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RE: A Matter of Color... Skin Color - One Stop Thread - 1/29/2008 2:57:10 PM
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rcjames
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I not only question your remarks which I would deem prejudiced. The definition of prejudice = unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, esp. of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group.
I also question if you are in Christ.
Dear 1withHim,
Sticks and stones and such.
How is it that you can be positive that everything MLK said, was said with absolute sincerity.
I cannot count him as a Prophet as you do because I think that adultery would disqualify a Prophet.
He led a good cause, but what he said he had a dream about (Not the color of skin but the content of heart) has not come to pass; And never will with quotas, affirmative action, and the present day poverty pimps (Jackson, Sharpton, and others) because that and they are all about color and not content of the heart..
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RE: A Matter of Color... Skin Color - One Stop Thread - 1/29/2008 3:12:40 PM
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RE: A Matter of Color... Skin Color - One Stop Thread - 1/29/2008 3:53:26 PM
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RE: A Matter of Color... Skin Color - One Stop Thread - 1/29/2008 4:41:37 PM
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But tell us how you really feel....you really don't like Dr. Martin Luther King, do you?
Don't hold back now...tell me...how do you feel about African Americans...do you associate with them...do you love them?
Are those questions making the generalization that the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. represents all African Americans, and that if I do not completly agree with everything that he said, I do not like ANY African Americans?
" Do you associate with them? love them? " Are you serious? Does "them" mean every single "person" ? by grouping all African Americans in a "them" category - isn't that racist also? Do I have to love every single person of a different race than mine just to not be called racist? That's backwards!
I wanted to ask that question without getting too much into the previous arguments because it seemed a little far fetched for me.
I would much rather have a more Christian view point on things. I know that God loves everyone, but it's one of my sins, that I simply just don't like every person that I meet, but as I growing Christian, I feel that I need to be more toleratant of people.
Lynn,
I am pretty much with you on perception here. The only thing I will say to you is that I don't like everyone either. I don't have to. I just have to love them. 
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RE: A Matter of Color... Skin Color - One Stop Thread - 1/29/2008 5:39:47 PM
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RE: A Matter of Color... Skin Color - One Stop Thread - 1/30/2008 6:26:16 PM
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" Do you associate with them? love them? " Are you serious? Does "them" mean every single "person" ? by grouping all African Americans in a "them" category - isn't that racist also? Do I have to love every single person of a different race than mine just to not be called racist? That's backwards!
For some reason, that reminded me of the argument - I can't be a racist, one of my best friends is black!
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RE: A Matter of Color... Skin Color - One Stop Thread - 1/30/2008 6:47:46 PM
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I totally didnt mean for my postings to sound like that though...to clarify (hopefully) I was referring to someone elses questions, where, from what I read, it sounding like he was saying that if you dont agree with the things that Martin Luther King Jr said then that is about the same as not liking ALL African Americans ... that didnt seem fair. That made it seem like if you are African American, you HAVE to believe/agree with every single thing that Martin Luther King said. What happens if you don't agree?
To be completly honest, I do not know everything thing that he said so I cannot say what that I agree with him on everything ( I am white though) The person that asked the questions (theres 2 sets of questions) that I was referring to, made it seem as though if you don't agree with everything that he said, then you are racists against all African Americans.
hypothetical situation:
So if I dont agree with you on something, does that mean that I am racists against all white canadians? (got that from the other posts ) nope. simply means that I don't agree with you.
(once again - that was an example - not for real )
so in summary - I didnt mean it as in a "but one of my friends is black" situation, I was just saying that by using his example, he was forcing everyone into a group based on color
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RE: A Matter of Color... Skin Color - One Stop Thread - 1/31/2008 11:26:39 AM
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I totally didnt mean for my postings to sound like that though...to clarify (hopefully) I was referring to someone elses questions, where, from what I read, it sounding like he was saying that if you dont agree with the things that Martin Luther King Jr said then that is about the same as not liking ALL African Americans ... that didnt seem fair. That made it seem like if you are African American, you HAVE to believe/agree with every single thing that Martin Luther King said. What happens if you don't agree?
To be completly honest, I do not know everything thing that he said so I cannot say what that I agree with him on everything ( I am white though) The person that asked the questions (theres 2 sets of questions) that I was referring to, made it seem as though if you don't agree with everything that he said, then you are racists against all African Americans.
hypothetical situation:
So if I dont agree with you on something, does that mean that I am racists against all white canadians? (got that from the other posts ) nope. simply means that I don't agree with you.
