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his_chosen -> RE: The Running Thread (5/4/2008 5:49:10 PM)

Giggles--okay, sounds like it's working. I do find that my garmin does not work well on a tree covered bike path. Also sometimes on the road when there's lots of cover. Same goes on days that it's really cloudy. Garmin isn't 100%, but it really is a great tool!



Miss Giggles -> RE: The Running Thread (5/4/2008 5:53:42 PM)

I should have been clear, this bike path was by the lake so there were no trees.

This Garmin is neat, it it is way easier to program. Polar makes good heart monitors but you can't just plug them into a usb like the Garmin. I'll just use my polar hrm indoors at the gym. I am a gadget person anyway.



Prairiehiker -> RE: The Running Thread (5/4/2008 8:53:05 PM)

I ran nine miles today. Woo hoo. I'm back in the game. I haven't run 9 miles since last year. Now, I'm icing my knee and popping advil, lol. I should be ok though as I did them very slow. I think I averaged 11.45 minutes a mile. Still just to be able to run again is amazing!

So, to anyone that's been injured, give it time. You'll get better. Find something else to do while you're healing. It was like h3ll for me during those times, but 6 months later, I can do it again. I'm soooo happy!

And I rewarded myself with the Forerunner 305 last week. Now, if I can only learn how to use it, lol. I am useless at figuring out electronic gadgets!



Miss Giggles -> RE: The Running Thread (5/4/2008 8:55:14 PM)

That's what I got to. It seems to be easy.. let us know if you have any questions. Good Job!



Prairiehiker -> RE: The Running Thread (5/4/2008 10:05:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Miss Giggles

That's what I got to. It seems to be easy.. let us know if you have any questions. Good Job!


Thanks Miss Giggles. I just need to know how to start mapping my trails.
It looks like a really cool toy to have. We used it yesterday during our bike ride. It's the GPS navigation part that I have no clue about.



Miss Giggles -> RE: The Running Thread (5/4/2008 10:24:13 PM)

It maps it for you.

If you download the bike ride into your pc it will show you a basic map or you can export it into google earth and it will show your route right on the map or satellite view.

Pretty neat.



Prairiehiker -> RE: The Running Thread (5/4/2008 11:11:01 PM)

Ah....now I know where I went wrong. I thought all I had to do was turn it on and it'll start mapping. LOL. Guess I have to read the manuals.

Happy running week, everyone!



noblesinger -> RE: The Running Thread (5/5/2008 8:23:20 AM)

The rain held off on Saturday until late that night, so I was able to get my last run for the week in. I drove back to the HS with the rubberized track to do this one, and once again I thoroughly enjoyed the feeling of comfort I got. My knees and ankles weren't stiff like when I run on asphalt or concrete, but I really need to get beyond all of that because both of the 5K's that I'm training for are on concrete. Well, actually they're on our city streets, which are a combination of asphalt and concrete. I noticed after last years Charleston Distance Run 5K that I was more sore than what I thought I'd be. Tylenol took care of it, but I was disappointed that there was more discomfort than I'd predicted. Oh well, I'll get used to it.

Prairiehiker, you might be interested to know of an unusual way to ice yourself down. My mentor, both spiritual and running, and I were getting together to go buy our running shoes for the season, so I stopped by his house to see what time he wanted to leave. When I got there, his wife answered the door and told me that he was in the garage "acting weird." I was puzzled by what she meant, but when the door opened I saw what she was talking about. John was standing there, in the middle of his garage, with his hip waders on. Turns out that he'd filled them with ice cold water, then climbed in so that he could ice down his legs! That was one of the strangest sights I'd ever seen . . . or ever will see, for that matter!

MissGiggles, I saw an interesting little tidbit in the May issue of Runner's World magazine the other day as I was giving it as second reading. In Jeff Galloway's column for beginning runners, he answered the myth that running is hard on your knees. I don't have it in front of me at the moment, but I'll find it and come back later to type in the whole answer for you. Basically, what he said was running actually helps keep the knees loose - but only if you run "close to the ground." I'll give you the entire comment this afternoon. See ya!



Duane



his_chosen -> RE: The Running Thread (5/5/2008 8:42:33 AM)

Yes, running will actually strengthen your knees. For years I had a "loose" knee. Once I started running, it strengthened up. Yes, you can end up with other running injuries. For the most part, though, running is very good for you!



Miss Giggles -> RE: The Running Thread (5/5/2008 8:46:13 AM)

Oh I know. Most people who aren't runners will automatically tell you that "running is bad for you" or you'll "wear your knees out". LOL

I have runners world magazine. Pretty good stuff.



stellaluna -> RE: The Running Thread (5/5/2008 12:34:43 PM)

I heard that running was bad for me for a long time before I stopped listening and started running--and I'm in my 30s!

