parsons, one of the founders of the JPL and who has a crator on the moon named after, who was an occultist. He was a follower of the satanist Aleister Crowley, and he and Ron Hubbard(the Scientogy founder) with a woman, went out in the Mojave desert to perform a sex ritual--to call forth on earth the Harlot of Babylon. This was called the babalon working. this happened in 1946, the year before Roswell. Many of the nazi scientists were also occultists. If you study closely the background of Nasa history, you'll find weird stuff. Buzz Aldrin is a 33 degree mason and did a masonic ritual on the moon. Just some background to get yall thinking! I don't think the Roswell crash was a mogul balloon. Neither do I think it was aliens from another planet. I believe that either it was something that fallen angels made, or a craft that did nazi like experiements on disfigured japanese patients. If our military was involved in nazi like experiements on humans, they would try their best to keep it hidden, by threatening locals--threating to kill them and their families if they speak about what they saw(the roswell crash). Something crashed. I have some cousins on my grandfather's side who live in Corona!!!(where the crash happened--closer to Corona, than Roswell), anyway...



cherokeehippie -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (8/6/2007 4:08:43 PM)

Oh yeah, my grandfather wouldn't talk about ufos, but my grandmother did--she believed ufos were connected somehow to the government. I believe that there is a luciferian element--a shadow government--and they are in cahoots with fallen angels and fallen angels gave them secret technology(oh yeah, I believe fallen angels and demons are two different entities. They are not the same. I also wonder if maybe reptilians are a different entity in itself--the Hebrew word for serpent in Genesis in the Garden is a different word from a regular snake. Rabbis said it was an upright walking creature. I wonder, if it was a creature that God made, and as a result of the fall, was banished to underground---just a theory--I remember watching "Land of the Lost", a children's saturday morning program back in the 70's--that was set in a prehistoric land--and they had these red eyed reptilians and those things scared the daylights out of me!! In UFOlogy, there are 4 kinds of 'aliens'. The grey, the reptilan, praying mantis, and the Nordics. I beleive that the whole ufo thing is leading up to the antichrist and end times. I don't believe in a pretribulation rapture. I believe in being on the safe side of believing that we may very well have to go thru the tribulation but it's by His Grace that we will go thru it. He will give us the supernatural ability to endure, and He will provide--and if we go thru beng martyred, then, we will have a crown of martyrtom!! It will be a time of testing, too. I rather be prepared,(even by studying this 'weird' stuff, ) than to have my head in the sand and caught unawares. Also, in Revelation, some of those creatures--like the ones like scorpions, with lion faces, etc, may very well be some of the creatures coming up from the earth--not symbolic, helicopters, etc, but literal.



Jimbo71111 -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (8/6/2007 5:14:00 PM)

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I believe in being on the safe side of believing that we may very well have to go thru the tribulation but it's by His Grace that we will go thru it.


That is what counts, and as for the rest of it, does it really matter?



cherokeehippie -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (8/6/2007 5:58:20 PM)

Well, look at it, this way, how are we to minister to those who believe the lie that 'aliens' were our creators??? Not very many christians are aware of the false teaching put out by people like Zechariah Ztichan, etc. Because many have their heads in the sand on the subject of 'aliens' and UFos, etc, they are incapable to witness to New agers, and minister to those who are having 'abductions', etc. I believe that there is more than one component involved in the whole ufo thing. I haven't even touched on the Genesis 6:4 issue, or the abduction topic.



Jimbo71111 -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (8/6/2007 7:25:25 PM)

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Well, look at it, this way, how are we to minister to those who believe the lie that 'aliens' were our creators???


Personally, I have never known anyone who believed that aliens were our creators, though I'm sure they exist. We should witness to them just as we would to any other unsaved person.
Hindus believe in over 2,000 dieties, Muslims believe in a false prophet, Buddhists believe in a false god and Jews don't believe the Messiah has come yet. Would it really be so different to approach a person who believes aliens were our creator than one who believes that our ancestors are reincarnated into animals?
I don't have to believe in spirit filled animals or in extraterrestrials walking among us to spread the word to those who do believe such things.



cherokeehippie -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (8/6/2007 8:49:59 PM)

