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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/26/2008 2:08:04 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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Now, this doesn't sound so terrible on the surface, but I find it very humiliating. I have seen road blocks set up on major highways stopping travelers to see if their "papers are in order," i.e. license, registration, insurance, etc. This is exactly what Communist Russia used to do to their citizenry at county borders. This is not the kind of freedom that my grandfather and uncles fought for. A country that racially profiles and legally suppresses the people's ordinary travel isn't the America that I was raised in.
It's my guess you really get upset at all the paper work and checking that goes when you purchase a firearm too... Talk about Communist Russia...
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/26/2008 2:52:48 PM
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We are too racist of a country not to have race involved. Is every american a racist , of course not. Should we arrest everyone that looks like one?
Why are'nt we building a fence on the Canadian border, terrorists and illegals come thru there also. Why don't we build fences along the coasts, they flying, coming on ships, etc.
If you are not Native to America, your an illegal alien here. It can 1 or 10 generations away. But who can prove citizenship all the way to the first american forebear.
Which has all their papers?
I say build the fence, so when the time comes , we are sealed in this mess we call America.
Do you live behind four walls?
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/26/2008 3:01:26 PM
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I still maintain that if Clintno figures a way to win this primary; the true "color" of Obama's supporters will come out with rioting in the streets (just as Sharpton predicted or more properly threatened).
A link to Sharpton's words would have been very helpful here. But, I disagree anyway. Obama's supporters are not going to literally riot in the streets simply because he does not win the primary. That idea is ludicrous.
Why? This would be typical Sharpton fueling the fires of race to keep himself afloat...
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/26/2008 4:46:54 PM
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It's my guess you really get upset at all the paper work and checking that goes when you purchase a firearm too... Talk about Communist Russia...
There is major paper work and checking in all kinds of important money transactions. None of them involve racial profiling nor dragging innocent bystanders into the transaction.
Roadblocks and unwarranted investigations are not hallmarks of a free nation: you know, the kind of freedom you would jealously protect with firearms . . .
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Why? This would be typical Sharpton fueling the fires of race to keep himself afloat...
I don't want to know what is "typical." I want to know what he specifically said. It isn't too much to ask.
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/26/2008 5:11:22 PM
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There is major paper work and checking in all kinds of important money transactions. None of them involve racial profiling nor dragging innocent bystanders into the transaction.
Roadblocks and unwarranted investigations are not hallmarks of a free nation: you know, the kind of freedom you would jealously protect with firearms . . .
The checks I have to go through to buy a gun make a roadblock stop look like a nice time... I won't even talk about the restriction and the FACT I had to sell a gun that I legally bought because it later made illegal...
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Why? This would be typical Sharpton fueling the fires of race to keep himself afloat...
I don't want to know what is "typical." I want to know what he specifically said. It isn't too much to ask.
I know enough that the race baiting Mr. Sharpton to take a good educated guess... If you wish to know by all means search the web... I won't waste my time searching through the untold numbers of self-serving quotes... He reputation precedes him...
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/26/2008 5:44:18 PM
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The checks I have to go through to buy a gun make a roadblock stop look like a nice time
You are missing the point: you purchase a firearm willingly and knowingly concerning the background checks, paperwork, etc.
No one pulled you over and made you go through it on the basis of your looks, or simply because you were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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If you wish to know by all means search the web
I did. I got zilch.
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I won't waste my time searching through the untold numbers of self-serving quotes
I don't expect you to do it; I expect rcjames to do it since he brought it up. Why should I have to do it for him?
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/26/2008 6:05:42 PM
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No one pulled you over and made you go through it on the basis of your looks, or simply because you were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I have to go through the checks because I have the nerve to exercise my 2nd Amendment right...
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I did. I got zilch.
Zilch what?
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 12:02:24 AM
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How many blonde haired blue eyed illegal mexicans are there?
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 10:09:34 AM
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I have to go through the checks because I have the nerve to exercise my 2nd Amendment right...
You are side-stepping the point that you were not picked out of a crowd via racial profile, and detained for possible deportation just because of your last name and/or the way you looked.
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Zilch what?
What do you think we were talking about?: a hit on google quoting Al Sharpton's comments about if Obama doesn't win the primary.
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How many blonde haired blue eyed illegal mexicans are there?
Is this some kind of question, or the setup for a punch line?
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 10:40:48 AM
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What do you think we were talking about?: a hit on google quoting Al Sharpton's comments about if Obama doesn't win the primary.
Sharpton has announced and started marching to "SHut Down NYC" over the judges verdict in the shooting case.
What a jerk of a peverty pimp.
Thsnks
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 11:08:08 AM
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Sharpton has announced and started marching to "SHut Down NYC" over the judges verdict in the shooting case.
You said that he threatened this concening Obama and the primaries. Make up your mind, rc-- which is it?
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What a jerk of a peverty pimp.
No racism in that comment . . .
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 12:40:03 PM
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How many blonde haired blue eyed illegal mexicans are there?
Is this some kind of question, or the setup for a punch line?
Someone complained of racial profiling. I asked the relevent obvious next question. How many illegal aliens in this country are white haired and blue eyed? Why would the police stop someone who obviously is not an illegal alien of suspicions of being an illegal alien?
If you were a policeman on the look out for illegal aliens would you stop all the white blonde blue eyed people? Would you question the ones you did encounter?
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 3:54:22 PM
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Someone complained of racial profiling.
Yes, that was me.
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I asked the relevent obvious next question. How many illegal aliens in this country are white haired and blue eyed? Why would the police stop someone who obviously is not an illegal alien of suspicions of being an illegal alien?
