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kohls356 -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (12/5/2007 5:21:09 PM)
I have been keeping up with this since it really hits close to home for me. I do not know the families like I said but my daughter knew both girls and her best friend is neighbors with both families and her family knows both families as well. I also know another woman who knew the Drew family. I hear things, that are not in the news, from people who do speak with the family. I really do feel for Lori Drew's daughter and somewhat for the employee. Her daughter as far as I know is living elsewhere and going to school elsewhere. Another one of my daughters knows their son and has classes with him. I truly feel for him as well because I believe he had nothing to do with this. His life will never be the same again because of the stupidity of his mother. I know the Drew's are being and have been harrassed but honestly I really can't summons up any sympathy for Lori Drew. I do not believe some of the statements her lawyer made on The Today show. From what I have heard from neighbors of Lori Drew she was home when the last message was sent and before the ambulance could even leave the Meier's home she was calling another girl who knew about this and making comments to not mention anything about Josh Evans. After watching the news conference from the prosecuting attorney I can see where there is no crime to charge her with but I think this is a step to make some laws. What that is I do not know I am not a lawyer. I really hope that the Meier family can eventually find peace with this because I am afraid it will just eat them alive, understandable, but for the sake of their younger daughter I hope they can move on. It is a shame that they lost their daughter, they are divorcing, and have no closure of this. All the while the person who started this is living down the street from the father. As far as thinking they aren't sane for destroying the foosball table. If that had been my daughter having had this done I am afraid I might have destroyed more than a foosball table. These were friends of the family. Can you imagine how you would feel finding out they did this and then realizing that those same people had asked to hide a gift for their children for Christmas. The nerve of those people. I really do not believe in the vigilante approach of things and the Meier's had asked for people not to do things because they would be blamed. I know the Drew's have had windows broken out and their house paintballed. I am not sure what else. I do not know if it was Meier's or others but it has happened, that is true. But those things can be repaired and the foosball table replaced, Megan is gone forever. I really don't blame the parents at all for taking an ax to the thing.

lw9 -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (12/5/2007 7:28:40 PM)
quote: StephK: She even has a blog called Megan Had It Coming. Is that really Lori Drew, though, or someone pretending to be her??? Has she publically admitted to putting up that blog. I would be interested to know.

BugLady -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (12/5/2007 7:35:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lw9 quote: StephK: She even has a blog called Megan Had It Coming. Is that really Lori Drew, though, or someone pretending to be her??? Has she publically admitted to putting up that blog. I would be interested to know. I would pose the same question. Not that I condone Drew's known bad behavior, but there does seem to be a rise in people impersonating others over the internet. Blogging about the whole sad story would seem extra foolish for Drew now that she's under such scrutiny. I would think any attorney would advise her against it. But then the fake myspace was foolish. So who knows with someone already prone to bad behavior?

cow451 -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (12/6/2007 10:01:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BugLady quote: ORIGINAL: lw9 quote: StephK: She even has a blog called Megan Had It Coming. Is that really Lori Drew, though, or someone pretending to be her??? Has she publically admitted to putting up that blog. I would be interested to know. I would pose the same question. Not that I condone Drew's known bad behavior, but there does seem to be a rise in people impersonating others over the internet. Blogging about the whole sad story would seem extra foolish for Drew now that she's under such scrutiny. I would think any attorney would advise her against it. But then the fake myspace was foolish. So who knows with someone already prone to bad behavior? If it was not her, it was someone with what seems to be an awful lot of detail. The blog is under investigation and we will likely find out the true source. Interestingly I have not seen an outright denial by Ms. Drew.

BugLady -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (12/7/2007 11:28:53 AM)
quote: Interestingly I have not seen an outright denial by Ms. Drew. She's probably been advised not to comment on anything. I read an article this morning from the AP that leads me to think the source of the blog is not Drew. Why is it the internet brings out the worst in some people? The world of psychiatry is going to have to come up with a whole new set of diagnoses for internet related mental illness. People who wouldn't otherwise harass another person seem to do it so freely over the internet. It's seems anonymity emboldens many people. What if there were laws in place that eliminated anonymity over the internet? What if that were possible? I think internet harassment reveals the cowardice deep inside a person. Obviously it's no less harmful to victims than being harassed in person. In some cases it's more harmful when the harasser is never positively identified. It can leave the victim in a constant state of vigilance impacting all their relationships and contacts with people.

