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I mean, I am kinda wondering how in the heck (like I said above) that masterbation became a god?? IN this case, I am curious as to how someone came up with that interpretation.

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i believe that we should have no gods before God (1st commandment). if masturbation has become a god (addiction, release through fantasy, etc...) in our life, then we must consider it a sin for us.

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if one's behavior is taking him away from God...he should then reassess what it is that he's doing and let God be God.

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1 Corinthians 6:12 NKJV, "All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any."

1 Corinthians 10:23 NKJV, "All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful; all things are lawful for me, but all things do not edify."

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Romans 6:14-23 NKJV, "For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under the law but under grace. [15] What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not! [16] Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether of sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness? [17} But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered. [18] And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness. [19] I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves of uncleanness, and of lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness. [20] For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. [21] What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. [22] But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. [23] For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

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ORIGINAL: dreamsofrealism

Masterbation....a god? How is this possible? When God said, "Thall shalt not have any other gods, before me" He meant idol worshippers....ie - Horace, Ra, etc. false gods

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ORIGINAL: WhatLoveIs

This gives information about "what lust is," "scriptures about lust," and "why lust is so horrible," according to the Bible. Go to:

http://www.porn-free.org/lust.htm

http://www.porn-free.org/lust_effects.htm

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No. Even though some lust does concieve & bring forth sin, not all lust is concieved and leads to outward actions.

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Therefore, just as Jesus said "don't lust" with your eyes, Philipians 4:8 makes Jesus's words about lust apply to our minds & hearts.

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I don't judge you. I do, however, find your logic suspect. There is both the Letter of the Law and the Spirit of the Law. Each is equally important. In my own faith walk I must obey both; it is the only way I can live with myself and my Savior.

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I do not mean to say that I have changed my views. To attack my logic is actually very silly. But I must apologize you and to the others who share your beliefs for being so darned judgemental and for coming off as far superior in my own faith walk. I struggle each and every day with my own demons. You are, each of you, my brothers in Christ. From now on I promise to tone it down a bit and to add a healthy dose of brotherly love to my responses.

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God bless and keep you Wolf, and all those whom you love.

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So lets apply that logic:

Lust = Adultry
Adultry = sin

Therefore: Lust = sin

Now since, Lust = sin

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Jam 1:14-25 MKJV But each one is tempted by his lusts, being drawn away and seduced by them. [15] Then when lust has conceived, it brings forth sin. And sin, when it is fully formed, brings forth death. [16] Do not err, my beloved brothers. [17] Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness nor shadow of turning. [18] Of His own will He brought us forth with the Word of truth, for us to be a certain firstfruit of His creatures. [19] Therefore, my beloved brothers, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath. [20] For the wrath of man does not work out the righteousness of God. [21] Therefore putting aside all filthiness and overflowing of evil, receive in meekness the implanted Word, which is able to save your souls. [22] But become doers of the Word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. [23] For if anyone is a hearer of the Word and not a doer, he is like a man studying his natural face in a mirror. [24] For he studied himself and went his way, and immediately he forgot what he was like. [25] But whoever looks into the perfect Law of liberty (grace) and continues in it, he is not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work. This one shall be blessed in his doing.

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Rom 6:12-18 MKJV Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. [13] Do not yield your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but yield yourselves to God, as one alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. [14] For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under Law, but under grace. [15] What then? Shall we sin because we are not under Law, but under grace? Let it not be! [16] Do you not know that to whom you yield yourselves as slaves for obedience, you are slaves to him whom you obey; whether it is of sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness. [17] But thanks be to our God that you were the slaves of sin, but you have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered. [18] Then being made free from sin, you became the slaves of righteousness.

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ORIGINAL: WhatLoveIs

So lets apply that logic:

Lust = Adultry
Adultry = sin

Therefore: Lust = sin

Now since, Lust = sin

"Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable - if anything is excellent or praiseworthy - think about such things."

Because God says "Think about such things" that means thinking about whatever isn't any of those "such things" is sin. ... Just as anything that isn't "Love the Lord thy God... Love thy neighbor as thy self" is also sin.

Now:

Is Lust "noble" in God's eyes, if "Lust = sin"? No.

Is Lust "right" in God's eyes, if "Lust = sin"? No.

Is Lust "lovely" in God's eyes, if "Lust = sin"? No.

Is Lust "admirable" in God's eyes, if "Lust = sin"? No.

Is Lust "excellent" in God's eyes, if "Lust = sin"? No.

Is Lust "praiseworthy" in God's eyes, if "Lust = sin"? No.

Therefore it is sin for us to think on and meditate lustfilled thoughts, regardless of whether "the object" is physically present, is not physically present but meditated on, or completely constructed from one's own imagination.

- Lust = sin.
- Any sin-filled thinking = a sin.
- Therefore, Lust-filled thinking = a sin, regardless of where the material comes from.

Futhermore, God says in His word that we are to "Be Ye holy, as I am Holy." That means we should think like God thinks. And, our Holy God thinks only Holy thoughts. (Holy means "to be seperate from sin.")

God does not meditate on sinful thoughts, neither should we, whether masturbating or not.

If God never lusts in his mind, regardless where the material comes from - neither should we.

It's time for us to put away these childish things of sin, as Paul wrote:
"When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me." (1 Cor. 13:11)

Paul also wrote:
"Therefore let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, from useless rituals ... and eternal judgement. And God permiting we will do so." (Hebrews 6:1-3)

Masturbation is a sign of spiritual immaturity. It's a useless ritual and a dead work that produces no fruit for God's kingdom.

It is time for every REAL Christian man to lay masturbation aside, and put the childish ritual of masturbation behind us.

And, Let's leave the elementary teaching & foundation of turning away from dead works and "useless rituals," like masturbation.

This isn't something that we really need to argue. This must be forsaken for Christ's sake & God's purposes.

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Masturbation is a sign of spiritual immaturity. It's a useless ritual and a dead work that produces no fruit for God's kingdom.

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This isn't something that we really need to argue. This must be forsaken for Christ's sake & God's purposes.

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I know you're kidding, but for reason's sake...

God is good.

God is not illegal, immoral, or fattening.

God is holy.

God never lusts in His thoughts, neither should we.

And, God encourages us through Paul's writings to lay aside dead works, and rituals that are fruitless ... which deffinately includes masturbation.

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Gal 5:17 Darby For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these things are opposed one to the other, that ye should not do those things which ye desire;

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And, God encourages us through Paul's writings to lay aside dead works, and rituals that are fruitless ... which deffinately includes masturbation.

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I am only at my best when I think of God.

With God in focus I think straight.

Without that, I can be just as carnal as the next guy, apart from God's grace.

The weight and pressure of sex always dims, as I lift my eyes and continually seek His face.

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It takes the fulfillment of one's sexual needs off of God, and puts it in the hands of self.

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ORIGINAL: WhatLoveIs

Masturbation does not glorify God.