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ORIGINAL: ctipton
Rich,

I guess I don't know who you are addressing. If it includes me, you are going to have to let me know. I just recall that you usually present those who disagree with you on this topic in a manner that they would disagree with.

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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben
I'm not answering a question, I'm asking one.

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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben

(games again...)[8|]

I'll be as clear as I can on this. I believe Charlie summed it up well when he states that common sense tells a thinking person that Iran is/was going after nuclear weapons. Does that cover what you were looking for? For no, there isn't that hard proof available that without a doubt tells of their plans as far as going after nuclear weapons. They are a country with secrets much like other countries.

Now I ditto the question in post 27.

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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben

Not gonna answer are you.

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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben

I figured...

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Of course every country has secrets, but to the best knowledge of our country's intelligence resources, it has been determined Iran was not pursuing nukes for the past few years, in blatant contradiction to what Bush, Cheney, others said.

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ORIGINAL: ljmac

First Libya now Iraq. They both gave up WMD programs when GWB was President. Only in America do we get mad at our leader when the enemy drops their weapons.

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The starkly different view of Iran's nuclear program that emerged from U.S. spy agencies this week was the product of a surge in clandestine intelligence-gathering in Iran as well as radical changes in the way the intelligence community analyzes information.

Drawing lessons from the intelligence debacle over supposed Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell required agencies to consult more sources and to say to a larger intelligence community audience precisely what they know and how they know it -- and to acknowledge, to a degree previously unheard of, what they do not know.

" 'Do not know' is a new technical term for an NIE," said a senior official who was involved in preparation of the report, known as a National Intelligence Estimate.

Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, December 5, 2007; Page A01

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ORIGINAL: ctipton

Rich,

I thought this might be of interest to you and others. The article in the Washington Post describes some changes in the way in which the nation analyzes information by making it available to more intelligence, by being more open about what they do not know and by being more cautious is discarding intelligence that is contrary to the other data.

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The starkly different view of Iran's nuclear program that emerged from U.S. spy agencies this week was the product of a surge in clandestine intelligence-gathering in Iran as well as radical changes in the way the intelligence community analyzes information.

Drawing lessons from the intelligence debacle over supposed Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell required agencies to consult more sources and to say to a larger intelligence community audience precisely what they know and how they know it -- and to acknowledge, to a degree previously unheard of, what they do not know.

" 'Do not know' is a new technical term for an NIE," said a senior official who was involved in preparation of the report, known as a National Intelligence Estimate.

Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, December 5, 2007; Page A01

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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben

Rich, since according to the links you posted that Iran HALTED their nuclear weapons program, do you now admit that they in fact HAD a nuclear weapons program?

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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben

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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben

Rich, since according to the links you posted that Iran HALTED their nuclear weapons program, do you now admit that they in fact HAD a nuclear weapons program?

Well?

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I'll be as clear as I can on this. I believe Charlie summed it up well when he states that common sense tells a thinking person that Iran is/was going after nuclear weapons. Does that cover what you were looking for? For no, there isn't that hard proof available that without a doubt tells of their plans as far as going after nuclear weapons. They are a country with secrets much like other countries.

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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben
I'm sorry you didn't accept this as an answer as I guess it didn't (admittedly) have the links you wanted.

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I thought this might be of interest to you and others. The article in the Washington Post describes some changes in the way in which the nation analyzes information by making it available to more intelligence, by being more open about what they do not know and by being more cautious is discarding intelligence that is contrary to the other data.

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The starkly different view of Iran's nuclear program that emerged from U.S. spy agencies this week was the product of a surge in clandestine intelligence-gathering in Iran as well as radical changes in the way the intelligence community analyzes information.

Drawing lessons from the intelligence debacle over supposed Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell required agencies to consult more sources and to say to a larger intelligence community audience precisely what they know and how they know it -- and to acknowledge, to a degree previously unheard of, what they do not know.

" 'Do not know' is a new technical term for an NIE," said a senior official who was involved in preparation of the report, known as a National Intelligence Estimate.

Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, December 5, 2007; Page A01

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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben
Quote me where I said Iran was BUILDING nukes. I said, and still believe, that they are on a program, currently stopped or not, to develop a nuclear weapon.

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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben
Now I'll ask for the last time - Rich, since according to the links you posted that Iran HALTED their nuclear weapons program, do you now admit that they in fact HAD a nuclear weapons program?