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Prairiehiker -> RE: The Running Thread (10/11/2008 8:53:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: monamie

For all my runner friends:

The very first time you tried running, how far could you go at a time? How long before you could run a mile without taking a walk break? What tips and suggestions do you have for a first-timer? (I already have the shoes, fitted by a pedorthist.)


I haven't been on here for awhile.

Hm mm...I can't recall. It's been about 20 years for me. I can't even remember how I got into it, except during the first few years, I ran 7 miles daily without stopping. I don't know how long it took me to get to that point.

I agree. Try the Couch to 5K. That's a good program to do. I gave it to my friend, and she's already there. Also, Galloway's program is good too, because he's gentle and his program almost ensures that you're going to be injury free.



his_chosen -> RE: The Running Thread (10/11/2008 9:13:21 PM)

I've been doing endurance bicycling for 20yrs+. As in riding 100miles is nothing. I also did a lot of walking. Once I realized I could walk a half marathon, I decided I wanted to run one. Boy was I in for a shock!!! I ended up doing the walk a block, run a block thing. Because I was in decent shape already I was able to progress quickly. But, yah, at the start it was quite tough!



stellaluna -> RE: The Running Thread (10/11/2008 9:51:54 PM)

I did okay with the run :30, walk 1:00. I did okay with run 1:00, walk 1:00. I really struggled when I got up to 1:30. I couldn't even keep up with the training program I was doing. I had to run 1:30 for several weeks before going to 2:00. However, I think it's safe to say I improved exponentially...like, once I got over the 5:00 hump, it wasn't nearly as hard to add time as it was in the beginning.

I remember the first time I ran a mile without stopping, but I can't remember how far into my training that was. Maybe three months? Continuing to run throughout the summer was really really hard for me and I had some super slow times. It's just been the last few weeks that I can run three miles without stopping or, if running a slow pace, up to 45 minutes or an hour. It really depends on the person; I'm sure some people would have no problem with three miles and some others will never get there. (I've been running 3-4 times a week for nearly a year, minus 2 1/2 months last winter when I was injured.)

I second the advice about not going too fast. I think the mind tells us to run is to run fast, but the mind lies. [;)]

Please stick around the thread. We have all ages and levels.

Hi Prairie!!! [sm=wave.gif]



monamie -> RE: The Running Thread (10/11/2008 9:58:33 PM)

Thanks SO MUCH, y'all!!! This is so helpful and lets me know that maybe I'm not so far off track! You have no idea how much of a relief that is. I'm in shape, so assumed that the change from brisk walking (challenging routes) to running would be much easier. The run a block, walk a block was all I could do and it made me feel a failure---but now I'm learning that's the way to do it anyway. What a relief!!!



stellaluna -> RE: The Running Thread (10/11/2008 10:05:33 PM)

LOL...I thought I was in great shape until I tried to run. Then I was like, "Huh?" [sm=icon_smile_boggled.gif]

Seriously, it's best to start slow because it gives all your parts a chance to get conditioned to running: your lungs, your feet, your back, etc. Even though it has many many benefits, it is still a repetitive pounding motion that most people need to ease into. You're doing just fine!



stellaluna -> RE: The Running Thread (10/11/2008 10:11:56 PM)

Oh, and other tips...let's see...

1) You already have shoes, so that's good. I would have started with that.

2) Nutrition is important. I used to run to eat, but now I'm learning to eat to run. It's important to be hydrated, of course, but as you add mileage things like protein and carbs and electrolytes will be important as well. I have low blood sugar and now that my mileage is increasing I have to take water and energy gel (beans, actually) with me on most runs, just to keep from cratering halfway through the run. Also, it gets really hot where I live, so even when my mileage was low, I made sure to have water or be near water on especially hot days.

3) Because of the heat here, tech fabrics really do make all the difference for me to keep cooler during runs.



phosadaud -> RE: The Running Thread (10/11/2008 11:44:55 PM)

I can't remember how long it was before I was up to a mile either, but I would guess a couple months. I think I could have gotten there faster but I wanted to get comfortable at each distance and reach a certain "time" goal on a consistant basic before increasing my distance. I started at 1/4 mile, then 1/2 mile, then 3/4 mile, then the mile and one from there. I think that gave me a good foundation for my runs now - usually 2-3 miles although I just bumped up my long runs to 4 miles very recently. When I first started to run, I was more concerned about distance and moved quickly up to a mile. It didn't work and I had to start over and work at what I described above. That worked for me.

I have also found that changing my pace makes more of a difference now than increasing distance. A mile run at my usual pace is no big deal anymore at all. However, if I really pick up the pace, a mile run can just about kill me! [:D] I'm trying to switch my runs up more now so I don't get into a routine. Some days I will do sprint/jogs. Some days a faster paced shorter run (1 - 1.5 miles). Some days a slower, longer run (now 4 miles). Some days a long bike ride. Also, varying my routes really makes a big difference. You use slightly different muscles on hills and such.