(once again - that was an example - not for real )
so in summary - I didnt mean it as in a "but one of my friends is black" situation, I was just saying that by using his example, he was forcing everyone into a group based on color
Very well said.
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RE: A Matter of Color... Skin Color - One Stop Thread - 2/1/2008 2:48:46 PM
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lexie
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LOL...I was just about to pm you to let you know that I responded about the mix-up.
I'm thinking...oh my, all these great conversations we've had in the other threads and now she thinks I'm a complete jerk!
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RE: A Matter of Color... Skin Color - One Stop Thread - 2/2/2008 1:59:04 PM
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Matt Smith
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And if he was serious, how come none of his follwoers seem to strive for the "Not by the color of their skin" thingy.
Just for the record: Race and racial justice are complex. They're complex enough for people to disagree on the best way forward.
We can all sit around and badmouth people who disagree with us:
"He doesn't seem to strive for the 'not by the color of their skin' thingy!"
"Oh yeah, well she doesn't seem to care about true equality!"
"Does not!"
"Does too!"
I'd like to think we can rise above that level of discussion.
Matt
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RE: A Matter of Color... Skin Color - One Stop Thread - 2/2/2008 6:53:41 PM
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lexie
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Christi, it looks like my daughter may have the same hair texture as yours. Hers is very curly and it's dry (my in laws say it's nappy)
I use the Soft and Beautiful Just For Me products.
I'll send you a pm with more info about what I use.
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RE: A Matter of Color... Skin Color - One Stop Thread - 2/3/2008 7:10:26 AM
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In another thread about stereotypes it was brought up by a balck person that they are stereotyped, not only by whites by by blacks as well, for "acting white".
Does this happen a lot? Do black people look down on other black people for speaking grammatically correct with good enunciation? For being educated?
Why are those traits..."white" traits?
I have actually seen this.
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RE: A Matter of Color... Skin Color - One Stop Thread - 2/4/2008 6:45:10 PM
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In another thread about stereotypes it was brought up by a balck person that they are stereotyped, not only by whites by by blacks as well, for "acting white".
Does this happen a lot? Do black people look down on other black people for speaking grammatically correct with good enunciation? For being educated?
Why are those traits..."white" traits?
I have actually seen this.
Good question and one that I've often wondered about.
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RE: A Matter of Color... Skin Color - One Stop Thread - 2/4/2008 7:16:42 PM
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solo_soprano22
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In another thread about stereotypes it was brought up by a balck person that they are stereotyped, not only by whites by by blacks as well, for "acting white".
Does this happen a lot? Do black people look down on other black people for speaking grammatically correct with good enunciation? For being educated?
Why are those traits..."white" traits?
I have actually seen this.
Yes they do. (I'm not talking about ALL black people of course.)
I'm the oreo because I don't act black. It's not so much about actually BEING educated or ABLE to speak correctly; It's more about the way you act like you are.
I listen to/sing opera and classical music. I tend to date caucasian males (just my preference); I don't listen to rap/hip-hop/R&B and I don't listen to many African-American artists...unless they sing classical or CCM. Oh, CCM...I'm black so I'm supposed to listen to "black gospel." I go to a church that has all races, but it's predominately white, and the pastor is white. I don't talk "ghetto." The list goes on. Acting white is doing the opposite of what I'm "supposed" to be doing.
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RE: A Matter of Color... Skin Color - One Stop Thread - 2/4/2008 7:34:17 PM
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It's such ignorance. Honestly, we see this within my husbands family. My SIL's call their brothers wife white because she talks "properly." When I was first introduced into the family, they said to her "you must be excited to have another white person to hang out with."
It's plain ignorance. It's sad to see people denigrate their own race by expecting everyone to be the same. You obviously don't think much of yourself if you think that you need to talk in slang, listen to certain music and not do well in school. It's sad but I've met a few people who think this is how they are supposed to act because that is how black people are supposed to act, and it doesn't make them look any better in society's eyes for buying into the stereotypes.
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.... Made sense to me! 
Could have they been more hateful? I was so hurt for her that I didn't eat there for about 5 years (we've been twice to a different restaurant in the same chain since though).