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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/13/2007 7:40:47 PM
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I love this show. There are SO MANY memorable lines!!!!
When the owner of the prune factory failed to convince Barney to marry his homely daughter, even with the promise of half interest in the business and a company car, Barney relates to Andy that they sent her off to a "re-finishing" school, where they slim 'em down. fix 'em up and teach 'em to walk with a book on their head:
Andy: "Turned out beautiful, huh?"
Barney: "Nah, she's still single, ugly, and pitting prunes."
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/13/2007 9:47:34 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks Andy really screwed up when he decided to settle down and court Helen Crump? After spiriting gorgeous foxes like Ellie Walker and Peggy and such, he gets the homely schoolteacher who, let's face it, pitched a royal fit over the slightest misunderstanding, and was more than willing to believe the absolute worst at the drop of a hat.
This same characteristic was evident with Thelma Lou.
Of course it made for some funny episodes, but I would have shown them the door long ago!
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/14/2007 7:04:43 AM
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ORIGINAL: tafkam
Am I the only one who thinks Andy really screwed up when he decided to settle down and court Helen Crump? After spiriting gorgeous foxes like Ellie Walker and Peggy and such, he gets the homely schoolteacher who, let's face it, pitched a royal fit over the slightest misunderstanding, and was more than willing to believe the absolute worst at the drop of a hat.
This same characteristic was evident with Thelma Lou.
Of course it made for some funny episodes, but I would have shown them the door long ago!
Nope. I agree with you. I was always pulling for Ellie!
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/14/2007 12:47:11 PM
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ORIGINAL: tafkam
Am I the only one who thinks Andy really screwed up when he decided to settle down and court Helen Crump? After spiriting gorgeous foxes like Ellie Walker and Peggy and such, he gets the homely schoolteacher who, let's face it, pitched a royal fit over the slightest misunderstanding, and was more than willing to believe the absolute worst at the drop of a hat.
This same characteristic was evident with Thelma Lou.
Of course it made for some funny episodes, but I would have shown them the door long ago!
I liked Peggy best, with Ellie as a close second.
I always wondered why the women left the show. Did they have other projects or were they just written out of it?
I can't recall Andy ever saying goodbye to any of them.
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/14/2007 1:14:10 PM
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I seem to recall reading that they were written out because the producers felt there was no chemistry between them and Andy.
What they saw in the Andy/Helen relationship is beyond me.....
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/14/2007 2:04:08 PM
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Peggy had the cutest accent!!
"Aaa-yaaan-dy, yore aaaaahhhh!" (It's hard to type "Andy, your eye!!!" with an accent."
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/14/2007 4:22:19 PM
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ORIGINAL: tafkam
I seem to recall reading that they were written out because the producers felt there was no chemistry between them and Andy.
What they saw in the Andy/Helen relationship is beyond me.....
I did some digging online and found out that is why Ellie was written out of the show.
I don't know about Peggy. I wonder if it had something to do with her real life marriage to Ryan O'Neal? (Her name was Joanna Moore and she was the mother of Tatum and Griffen O'Neal).
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Peggy had the cutest accent!!
"Aaa-yaaan-dy, yore aaaaahhhh!" (It's hard to type "Andy, your eye!!!" with an accent."
That was a real accent- she was from Georgia. She passed away in 1997.
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/14/2007 4:56:41 PM
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I just read her bio. What a sad, sad life. 
I had no idea she had been married to Ryan O'Neal and was Tatum's mother. That's really interesting.
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/14/2007 5:04:08 PM
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I always liked Eleanor Donahue. But then I always liked Father Knows Best.
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/14/2007 9:55:34 PM
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ORIGINAL: tafkam
Am I the only one who thinks Andy really screwed up when he decided to settle down and court Helen Crump? After spiriting gorgeous foxes like Ellie Walker and Peggy and such, he gets the homely schoolteacher who, let's face it, pitched a royal fit over the slightest misunderstanding, and was more than willing to believe the absolute worst at the drop of a hat.
This same characteristic was evident with Thelma Lou.
Of course it made for some funny episodes, but I would have shown them the door long ago!
I agree that Helen could be manipulative and prone to temper, but I disagree with the "homely" part. While not particularly sexy, she was pretty.
I thought that Thelma Lou was beautiful. She suffered from a lack of confidence, probably because she never had a last name (at least until she got married).