I think the biggest key is to know yourself - what motivates you, what your body is ready for and when, what your goals are and find a program that fits you best. We're all different!



Prairiehiker -> RE: The Running Thread (10/12/2008 12:07:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: stellaluna

I did okay with the run :30, walk 1:00. I did okay with run 1:00, walk 1:00. I really struggled when I got up to 1:30. I couldn't even keep up with the training program I was doing. I had to run 1:30 for several weeks before going to 2:00. However, I think it's safe to say I improved exponentially...like, once I got over the 5:00 hump, it wasn't nearly as hard to add time as it was in the beginning.

I remember the first time I ran a mile without stopping, but I can't remember how far into my training that was. Maybe three months? Continuing to run throughout the summer was really really hard for me and I had some super slow times. It's just been the last few weeks that I can run three miles without stopping or, if running a slow pace, up to 45 minutes or an hour. It really depends on the person; I'm sure some people would have no problem with three miles and some others will never get there. (I've been running 3-4 times a week for nearly a year, minus 2 1/2 months last winter when I was injured.)

I second the advice about not going too fast. I think the mind tells us to run is to run fast, but the mind lies. [;)]

Please stick around the thread. We have all ages and levels.

Hi Prairie!!! [sm=wave.gif]



Hi back at ya! I sort of stopped posting after my trip but I continued running and even got faster. Then I got ambitious and did a lot of hills, plus a lot of fettle trainings...and back to injuries. Now I'm slowed down again....I did 4 miles today at a very slow speed. I guess I need to learn....or else, I'll be off running for almost a year again, and that is no fun!

Glad to see every one's still here.



phosadaud -> RE: The Running Thread (10/12/2008 12:18:39 AM)

Oops! Forgot to say hi too! Good to see you around and hope you can keep posting!



stellaluna -> RE: The Running Thread (10/12/2008 10:11:46 AM)

I suspect today's five-mile run is going to be derailed by the RAIN that only falls here on weekends. [sm=angertalk.gif] It hasn't stopped raining since yesterday morning and all the streets are flooded. Again. [sm=aside.gif]

I'm following the Chicago marathon via a blog on Runner's World. The elites are at the halfway mark at 62:00 and three men have already broken away. The guys are running a 4:38 pace; the last update they gave on the women was a 5:45 mile. I would have passed out in a quarter mile at either of those paces. [8D]



Miss Giggles -> RE: The Running Thread (10/12/2008 10:30:58 AM)

high of 78 and sunny today. Then it should stay cool.

That pace is just unimaginable. Let me do my turtle pace and just dream. I wouldn't be able to do it for a minute.



stellaluna -> RE: The Running Thread (10/12/2008 12:08:47 PM)

I thought it was going to clear up a bit here, because it had stopped raining for 15 minutes. But THEN, fog descended, the wind picked up and the rain started pounding down! It's so weird. [sm=icon_smile_boggled.gif]

Here are the men's results from Chicago:
1 Cheruiyot, Evans KEN 02:06:25
2 Mandago, David KEN 02:07:37
3 Cherigat, Timothy KEN 02:11:39
4 Korir, Wesley K USA 02:13:53
5 Lauret, Martin NED 02:15:10
6 Mutai, Emmanuel KEN 02:15:36
7 Reneau, Mike USA 02:16:19
8 Kipsang, William KEN 02:16:41
9 Njenga, Daniel KEN 02:17:33
10 Limo, Richard KEN 02:18:48

Kenya rules.

(winning pace was 4:49)



stellaluna -> RE: The Running Thread (10/12/2008 1:06:27 PM)

Women's results:

1 Grigoryeva, Lidiya RUS 2:27:17
2 Biktimirova, Alevtina RUS 2:29:32
3 Shimahara, Kiyoko JPN 2:30:19
4 Tomescu-Dita, Constantina ROM 2:30:57
5 Davila, Desiree USA 2:31:33
6 De Reuck, Colleen USA 2:32:25
7 Bekele, Bezunesh ETH 2:32:41
8 Higgins, Paige USA 2:33:06
9 O'Neill, Kate USA 2:34:04
10 Adere, Berhane ETH 2:34:16

(winning pace 5:37)



Miss Giggles -> RE: The Running Thread (10/12/2008 1:50:44 PM)

Well at least there are two us men that finished in the top ten. Either way its amazing.



stellaluna -> RE: The Running Thread (10/12/2008 2:09:07 PM)

It actually kind of begs the question: Where are the Kenyan women???



phosadaud -> RE: The Running Thread (10/12/2008 2:11:00 PM)

I was wondering the same thing. You'd think with how the men dominate the marathon, there would be at least one Kenyan woman in the top 10.



his_chosen -> RE: The Running Thread (10/12/2008 5:52:37 PM)

A buddy of mine did Chicago today. He DNFed. The conditions were terrible.