I will have my second run today and I feel good. No pain at all from my first run back on Saturday. (I also used The Stick before and after that one. I don't know if that has anything to do with anything, but when I first got it, it used to hurt when I used it on my left leg. Now it doesn't.)



Prairiehiker -> RE: The Running Thread (5/5/2008 1:11:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: noblesinger

The rain held off on Saturday until late that night, so I was able to get my last run for the week in. I drove back to the HS with the rubberized track to do this one, and once again I thoroughly enjoyed the feeling of comfort I got. My knees and ankles weren't stiff like when I run on asphalt or concrete, but I really need to get beyond all of that because both of the 5K's that I'm training for are on concrete. Well, actually they're on our city streets, which are a combination of asphalt and concrete. I noticed after last years Charleston Distance Run 5K that I was more sore than what I thought I'd be. Tylenol took care of it, but I was disappointed that there was more discomfort than I'd predicted. Oh well, I'll get used to it.

Prairiehiker, you might be interested to know of an unusual way to ice yourself down. My mentor, both spiritual and running, and I were getting together to go buy our running shoes for the season, so I stopped by his house to see what time he wanted to leave. When I got there, his wife answered the door and told me that he was in the garage "acting weird." I was puzzled by what she meant, but when the door opened I saw what she was talking about. John was standing there, in the middle of his garage, with his hip waders on. Turns out that he'd filled them with ice cold water, then climbed in so that he could ice down his legs! That was one of the strangest sights I'd ever seen . . . or ever will see, for that matter!

MissGiggles, I saw an interesting little tidbit in the May issue of Runner's World magazine the other day as I was giving it as second reading. In Jeff Galloway's column for beginning runners, he answered the myth that running is hard on your knees. I don't have it in front of me at the moment, but I'll find it and come back later to type in the whole answer for you. Basically, what he said was running actually helps keep the knees loose - but only if you run "close to the ground." I'll give you the entire comment this afternoon. See ya!



Duane


Wow, the hip waders filled with ice is really cool. I"ve been wondering how to do an ice bath after my runs since I don't have a big bath tub. But hmmmm...crazy as it sounds, it actually doesn't sound too bizarre.

I can see where running can be bad for your knees. I 've had a knee surgery already, plus I got injured again about 7 months ago. It was due to excessive wear and tear on the knees, and it literally put me out of running for 6 months. I couldnt' even walk a mile. I think if you're running more mileage, or faster, or in a different terrain which you're not trained for, you could potentially do damage to your knees. My injuries were caused by too much mileage, and too running too fast when I wasn't conditioned to it. I got excited at the thought of running the Boston and went overboard overtraining. My knee suffered big time.



noblesinger -> RE: The Running Thread (5/5/2008 2:35:09 PM)

Here's the entire blurb concerning your joints from the April (not May - my bad! ) issue of Runner's World magazine:

FACT OR FICTION? "Running on pavement is bad for your joints."

FICTION. Running's impact is actually good for you; it stimulates bone growth and strengthens muscles. And while softer surfaces like dirt and grass are believed to help absorb impact, achy joints are more often caused by training errors than running surfaces. So increase your mileage by no more than 10 percent a week; use walk breaks; wear running shoes, not cross-trainers; and run close to the ground - think 'forward' not 'up.'


This is definitely contrary to what I've been told, or even what I'm feeling when I'm on the rubberized track. So I guess that I need to keep plugging away on the asphalt track, and maybe even hit the sidewalks on occaision.



Duane



phosadaud -> RE: The Running Thread (5/5/2008 4:03:35 PM)

Rubberized tracks are still my favorite. Dirt and grass can be hard to run on because it's uneven. I am almost always running on pavement or concrete though because there aren't any rubberized options close to where I live.

I'm curious about what's wrong with cross-trainers though? I have 3 pairs of shoes and my cross trainers are the most comfortable and I've never had any problems with them (although I have with the running shoes).

I ran 2 miles this morning. I'm surprised I'm not too stiff from my first bike rides in years over the weekend, but I did pretty well and the running felt good. There is a 5K run on Saturday which should be fun. I'm not sure where we're running, but I guess I'll find out!



stellaluna -> RE: The Running Thread (5/5/2008 4:45:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: phosadaud
Rubberized tracks are still my favorite. Dirt and grass can be hard to run on because it's uneven. I am almost always running on pavement or concrete though because there aren't any rubberized options close to where I live.

It's the same for me. If I want a rubberized track I have to drive across town. There is a park closeby that has grass that is good to run in, so I try to do some of that.

