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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 4/29/2008 11:37:44 AM
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manda59
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When they prescribee Reglan for that purpose, what's the dosage? I am just curious, because I have it prescribed for something else entirely.
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 4/29/2008 2:17:33 PM
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10-15mg 3 times a day for 3-4 weeks. I took 20mg 3 times a day because the doctor couldn't get his computer to have Reglan come up for increasing supply (15mg pills), so I got the dosage for nausea (10mg pills), but he said it would be fine to take 20mg at a time.
That's actually wrong according to ALL the LC's/LLL I've talked to and from online research. The dosage should be 10mg 3-4 times per day for 7 days, and then tapered off(to maintain supply) for the following 7 days. In PP women it should never be used for more then 2 weeks at a time, and it should only be used for 4 weeks total because of it's tendency to cause post partum depression and even psychosis.
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Reglan (Metoclopramide), a prescription drug available in the US and sometimes prescribed for low milk supply. Reglan is most effective at doses of 10-15 mg 3 times a day and should not be used for any longer than 2-4 weeks. If you have a history of depression, Reglan should be avoided due to its potential side effects of depression and mood swings
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 4/29/2008 3:16:21 PM
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My doc prescribed me 10mg of Metaclopramide up to 3 times a day for warding off my mega migraines, which start with nausea. I rarely have to take more than 1.
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 4/29/2008 5:51:23 PM
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10-15mg 3 times a day for 3-4 weeks. I took 20mg 3 times a day because the doctor couldn't get his computer to have Reglan come up for increasing supply (15mg pills), so I got the dosage for nausea (10mg pills), but he said it would be fine to take 20mg at a time.
That's actually wrong according to ALL the LC's/LLL I've talked to and from online research. The dosage should be 10mg 3-4 times per day for 7 days, and then tapered off(to maintain supply) for the following 7 days. In PP women it should never be used for more then 2 weeks at a time, and it should only be used for 4 weeks total because of it's tendency to cause post partum depression and even psychosis.
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Reglan (Metoclopramide), a prescription drug available in the US and sometimes prescribed for low milk supply. Reglan is most effective at doses of 10-15 mg 3 times a day and should not be used for any longer than 2-4 weeks. If you have a history of depression, Reglan should be avoided due to its potential side effects of depression and mood swings
From HERE.
No kidding? Well, that explains a lot. I had depression before I had kids, so it makes sense that it was so severe after I had Timmy. I remember feeling a little depressed while I took it for Jimmy, but I thought that was because I ran out of Percocet and was going through withdraw. Both doctors prescibed me the same amount and time.
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 5/1/2008 9:13:59 AM
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the person wasn't being ignorant  ....she was saying that for her and in that situation SHE was choosing to be lazy about nursing and leaning on formula. So that's not ignorance, it's knowing yourself and your own intentions and heart. While there is nothing wrong with doing that (formula feeding) in general, she felt it was wrong on her part because of where her heart was with it....she was NOT saying it as a general statement. Everything we Christians (or even just humans) do comes down to a heart issue....and just because someone admits that they have that issue with something that others find to be perfectly fine doesn't mean they are showing ignorance. Actually I think she was very prudent to assess that of herself and the situation.
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 5/1/2008 9:48:11 AM
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"lazy" is a term that tends to have self-indulgent (and thus derogatory) overtones.
I don't consider supplementing/fully feeding with formula to be a negative self-indulgent thing, and wouldn't want any mum to ever feel bad about doing so.
You know, we often feel different after each delivery, and if that mum considers that she is in a better frame of mind this time, and is able to 100% breastfeed, that's great. I just personally didn't like it that she put herself down - because I imagine that what she did before was actually what was right for her at the time.
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 5/1/2008 10:17:23 AM
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Let me clarify: I think there is a "general" perception that bottle feeding is caused by laziness. I haven't read the post y'all are referring to.
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 5/1/2008 11:45:46 AM
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If anything it should be the opposite. Making a bottle is more work than undoing a bra strap, KWIM? I got too lazy to bottle feed Jimmy in the middle of the night (for his gas/spit-up), so I ended up nursing him then again. And, I'm not calling nursing mothers "lazy". KWIM? I didn't see the post, but if she was referring to herself being too lazy to breastfeed, then that's just her. I doubt she meant that all bottle-feeding mothers got too lazy to nurse, just like because I got too lazy to bottle feed in the middle of the night doesn't mean that I'm implying nursing mothers are lazy because they don't wanna make bottles. I hope that makes sense.
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 5/1/2008 11:49:16 AM
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If anything it should be the opposite. Making a bottle is more work than undoing a bra strap, KWIM? I got too lazy to bottle feed Jimmy in the middle of the night (for his gas/spit-up), so I ended up nursing him then again. And, I'm not calling nursing mothers "lazy". KWIM? I didn't see the post, but if she was referring to herself being too lazy to breastfeed, then that's just her. I doubt she meant that all bottle-feeding mothers got too lazy to nurse, just like because I got too lazy to bottle feed in the middle of the night doesn't mean that I'm implying nursing mothers are lazy because they don't wanna make bottles. I hope that makes sense.