I don't believ in ET's, but I do believe these are demonic beings--they do exist, but they are not ET's! I believe that many christians, especialy on this board, have been in an insulated bubble, and have become infective witnesses--especially those who don't believe in casting out demons, etc or ministering to people who suffer from demonic attacks (demonic attacks in dreams, etc). They also are unaware of how real and tangible, the LORD, and the other side is. They trhink it's all off in la-la land and that the physical world is all that there is. They aren't aware of how different the church is in third world countries who do believe that the spriit world is real and take action to bring deliverence to those demonically oppressed(here in America, most will just think one is mentally ill and ship them off to a hospital) I believe that the american church has really become ineffective(focusing rather on politics--rather than being that effective witness to the world--no wonder new age stuff has become so popular in the US--I believe it is because many churches has become ineffective and insgtead of being useful for the Kingdom--many have become pharisees) It doesn't surprise me that many don't know who Zechariah Ztichen is, and they focus more on a fictional book--Harry Potter, than refuting Zechariah Sitchen--so many christians, are so unininform, and still in a cheesy 1970's mindset, thinking the only deception ufos wil have is thinking that the world's view on the rapture will be on thinking ufos abducting christians. There is more to that, than that cheesey idea. That is sooooo old school!!! I believe that no, the rapture will not occur before before the tribulation. It will hapen right at the end ot tribulation. I believe that these creatures do exist--and there are accounts of people who when going thru an abduction experience, or seeing a reptilian in their room, etc, cried out Jesus, etc, these creatures disappeared!! These creatures are not aliens and they are not just some sci-fi made up thing. In fact, much science fiction is actually ancient pagan mythology wrapped up in a different package. The fallen angels, nephilim, of old, disquised as 'gods' to th nations in ancient times, are still around--and deceiving people in thinking they are aliens and their creators. I believe that high people in high places actually worship these beings--not just leftist hippie types, but people in military, republican, etc., too.



cherokeehippie -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (8/6/2007 9:00:03 PM)

I'm not afraid of reaidng books on Roswell, etc. I come with an open mind(but COVERED in the Blood ;) I can see between the lines of these books, etcf, and see what is really going on. Why is the gov. hiding stuff???? Because someone in high places know who they are dealing with--fallen angels--and knowing that there are many christians in the US, they won't come out in the open abougt the truth. The shadow Goverment---the ones following satan--high level freemasons, etc, keep this stuff in the dark. Jesus said that there will be a day that every thing hidden in the dark, will be uncovered and revealed in the light. There will be a day when the Lord will uncover what is in secret--the hidden shadow gov. This present world is under satan's control--literally!!! That means that the shadow gov. really controls the strings of our known gov., etc...and the whole world, uintil when Jesus returns.



cherokeehippie -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (8/7/2007 6:07:54 AM)

oooh!! Here is a link to a book that is coming out soon, that is going to go into the occult background of NASA!!
http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Mission-Secret-History-Nasa/dp/1932595260/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-7433983-6868959?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186481132&sr=8-1



Jimbo71111 -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (8/7/2007 7:35:03 AM)

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oooh!! Here is a link to a book that is coming out soon, that is going to go into the occult background of NASA!!


It may be easier in these threads to discuss public figures who are not Satanists and institutions which are not controlled by the occult, as it appears from these postings that precious few of either exist.



cherokeehippie -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (8/7/2007 9:31:42 PM)

Here's an online video of Mike Heiser!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7203979386249043462



cherokeehippie -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (4/18/2008 8:24:44 PM)

Oh they exist alright...right under our noses...satanists and satanic organizations and big corporations run by those in hte occult, etc...especially ...I belive that just as Jesus said that satan would plant tares in the Kingdom...that satan has his own cronies disquised as christians in the church!!! It is denial that this stuff isn't so. It's weird but I'm real sensitive on things, gift of discernment I guess...I pick up if someone is ....lets just say I found that just as I have to pray for the Lord to cover and protect me out in the world,...I have to do the same when going to a church, or going online on a christian forum, etc.



glimmerinthedark -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (4/28/2008 8:39:26 PM)

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0 [sm=eek.gif]



Pat-rebel_lady -> RE: Thoughts On Aliens... (5/4/2008 11:30:17 AM)

In the News:

Denver man seeks support for citywide panel on space aliens
11 hours ago (this morning - May 4, 2008)

DENVER — A Denver man who wants the city to be prepared for space aliens is proposing a commission to deal with the matter.

HERE

(Opinion and/or what to think?? It leaves me [sm=icon_smile_question.gif]) [sm=rollingeyes.gif]



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