leah777 -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (12/7/2007 12:14:27 PM)
On the local news this morning I heard that this city has actually passed an ordinance which will bring some consequences for this kind of behavior -- "The four-page measure defines both harassment and cyber-harassment, essentially making it illegal to engage in a pattern of conduct that would cause a reasonable person to suffer "substantial emotional distress," or for an adult to contact a child under 18 in a communication causing a reasonable parent to fear for the child's well-being." It's only for one small area, but at least it's a start, and maybe other, larger communities can develop even more from it.

cow451 -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (12/7/2007 1:08:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BugLady quote: Interestingly I have not seen an outright denial by Ms. Drew. She's probably been advised not to comment on anything. Denial of being the source of the blog would not be a problem. She could do this through her attorney.

BugLady -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (12/7/2007 1:12:50 PM)
quote: ...that would cause a reasonable person to suffer "substantial emotional distress" I know someone who has suffered "substantial emotional distress", yet no one person who was aware of what was going on has even acknowledged she was wronged. That makes it even worse for her. I think in order to curtail these kinds of wrongs we first have to determine the behavior is not to be tolerated. Too many people sit by the sidelines watching thinking it's all just a joke. It's funny to them. Anything that brings harm to another person is not funny. If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem. quote: Denial of being the source of the blog would not be a problem. She could do this through her attorney. Sure. But there's also the possibility she and her attorney are unaware of the blog.

gaylel1 -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (12/7/2007 5:41:31 PM)
quote: Why is it the internet brings out the worst in some people? Because there are people who want to take full advantage of vunable people who don't know any better.

cow451 -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (12/7/2007 6:23:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BugLady quote: ...that would cause a reasonable person to suffer "substantial emotional distress" I know someone who has suffered "substantial emotional distress", yet no one person who was aware of what was going on has even acknowledged she was wronged. That makes it even worse for her. I think in order to curtail these kinds of wrongs we first have to determine the behavior is not to be tolerated. Too many people sit by the sidelines watching thinking it's all just a joke. It's funny to them. Anything that brings harm to another person is not funny. If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem. quote: Denial of being the source of the blog would not be a problem. She could do this through her attorney. Sure. But there's also the possibility she and her attorney are unaware of the blog. A minuscule one

leah777 -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (12/7/2007 6:30:19 PM)
Her attorney, as I thought I'd mentioned earlier in this thread, has said that Drew denies the blog is hers or that she even has one. After such a violently negative reaction to it in the thousands of comments, I wouldn't blame her for denying responsibility for it. It does come across as being true -- very detailed . . . but who knows [&:]

dawgfan42 -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (12/8/2007 1:57:08 PM)
There are remedies to the situation of cyber-bullying. Change your screen-name-etc. IF that is too extreme file a violation of TOS with the provider. But yeah it is bad this kind of thing happens. I am trying to figure out how the bad mother got the depressed girls screen-name so easily.. It just seems that it was too easy.

Stimpy -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (12/8/2007 3:01:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: StephK I read about this yesterday and I would think there could be a law applied. One hard lesson I hope is learned is that the age restrictions for certain activities are there for a reason. What about something along the lines of "aiding and abetting <sp?>" or "contributing to the deliquency of a minor"? I'm like you, I figure there's got to be SOME charge they could file under. I heard the overview of this story on the local news, but it wasn't until I came here that I knew EXACTLY what lead her to kill herself, only that it involved a fake account.

Stimpy -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (12/8/2007 3:08:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Abbie_girl I have a MySpace account, but I forget to go to it. I think in the six months I've had it I've been to it three times. I have one too but haven't really done anything with it, so I haven't told many people about it either. I'll probably start a blog on it though, sorta like a cyber-journal. Currently, all I tend to get is a bunch of "friend requests" from women/girls wanting to use MY space (pun intended) to promote their lewd website. I still got "Tom" on my "friend's list" too. Boy is he popular. [:D]

leah777 -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (12/8/2007 8:12:26 PM)
quote: I am trying to figure out how the bad mother got the depressed girls screen-name so easily.. It just seems that it was too easy Her daughter had been friends with Megan. And Megan had spent some time at their house -- even going on vacations with them.