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/16/2007 2:27:14 PM
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ORIGINAL: tafkam
I seem to recall reading that they were written out because the producers felt there was no chemistry between them and Andy.
What they saw in the Andy/Helen relationship is beyond me.....
From The Andy Griffith Show, by Richard Kelly
After confirming Tafkam's recollection that the others had no chemistry with Andy, the author writes:
"...Helen Crump solved the show's problem with women. She was attractive, intelligent, warm-hearted, sensitive, and always very proper. Unlike Ellie, she was never aggressive and threatening to Andy's masculine superiority. And unlike Joanna Moore, she was not a sexual creature who needed to be dealt with in romantic terms. She was Andy's "girl". but she could have been his sister. There was some talk among the staff that Andy Taylor ought to get married to Helen, but each time the subject came up Knotts would remind Griffith of what happened to Mr. Peepers, and Griffith would stand fast against marriage."...
"The real "marriage" of course, on the Griffith Show was between Andy and Barney, who in many respects were the original odd couple."
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/17/2007 11:21:30 AM
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35. Andy and the Woman Speeder
Andy, Barney, Opie and Floyd are getting in the car after a fishing trip when a pretty woman speeds by in a convertible going doing 70 mph in a 40 mph zone. When her smile and charm fail to deter Andy from giving her a ticket, she demands to see the justice of the peace, where, of course, she winds up in front of Andy.
Side note: The creators of the show originally intended to make Andy Sheriff, Justice of the Peace, and newspaper editor. They ditched the editor before production, and gradually wrote the JP role out.
The lady, a magazine writer from Washington, DC, has the gall to think that the JP and the arresting officer being the same person is unfair. She picks up a couple of other fines, one for contempt and one for the dreaded "robe offending". Rather than pay, she opts to be locked up in until Mayor's Court convenes. (the concept of bail or other pre-trial release is still a foreign concept in Mayberry).
The lady decides to defend herself after this hilarious exchange:
Andy: "We have some fine lawyers here in Mayberry, what about Rafe Peterson, Barney."
Barney: "Last I heard he was selling aluminum siding, but there's Hollis Williford, he don't start umpiring ball games until June."
The lady prisoner, as she is now called, works her feminine wiles on Andy's three "witnesses". She butters up Floyd like an eggo waffle, gives Opie an autographed baseball, and charms Barney with comparisons between him in Frank Sinatra.
Lady prisoner: " Oh, have other women told you that you have a remarkable resemblance to Frank Sinatra."
Barney: "No ma'am, but I've noticed it myself."
Even though Barney and Floyd saw her speed, including when Andy was clocking her speed while overtaking her, all the witnesses waffle while the Mayor is a hoot, just looking for a reason to dismiss.
side note 2: Things are again different in Mayberry. In real life an officer doesn't need supporting witnesses on a speeding ticket. And the Mayor plays fast and loose with procedure, first letting the defense call witnesses first (improper), then the prosecution.
For some reason, Andy gives up without testifying, and the charge is dismissed.
A very moving moment when Andy says to the Lady:
"Well, congratulations. You've managed to cheat justice, make a mockery of this court, and turn three people against me that I thought would never leave my side. Oh, I can see a litttle boy's head being turned by a shiny new baseball, but I'm disappointed in Floyd, and I'm real disappointed in Barney. He's a law officer, and ought to know better."
The shamed speeder is then given the cold shoulder by an embarrassed Floyd and Barney, then deliberately speeds out of town. Our boys chase her down, and she pays the original fines.
Lessons learned.
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/18/2007 12:18:55 AM
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I do like the fact that in the end she admits she was wrong.
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/18/2007 11:27:59 PM
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36. Mayberry Goes Bankrupt
The Maybery City Council (this month's version) orders Andy to evict Frank Myers, a sweet old man who can't pay the taxes or mortgage on his run-down house.
Frank (named to honor the show's production manager) has fallen on hard times because his business, making berries for women's hats, is in a prolonged slump. Andy reluctantly and gently tells him he must leave.
Opie's questions lead Andy and Aunt Bee to invite Frank to stay with them for a while. It is a neat scene where Andy is playing sad music, then plays an upbeat song on his guitar when they make the decision to help Frank.