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I'm curious about what's wrong with cross-trainers though? I have 3 pairs of shoes and my cross trainers are the most comfortable and I've never had any problems with them (although I have with the running shoes).

Maybe the wrong kind of running shoe?



phosadaud -> RE: The Running Thread (5/5/2008 8:45:48 PM)

I think it is, but I still don't get why cross training shoes are bad. If it's comfortable, fits good and gives you proper support, what's the problem?



stellaluna -> RE: The Running Thread (5/5/2008 9:17:37 PM)

I can't answer that. I defer to the experts at Runner's World. [:)]

I can't run tonight. My MIL and her sister came to our house for the first time ever. We fed them dinner and they just left and now there's a thunderstorm. [8|] (Although we do need the rain!)



Prairiehiker -> RE: The Running Thread (5/5/2008 10:11:24 PM)

Guys, do you think I'd be too ambitious to start thinking about running a half on father's day? I just got back into running a month ago, after a 6 months abscence due to injury. I used to run a lot, up to 50 miles a week. During my rehab period, I did a lot of cycling, and walking to keep in shape. I don't plan on running for time, and I'll probably cut back my time by 3 min/mile. But I want to run it more to celebrate my return in running. So far, I'm doing about 20 miles a week, and my last long run was yesterday. I ran 9 miles and I feel ok today. I even did a 3 mile run today.

I want to keep healing, and I don't want anymore injury. But I think if I run it slow (between 11-12 min/mile) I would be ok. Is it too soon?



noblesinger -> RE: The Running Thread (5/6/2008 8:22:59 AM)

Prairiehiker,

You could probably get away with a half-marathon this soon. My mentor had hernia surgery about 4 weeks before the Charleston Distance Run last year. He was a member of a three-man relay team for the 15-mile race; one person does the 6 mile steep hill section, another does the 5-mile middle section with only some rolling sections, and the last one takes it on the level for the last 4 miles. Anyway, John took the middle leg and did fine. And that was 4 weeks after surgery (9-1-07). He then did a half-marathon two months later, which was early November. So it should be OK, but I would ask your doctor and maybe another experienced runner what they think. Why not try the Q&A section at Runners World magazine's Web site? They would definitely know what to tell you.

Kristin, is there a specialty running store (such as RunTex, Fleet Feet, or maybe a locally owned one) near you? They could tell you the reasons behind choosing running shoes over corss-trainers. I love my cross-trainers, too, but the only time I use them for any kind of running is if it's warming-up on the treadmill before a session on the weight machines. I thought of using them last year, but the guys at our area's only running store cautioned me against it. I can't exactly recall what they said, but it wasn't just to make a sale. Our whole group was in the store at the time, and our organizer (a fairly experienced racer) was backing up everything he told me. You might give Runner's World a try, too.




Duane



phosadaud -> RE: The Running Thread (5/6/2008 3:00:13 PM)

I need to get new shoes sometime soon. We do finally have a running store here and I was planning on getting an "expert" fitting. I just love my cross-trainers so much, I can't see what would be bad about them! [:D]

Well, I ran 3 miles this morning and stepped up my pace a little. It's taking me a while to get back to where I was, but I'm getting there.



rnershigh -> RE: The Running Thread (5/7/2008 7:23:28 PM)

Went running today for the 1st time in 3 weeks.[:D]
Not bad at all.
I think all the strength training exercises I've been doing 3-4 times a week helped keep me in shape.
In fact, it's funny, my legs and arms are actually more toned!



Miss Giggles -> RE: The Running Thread (5/7/2008 7:43:57 PM)

I ran two miles yesterday.... and a bike path around a like isn't as long as it looks on a map [:D]Apparently my nike+ was wayyyyyyyy off ....... 2 miles is a lot further than I thought

Good thing I didn't use it to train for a distance race, I wouldn't have been prepared.



phosadaud -> RE: The Running Thread (5/7/2008 9:05:57 PM)

I couldn't decide if I'd take today off or tomorrow. When my alarm went off at 5:30am this morning, I decided rather quickly that today was a better day to take off... [8D]



stellaluna -> RE: The Running Thread (5/7/2008 9:29:09 PM)

LOL

I went and ran a quick mile just a little while ago. It rained today so everything smelled really fresh. [:D]



Prairiehiker -> RE: The Running Thread (5/7/2008 10:37:28 PM)

Oh...I love running in the rain as long as it's not pouring hard, and not cold. Haven't done that in a while.

I didn't run today to take a break. I think I'm overdoing it again with the mileage increase. I did yoga instead. Very good for stretching.



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