StephK -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (5/16/2008 1:11:40 AM)
The Wicked Witch of the Midwest has been indicted! quote: Alleged MySpace 'cyber-bully' indicted in teen's suicide Tom Gannam / Associated By Scott Glover, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer 12:34 PM PDT, May 15, 2008 A federal grand jury in Los Angeles today indicted a woman of fraudulently using a MySpace.com account to "cyber-bully" a Missouri teenager who later hanged herself because she believed she was being rejected by a 16-year-old boy she met on the social networking website. Lori Drew, 49, of O'Fallon, Mo., faces three counts of accessing protected computers without authorization to obtain information to inflict emotional distress on the girl and one count of conspiracy.

stampinlady -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (5/16/2008 3:51:05 PM)
PTL. I saw this on the news this morning and again I wondered how win the world a 49 year old mom could do something like this??????

BugLady -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (5/16/2008 10:53:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: StephK The Wicked Witch of the Midwest has been indicted! quote: Alleged MySpace 'cyber-bully' indicted in teen's suicide Tom Gannam / Associated By Scott Glover, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer 12:34 PM PDT, May 15, 2008 A federal grand jury in Los Angeles today indicted a woman of fraudulently using a MySpace.com account to "cyber-bully" a Missouri teenager who later hanged herself because she believed she was being rejected by a 16-year-old boy she met on the social networking website. Lori Drew, 49, of O'Fallon, Mo., faces three counts of accessing protected computers without authorization to obtain information to inflict emotional distress on the girl and one count of conspiracy. Answered prayer.

Roberta_ -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (5/17/2008 10:23:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BugLady quote: ORIGINAL: StephK The Wicked Witch of the Midwest has been indicted! quote: Alleged MySpace 'cyber-bully' indicted in teens suicide Tom Gannam / Associated By Scott Glover, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer 12:34 PM PDT, May 15, 2008 A federal grand jury in Los Angeles today indicted a woman of fraudulently using a MySpace.com account to "cyber-bully" a Missouri teenager who later hanged herself because she believed she was being rejected by a 16-year-old boy she met on the social networking website. Lori Drew, 49, of O'Fallon, Mo., faces three counts of accessing protected computers without authorization to obtain information to inflict emotional distress on the girl and one count of conspiracy. Answered prayer. I agree!

mapachito13 -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (5/18/2008 4:45:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: leah777 Her attorney, as I thought I'd mentioned earlier in this thread, has said that Drew denies the blog is hers or that she even has one. After such a violently negative reaction to it in the thousands of comments, I wouldn't blame her for denying responsibility for it. It does come across as being true -- very detailed . . . but who knows [&:] Isn't it ironic that the lady who posed as another is suffering the same fate? Sin is like a boomerang, it always comes back to smack you in the face!

mapachito13 -> RE: Girl commits suicide over fake myspace. (5/18/2008 4:57:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: StephK The Wicked Witch of the Midwest has been indicted! quote: Alleged MySpace 'cyber-bully' indicted in teen's suicide Tom Gannam / Associated By Scott Glover, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer 12:34 PM PDT, May 15, 2008 A federal grand jury in Los Angeles today indicted a woman of fraudulently using a MySpace.com account to "cyber-bully" a Missouri teenager who later hanged herself because she believed she was being rejected by a 16-year-old boy she met on the social networking website. Lori Drew, 49, of O'Fallon, Mo., faces three counts of accessing protected computers without authorization to obtain information to inflict emotional distress on the girl and one count of conspiracy. "Specifically, Drew is charged with one count of conspiracy and three counts of accessing protected computers without authorization to obtain information. The federal statute under which Drew is charged is more often used to prosecute defendants who have hacked into computers with the intent of causing damage or improperly accessed computers for financial gain, legal experts said. Rebecca Lonergan, a law professor at USC and former federal prosecutor in Los Angeles, said applying the statute in this case is a stretch." (Quote from LA Times Article) I hope they can stretch it far enough! If this doesn't work they should sue her civilly for being liable in their daughter's death. It worked for the Goldmans against OJ although he has deeper pockets to pick than this lady. Irregardless, she might lose all her finances defending herself against this federal lawsuit. Lawyers that work in federal cases charge loads more than in state or municipal criminal cases. Plus your local attourney needs to be specifically licensed to work a federal case.

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