While showing his "valuables" to Andy and Opie, Frank finds a 100 year old bond issued by Mayberry. It turn out that the $100.00 bond, thanks to the magic of compound interest, is now worth about $350,000.00.
Frank is thrilled and begins ordering things to spruce up his house. The council (great guys) make Andy tell Frank that they can't pay, the town just doesn't have that much money (the current treasury is $10,000.00).
Andy comes up with the idea of the town fixing up Frank's house as a partial payment. Just as they finish making the house beautiful, it dawns on them that it was a Confederate bond, and thus worthless. The Councilmen, who have done all the work, begin to turnagainst Frank, but Andy's fast talking saves the day and all ends well.
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/20/2007 6:18:50 PM
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37. Barney On The Rebound
In my opinion, the second funniest episode so far (after Opies Charity)
Barney and Thelma Lou fight after Barney goes gaga over a new girl in town. He gives her a police escort across the street to the post office, then shows her around. During the ensuing fight, Andy turns his back on the feuding couple and makes little comments to Barney: "I believe I'll stay out of this"; "I'd change the subject if I were you, Barn."; "It's too late to change the subject now."
Barney ends up at Melissa's house for supper (with her supposedly well off Daddy). By the second date Melissa is turning off the lights (to cool the room) and snuggling up to Barney. She twists his words into a proposal and the next thing you know the pending nuptials are in the newspaper gossip column.
With Andy's help, Barney makes up with Thelma Lou, coming back as "a sadder, but wiser man." Barney saunters into the courthouse with that cocky look he gets just as everything is about to hit the fan, and finds that Melissa and her Daddy are about to sue him for breach of promise.
Andy reads the situation quickly, and in lieu of a cash settlement, begins the marriage ceremony. Melissa objects to marrying a "squirt", and Andy reveals how he figured out that Melissa and Daddy were really husband and wife con artists. He orders them out of town.
Hilarious scene at the end where Andy walks into Thelma Lou's darkened living room, and interrupts the make-up session. When he turns the light on, Barney's hair is wildly askew and there is lipstick all over his face as he primly holds a cup of coffee.
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/21/2007 10:27:26 AM
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38. Opie's Hobo Friend
Buddy Ebsen (Jed Clampett, Barnaby Jones) guest stars as a charming drifter who Andy and Opie meet while fishing.
With his "magic fish talk" and ability to get free gumballs, he and Opie become friends.
Barney keeps arresting the hobo, named Dave (Browne,with an "e") on various charges. This leads to Dave's great line: " I can't help it sheriff, if I move I'm a vagrant, if I stand still I'm loitering".
Andy puts Dave to work (so to speak) at his house, but Opie begins to pick up on Dave's laid back philosopy: "Never stint on the preparation stage, that's the most important part of any job." and "Tomorrow is the best day to start any job."
Finally, Opie plays hooky, at about the same time that a chicken and an apple pie go missing. This leads Andy to have a heart to heart with Dave about the proper way to raise children and how difficult it will be to undo what Dave has done.
A funny exchange at Dave's shack when Andy asks about the fried chicken. Dave: "That poor bird, somebody ran over him, I tried to get the license plate, but it was too fast." Andy; "Who ran over the pie?".
Next we see, Barney is hauling in Dave for stealing Aunt Bee's purse. Opie is dejected and disillusioned that Dave would steal from Aunt Bee, and gives Dave back the "golly warbler" fishing lure that Dave had made him.
When they are alone, Andy lets Dave know that he knew that Aunt Bee had thrown the purse out, and sends Dave on to catch the 3:15 train when it stops for water.
Funny ending scene where Barney is furious and throws his "how to" magic book in the trash because Opie can do the tricks better than he can.
One of the better "morality" episodes - well acted, written and directed.
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/21/2007 11:43:59 AM
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39. Crime-Free Mayberry
(Trying not to get too far behind with my posts, since I forget easily.)
A fake FBI agent and his fake photographer accomplice set out to rob the Mayberry bank. The strategy is to get the town and the sheriff to town hall for an awards ceremony honoring the town, Andy, and Barney for Mayberry being the "most crime free town in America".
Lots of funny moments, such as
- Andy telling folks that he and Barney don't want any medals, while Barney is picking them out; "Don't you have anything bigger than this, Fred."
- Barney trying to get his "fast draw" successfully captured on film: "All they've been able to get so far is a blur."