That's it right there: do you see your prejudiced assumption? You assume that an "alien" looks Mexican, when in fact an illegal "alien" can be any non-citizen here without proper documentation. Immigrations laws are supposed to be the issue, not phenotypes.
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If you were a policeman on the look out for illegal aliens would you stop all the white blonde blue eyed people?
Border patrol should be concerned with one thing, and one thing only: proper documentation.
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 5:56:34 PM
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ok let's turn this stat around
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57% if white males voting for Clinton is racist, but 92% of blacks voting for Obama is not racist.
57% of black males voting for Obama is racist, but 92% of whites for Clinton is not racist
It silly either way. We know it ain't true.
Will there be rioting, I pray not. But I know that America is very racist, it is the one thing she will not be HEALED of. Won't repent of it. One incident and it all falls apart. I can see that. But I'm praying for it not to happen, and will pray for whoever wins.
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 6:07:34 PM
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Do you live behind four walls?
YES WHY? DON"T YOU?
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how many blonde haired blue eyed illegal mexicans are there?
But how many blonde haired blue eyed are serial killers or child molesters,
I say arrest every male that looks like he might serial kill or child molest.
I think that is way worser than running into a country to work.
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 8:29:10 PM
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Sharpton has announced and started marching to "SHut Down NYC" over the judges verdict in the shooting case.
You said that he threatened this concening Obama and the primaries. Make up your mind, rc-- which is it?
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What a jerk of a peverty pimp.
No racism in that comment . . .
He did both.
Threatened NYC over the aquittal of the police officers.
Threatened Denver if Hillary is nominated.
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No racism in that comment . . .
And no since poverty is not a race issue, it is not a recist statement.
Thanks
RC
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 8:54:17 PM
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Do you live behind four walls?
YES WHY? DON"T YOU?
You seem to have issues with barriers at the border... I just wonder if you kept the same concept where it affected you personally…
Is part of the reason to establish your space? To contain what is inside and to (in theory) keep those you do not invite outside? To maintain some sense of order and control?
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DON"T YOU?
Yep...
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 9:12:39 PM
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I have to go through the checks because I have the nerve to exercise my 2nd Amendment right...
You are side-stepping the point that you were not picked out of a crowd via racial profile, and detained for possible deportation just because of your last name and/or the way you looked.
I am just making the point that you are selective with rights being infringed upon… So I take your outrage of racial profiling with a grain of salt…
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Zilch what?
What do you think we were talking about?: a hit on google quoting Al Sharpton's comments about if Obama doesn't win the primary.
I was asking for clarification... I found his comments... LINK
Problems is that Mr. Sharpton has so many comments of this nature it's hard to find the one you're looking for...lol
John
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 9:16:23 PM
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You seem to have issues with barriers at the border ...
I do have a problem with a so called free country building fences around a country, and then who made the borders, I'm pretty sure the Mexicans have something to say about the border placement.
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Is part of the reason to establish your space? To contain what is inside and to (in theory) keep those you do not invite outside? To maintain some sense of order and control?
Wow, so the Native Americans should kick out all non invited peoples?
I say build it, so it can contain all those for it in it, especially when they need to escape from this mess.
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 9:56:52 PM
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I was asking for clarification... I found his comments... LINK
Problems is that Mr. Sharpton has so many comments of this nature it's hard to find the one you're looking for...lol
Ok, NO where in there does he says blacks are gonna riot. No where in there does he mention riot.
He says he is willing to march and not support Hillary if she steals it.
you should want to march/protest when you see unfairness.
I don't like BO or Hillary, but Hillary should NOT be allowed to steal it and at this point that's about all she can do.
I would hope that if she does steal it that not one black person votes for her in the general.
Al Sharpton does not control black people. We watch him on the news like you do. I've seen black and white with him.
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 10:05:47 PM
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You assume that an "alien" looks Mexican,
How many illegal aliens in this country are not dark skinned hispanics? Its simply a number game. The vast majority of illegal aliens are hispanics. Its not racist. Its fact.
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But how many blonde haired blue eyed are serial killers or child molesters,
I say arrest every male that looks like he might serial kill or child molest.
I'll bet there are many more hispanic illegals than blonde haired child molestors and the comparison is...a poor one.
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 10:12:14 PM
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How many illegal aliens in this country are not dark skinned hispanics? Its simply a number game. The vast majority of illegal aliens are hispanics. Its not racist. Its fact.
Where's the data to make that fact? When's the last time we counted the illegal canadians?
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I'll bet there are many more hispanic illegals than blonde haired child molestors and the comparison is...a poor one.
Maybe true there are more, But I would rather get the child molesters and serial killers, would'nt you?
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 10:16:22 PM
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I am not sure this is a debate on wether or not we should have immigration laws.
I think we should protect our borders and one way to do that is to document who is legal to come here.
I don't have the exact numbers but seems to me I have heard there are millions of illegal hispanic illegals in this country? Who should we be looking for?
If some balding old fat redhaired man escaped from jail and I was pulled over to be checked out....I would call that good police work.
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 10:17:24 PM
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Just an FYI - there indeed are large pockets of Mexicans that are blond and blue eyed.. and other segments that are naturally red headed (ginger kids) and have freckles.
But the ones that tend to cross illegally are lower class/extremely poor.. and not the ones that don't care to live in the U.S.
And another thing to keep in mind, especially true for the last 30 years, a large percentage of those many think are "Mexican" are anything but. They are from nations in Central and South America. As different from Mexico as Poland is from Ireland.
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 4/27/2008 10:22:43 PM
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Being in Florida with a big hispanic population...I agree. Not all hispanics are mexican. Here, I think there are few mexicans. Its more cubans, and central american hispanics.
Not to say they are all illegal. I don't think they are regularily pulled over because the population here is very diverse.
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