Ds3 did a 5K this morning. He hoped to break 35:00, but that wasn't to be. He did 36:30, which was good enough for 2nd in his age group! His first hardware! It was very hard for me to sit on the sidelines and not run.



stellaluna -> RE: The Running Thread (10/12/2008 7:49:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: his_chosen
A buddy of mine did Chicago today. He DNFed. The conditions were terrible.

Really? Do tell. All I've heard is that conditions were better than last year. (Of course, you could probably run across the Sahara in better conditions than last year's marathon. [8|])

quote:


Ds3 did a 5K this morning. He hoped to break 35:00, but that wasn't to be. He did 36:30, which was good enough for 2nd in his age group! His first hardware! It was very hard for me to sit on the sidelines and not run.

You did good, mom! And so did your boy. What age group is he in?

I had this conversation yesterday:
Dad: When are you running again?
Me: Well, I was going to run tonight, but church went long and it's too dark now. So I guess tomorrow.
Dad: No, I mean really run.
Me: Really run? You mean race?
Dad: Yes, race.
Me: Well, I have a 5k coming up on November 11.
Dad: Where is it and what time?
Me: It starts at 8:00 in the morning...why, are you wanting to come?
Dad: Yes, I think so. How long will it last?
Me: I'm hoping to break 30 minutes.
Dad: 30 minutes? So you'll be done by 9:00?
Me: If things work out, I'll be done, back at home and having breakfast by 9:00.
Dad: Oh. Maybe we won't come.
[8D]



his_chosen -> RE: The Running Thread (10/12/2008 7:58:28 PM)

I really don't know what happened to my buddy. He said he had a really good first half. Then, things just came apart. He ended up sitting on the curb at an aid station. After last year, noone was taking any chances and they put him in a wheel chair and took him to a med tent. From there, he was taken to the ER. He was discharged after a few hours. Scary stuff...

Ds3 raced 11 and under. He'll be 12 later this month. I am quite happy that more smaller races have 11-14 and 15-18 age groups. So many of them are only 19 and under, which really isn't fair to the younger runners.



phosadaud -> RE: The Running Thread (10/12/2008 10:55:59 PM)

stellaluna - That's funny about your dad! I'm trying so hard to convince my parents to go to some of the fun runs around here. I keep telling them that about half the folks walk and I think they would really enjoy it... I guess we'll see what happens.

his_chosen - Congrats to your son! That's great! Most of the races I've done around here break down the ages for the kids which is really much more fair. An 18 year old racing a 10 year old is just wrong. [&:] Sorry to hear about your friend, but it is best to be safe. The younger brother of a gal I went to school with died in a marathon a couple years back - just keeled over and died. I think he was probably in his mid to late twenties. [&o]



p31woman -> RE: The Running Thread (10/13/2008 1:36:36 PM)

We found a local 3k race on November 15th, so we're running that one first, in preparation for the 5k turkey trot on Thanksgiving Day! [sm=dance.gif]



Miss Giggles -> RE: The Running Thread (10/13/2008 1:53:07 PM)

well I said i was running, and my parents said "why?" and you'll hurt your knees (prob thinking of my uncle who was the only one who used to run)

Then my brother in law and sister start running and its ok for them [&:]

I went to pilates/yoga , was kind of stiff. Running makes me inflexible.



stellaluna -> RE: The Running Thread (10/13/2008 2:03:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Miss Giggles
well I said i was running, and my parents said "why?" and you'll hurt your knees (prob thinking of my uncle who was the only one who used to run)

My family has never made this sort of comment, but most every friend I have has said similar. (Usually while holding a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other. [sm=aside.gif])

3k is...1.864 miles. That's a nice distance, especially since your husband was complaining before that 3.1 miles is absurd. [8|] [8D]

In really really REALLY good news...we've finally had a genuinely cold cold front!!! It's 46 degrees and I CAN NOT WAIT TO RUN THIS EVENING!!! WOOHOO!!!



phosadaud -> RE: The Running Thread (10/13/2008 3:12:39 PM)

Yeah! It's much cooler here as well. Of course, now the challenge is to find a balance between wearing enough that I don't freeze, but not too much because it's not yet that cold. I didn't find that balance this morning and sweat like a pig... [8D]

I did 1.5 miles of intervals. This Saturday is my physical testing for police so I'm trying to plan out my week so I'm ready for the testing but not too tired for the testing.



his_chosen -> RE: The Running Thread (10/13/2008 3:47:35 PM)

Yah, I hate the change of season because I never know how to dress!

I'm fully in taper for my marathon. I did all of 2miles this morning. I AM GOING CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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