I hear ya!
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 5/2/2008 10:50:33 PM
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Manda and Laurain (and others), I just wanted to let you know that your posts about my post, yes it was me I have no problem admitting it, really hurt and made me cry. I know I'm a hormonal mom with a newborn right now but that was really hurtful. Sarah nailed it, I was ONLY talking about myself, I would never say someone else was lazy for their choice. I was trying to be open and honest about myself and my decision at the time. The reason why it was laziness on my part was because it WAS easier, much easier for me to mix a bottle than to nurse in public and I was out and about so much then that it negatively affected my milk supply. At the time I had enormous, pendulous breasts that caused me considerable pain and made it physically difficult to put my DS to breast. I chose to give formula because if I was out of the house it was easier for me to mix a bottle than to leave where I was and who I was with and what I was doing to try to find someplace private to nurse. I could have done it, I chose not to, that to me is laziness on my part.
I have no problem with formula feeding whether by neccesity or choice. My DS was BF/FF by choice, my DD was BF/FF by neccesity.
I just don't even know what else to say right now. I honestly am a little confused as to why my honest confession of my own fault was so offensive to some.
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 5/2/2008 10:54:26 PM
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Julie: I wasn't offended. I read your post in the other thread and understood what you were saying. I know you don't think all bottle feeders are lazy.
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 5/2/2008 11:29:38 PM
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I'm glad to hear that you understood. From my perspective it felt like I was being called ignorant.
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 5/3/2008 5:49:02 AM
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Julie
This was never meant to be a personal thing, and I am sorry you were upset after you'd read here.
What concerns me is when any mother puts themselves down for their choice over feeding.
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The reason why it was laziness on my part was because it WAS easier, much easier for me to mix a bottle than to nurse in public and I was out and about so much then that it negatively affected my milk supply. At the time I had enormous, pendulous breasts that caused me considerable pain and made it physically difficult to put my DS to breast. I chose to give formula because if I was out of the house it was easier for me to mix a bottle than to leave where I was and who I was with and what I was doing to try to find someplace private to nurse. I could have done it, I chose not to, that to me is laziness on my part.
Well, if a mother in that situation explained things to me and asked me my opinion, no way would I have said (or even thought) that she was being lazy. I'd say that she was doing what was right for her at the time (which to me is fine).
I don't know if you have read the rest of the responses in this thread, or whether you only read here because you happened upon the thread or someone pointed it out to you. But there are a number of women posting (and just reading) who have felt bad about their choice to bottle-feed, and some of this has been down to either direct or cloaked disapproval by others (page 4 is the place to read if you were interested).
Take care.
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 5/3/2008 6:21:49 AM
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manda59
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I'm glad to hear that you understood. From my perspective it felt like I was being called ignorant.
I took Laura's comment to mean that the general perception of supplementation/bottle feeding as laziness was ignorance.
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 5/3/2008 10:38:17 AM
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I'm glad to hear that you understood. From my perspective it felt like I was being called ignorant.
I took Laura's comment to mean that the general perception of supplementation/bottle feeding as laziness was ignorance.
Yes. I stated that in post 236. It is none of my business how other mothers feed their babies and my post was about the general perception that bottle feeding is lazy, not at all a commentary on Julie's choices. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.
I do, however, stand by my post that I believe there is a general attitude of disapproval that surrounds bottle feeding that, imo, is caused by ignorance.
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 5/3/2008 3:24:34 PM
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Thanks ladies. I do appreciate where you are coming from. I have been on both sides of the fence as both my first two were BF and then BF/FF and then exclusively FF, one by choice the other by neccesity. I know moms who are made to feel bad because they FF and are judged and I know ladies who are made to feel bad because they BF, unsupportive DH's, critical MIL's, friends who don't understand. One poor lady I talked to recently had a big baby and was told by her hospital nurses that her body would never make enough milk for a baby over 9lb and she should just FF right from the start. Sadness, all of it, ignorance can be found on both sides.
I do read both the Mama's Milk thread and this one regularly and I will continue to do so. I hope that you guys enjoy your weekend!
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 5/3/2008 3:27:38 PM
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Let me clarify: I think there is a "general" perception that bottle feeding is caused by laziness. I haven't read the post y'all are referring to.
LOl...that is the one perception of bottle feeding I have NEVER had...it is WAY WAY more work than breastfeeding is!!!!!!
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 5/3/2008 4:48:39 PM
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Julie, I wasn't at all offended by your statement, nor did I think you were trying to "put down" those who bottle feed. I understood completely what you meant, I've been there myself.
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 5/3/2008 6:51:47 PM
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I wonder if "they" are talking about the initial learning curve. On the due date board that I'm on on a different forum it seems like most of the moms who "try" BFing stop because it can be so difficult initially. It can be painful, sometimes it's hard to know if the baby is getting enough milk and that can be scary for a new mom, nursing in public can be daunting... mixing up a bottle of formula real quick is a lot easier at that stage.
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