- Floyd luring tourists off the New Orleans bus and charging them a quarter to tour the jail.
- Barney singing Andy a song ("they've written a song about us") about them and their exploits, set to the tune of Frankie and Johnny.
Andy: "whoever gave you that song wrote it as a joke."
Barney: "I did not".
- The hilarious barber shop scene where Andy is describing how he caught a "carp", stunned him with an ax, strung him up, and had Barney take his picture.. The lady reporter from Raleigh thought Andy was talking about a person.
Reporter: "Mayor Pike! Did you know this man killed a Carp in cold blood?"
Mayor Pike: "I suspect Andy has killed many a carp, and I hope he kills a lot more of them. We just don't like them around her."
Reporter: "Well, I've never heard of such a thing."
Mayor Pike: "You mean you wouldn't kill a carp where you come from?"
Reporter: "Of course not, no more than we would kill a Pike." (she storms out)
Andy: "Well there's city folks for you. They couldn't have picked two more ornery fish to protect."
Of course, Andy figures out the plot and is waiting in the vault when the "photographer" cracks the safe. He congratulates the thief on opening the safe, since the town has given up on it as the combination was lost and the company has gone out of business (so the bank just cut in a back door).
The ending shows Andy sneaking up behind Barney as Barney is singing another ballad he has written to honor them (to the tune of My Darling Clementine).
Over Barney's shoulder, Andy sings:
 Oh my Barney, oh my Barney
had a jail and couldn't lock it.
Had one bullet for his pistol,
had to keep it in his pocker.
Funny, funny stuff.
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/21/2007 11:46:01 PM
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38. Opie's Hobo Friend
Buddy Ebsen (Jed Clampett, Barnaby Jones) guest stars as a charming drifter who Andy and Opie meet while fishing.
With his "magic fish talk" and ability to get free gumballs, he and Opie become friends.
Barney keeps arresting the hobo, named Dave (Browne,with an "e") on various charges. This leads to Dave's great line: " I can't help it sheriff, if I move I'm a vagrant, if I stand still I'm loitering".
Andy puts Dave to work (so to speak) at his house, but Opie begins to pick up on Dave's laid back philosopy: "Never stint on the preparation stage, that's the most important part of any job." and "Tomorrow is the best day to start any job."
Finally, Opie plays hooky, at about the same time that a chicken and an apple pie go missing. This leads Andy to have a heart to heart with Dave about the proper way to raise children and how difficult it will be to undo what Dave has done.
A funny exchange at Dave's shack when Andy asks about the fried chicken. Dave: "That poor bird, somebody ran over him, I tried to get the license plate, but it was too fast." Andy; "Who ran over the pie?".
Next we see, Barney is hauling in Dave for stealing Aunt Bee's purse. Opie is dejected and disillusioned that Dave would steal from Aunt Bee, and gives Dave back the "golly warbler" fishing lure that Dave had made him.
When they are alone, Andy lets Dave know that he knew that Aunt Bee had thrown the purse out, and sends Dave on to catch the 3:15 train when it stops for water.
Funny ending scene where Barney is furious and throws his "how to" magic book in the trash because Opie can do the tricks better than he can.
One of the better "morality" episodes - well acted, written and directed.
I don't remember this episode.
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/23/2007 3:02:47 PM
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Of the many "lovable drifters", Buddy Ebsen was my favorite.
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/23/2007 3:17:30 PM
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40. The Perfect Female
Thelmas Lou's attractive cousin comes to town and Barney sets out to play matchmaker. He and Thelma Lou "cleverly" get them together at the coffee shop. Stealth is necessary because Andy has been burned by Barney's blind date fix-ups before, the last one looked like Ben Franklin.
I didn't find Karen especially fetching, but Andy warms up to her, taking her crow shooting (where she somehow, with shotguns, shells and shooting everywhere, just can't manage to work the fact that she is a champion skeet shooter into the conversation).
Karen has dinner with the Taylor family, where she "passes muster" by liking kids, music and gooseberry pie. Barney, as usual, twists Andy's word around and angers Karen. Instead of asking Andy about it, or ignoring it (she is just visiting, after all), Karen decides to enter a skeet shooting match to embarrass Andy.
She wins, but nice Andy apologizes to her.
I'm not really sure what the moral is. Perhaps it is obvious that this is not one of my favorites.
The end is funny. Karen hits five bottles with a pistol and when Barney attempts to show his "fast draw", he fires the gun before getting it out of his holster. He then strides up and knocks the other bottles off by hand.
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/24/2007 3:17:04 PM
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41. Aunt Bee's Brief Encounter
Aunt Bee is charmed by handyman Henry Wheeler, played by Edgar Buchannan (Uncle Joe on Petticoat Junction), when he stops to spray her roses.
Andy is also charmed, and is soon working his fingers to the bone while Henry squires Aunt Bee around town.
Andy gets suspicious when the postman, after meeting Wheeler, notes that he has very soft hands for a handyman. Andy calls the Mount Pilot sheriff and discovers that Mrs. Wheeler had moved in on a brother and sister up there and lived it up for a while.
I will note that this is not a crook or swindler on the make, just a nice, charming man who does (very little) work in return for a soft bed and some home cooked meals. Edgar Buchannan is perfect in this role.
Andy, while cleaning his shotgun, calls Wheeler "Uncle Henry", then comments on how things seem to be moving along well with Aunt Bee, and it may be time for Henry to talk seriously with her. As he snaps the gun shut, Andy says "I don't know what I would do to someone who hurt my Aunt Bee".
Mr. Wheeler is gone within 10 seconds. He doesn't even take his coat. Frances Bavier, showing her skill as an actress, makes a touching speech about what drifters lose by not settling down.
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/24/2007 3:21:28 PM
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40. The Perfect Female
Thelmas Lou's attractive cousin comes to town and Barney sets out to play matchmaker. He and Thelma Lou "cleverly" get them together at the coffee shop. Stealth is necessary because Andy has been burned by Barney's blind date fix-ups before, the last one looked like Ben Franklin.
I didn't find Karen especially fetching, but Andy warms up to her, taking her crow shooting (where she somehow, with shotguns, shells and shooting everywhere, just can't manage to work the fact that she is a champion skeet shooter into the conversation).
Karen has dinner with the Taylor family, where she "passes muster" by liking kids, music and gooseberry pie. Barney, as usual, twists Andy's word around and angers Karen. Instead of asking Andy about it, or ignoring it (she is just visiting, after all), Karen decides to enter a skeet shooting match to embarrass Andy.
She wins, but nice Andy apologizes to her.
I'm not really sure what the moral is. Perhaps it is obvious that this is not one of my favorites.
The end is funny. Karen hits five bottles with a pistol and when Barney attempts to show his "fast draw", he fires the gun before getting it out of his holster. He then strides up and knocks the other bottles off by hand.
If I remember correctly, Andy didn't give her too much of a chance to talk. The moral of the story is that one is seldom limited to what they can or can't do based on gender.
It's not my favorite, but I do like it.
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RE: Mayberry After Midnight - 9/24/2007 3:53:34 PM
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42. The Clubmen
(still catching up)
Andy is invited, by a well-to-do fishing buddy, to visit his exclusive men's club in Raleigh. Andy wrangles an invitation for Barney, and the boys plan for the big evening of meeting the membership committee.
Barney is so excited that he can't wait to tell the boys at the barbershop, and makes up an excuse to mention the visit, only to be ignored. It results in this funny exchange:
Andy: "Floyd, would you ask Barney about this club before he busts."
Floyd: "I'm not one to pry."
Barney: "Not one to pry! You're always asking me when I'm getting married and how much money do I send my mother each month."
Floyd: "Well, I've reformed."
Barney confides in Floyd that he is worried about the impression that Andy will make.
Our boys finally make it to the fancy club, where Barney blunders continually while trying to make a good impression. He only serves to show his ignorance with every new comment.
While Barney has Sarah hold the line open, waiting for the acceptance call, Andy's friend and another member come to the courthouse. They tell Andy that he is accepted unanimously, but Barney is not. Andy refuses, because Barney is more than someone who works for him, he is a friend. They part as friends, agreeing to still fish together.
Andy tries to break the news gently: "They accepted one of us."
Barney: "What are they, a bunch of snobs. I'd like to punch 'em all in the nose."
Andy: "Well Barney, they've got a right to have whoever they want in their club."
Barney: "Imagine, not accepting a nice guy like you."
Barney then storms off to write his letter of resignation from the club.
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