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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/15/2008 9:03:30 AM
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Wayfaring_Stranger
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Im surprised the black girl was a model...maybe I am wrong, but I thought I heard her say she had never been given a chance before because her size was an issue....did anyone else hear anything like that or was I more tired than I thought?
It seemed like she got a sympathy vote after those comments.
So in other words she should not be on AI because of her looks? Please, I hope we are not starting that again. Mandisa got by too, but look where it got her--a recording contract, a book deal and other opportunities.
This woman deserved to be on AI because of her talent, which we should be voting on, not because of a size-6 mentality.
No one here said that. Don't be so quick to read that into someone's comments. The questions just had to do with making sense of what the girl herself had said about not being given a chance because of her size.
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/15/2008 12:14:58 PM
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All this Josiah stuff just brings back memories of that Jenny show where some guy committed suicide after the show, I think it was over him being gay & announcing his love to someone - something like that. W/ all this high expectation they put these folks through during these rounds, just to tell them they aren't going to make it, someone someday is going to take it all bad & do something bad. They better be ready & be lawyered up!! kd
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/15/2008 12:31:29 PM
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As for "geeky" Clay, the last I heard, neither he nor Reuben were doing too well. Actually, Clay's doing all right for himself. He's currently doing 6 months as the lead in the Broadway play "Spamalot".
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/15/2008 4:26:00 PM
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I think some of these people need counseling, not only with the preliminary rounds, but the other rounds as well.
It is not AI's responsibility to counsel these people. It's almost like for anyone auditioning for a role in a movie or the theater and you don't get cast- it's natural to be dissapointed - or even like when applying for a job, don't expect that you get counseling everytime you don't get picked or hired.
While I agree with you in spirit, I do think there's a significant difference. Having been part of drama productions in school, I can tell you that the teacher/director never led you on during auditions by saying how wonderful you were, then dumping you. You had to sweat every step of the way until you saw the final cast list. It's no wonder some of these people take it so badly, when they've been told in the early rounds that they're good enough to get up in front of the judges.
Now during Hollywood week, that's a different story. Those are all good people, so I can see where they would need counseling after washing out. This younger generation has been raised with a sense of entitlement. They were told nobody should ever lose because that would hurt peoples' feelings.  This is probably their first brush with reality.
As for Amanda, I don't care what size she is. Pavarotti was hardly a model, but that man could sing. 
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/15/2008 6:58:28 PM
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There is a controversy surrounding one of the contestants in this season's American Idol. Apparently one of the contestants Carly Smithson had previously recored an album back in 2001 for MCA records. Read all about it. I thought that this show was for undiscovered talent.
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/15/2008 7:41:28 PM
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I think some of these people need counseling, not only with the preliminary rounds, but the other rounds as well.
It is not AI's responsibility to counsel these people. It's almost like for anyone auditioning for a role in a movie or the theater and you don't get cast- it's natural to be dissapointed - or even like when applying for a job, don't expect that you get counseling everytime you don't get picked or hired.
But some of these people once they get into the preliminary rounds, these people get pumped up, thinking they are good, but they get into the Hollywood rounds and not being good enough then, these people are disapointed to the point that they do not want to even try again, even their spirits are broken because of this. This is why I am concerned for Josiah because this was a young man who though he was going to make it, yet he has his dreams dashed and yet he broke down on camera.
I hope and pray that this boy has a good belief system, yet alone his family being an encouragment.
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/15/2008 7:43:00 PM
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Im surprised the black girl was a model...maybe I am wrong, but I thought I heard her say she had never been given a chance before because her size was an issue....did anyone else hear anything like that or was I more tired than I thought?
It seemed like she got a sympathy vote after those comments.
So in other words she should not be on AI because of her looks? Please, I hope we are not starting that again. Mandisa got by too, but look where it got her--a recording contract, a book deal and other opportunities.
This woman deserved to be on AI because of her talent, which we should be voting on, not because of a size-6 mentality.
No one here said that. Don't be so quick to read that into someone's comments. The questions just had to do with making sense of what the girl herself had said about not being given a chance because of her size.
But it sounded to me that it was said, that all. And I'm sorry if some were offensive by my comments.
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/15/2008 8:44:19 PM
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Add me to this list who's DVRs cut off the final pick, haha...
I think David Cook and Michael Johns are my horses this year. I'm ready for the real competition to begin...
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/16/2008 9:11:52 AM
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But some of these people once they get into the preliminary rounds, these people get pumped up, thinking they are good, but they get into the Hollywood rounds and not being good enough then, these people are disapointed to the point that they do not want to even try again ...
Right or wrong, I don't see where AI has to take responsibility for "counseling" people because of this. Yeah, they might feel a huge let-down, and yeah, they might feel so defeated they don't want to try again ... but life can be like that for ALL of us -- just that most of us don't have it being broadcast for the world to see.
Besides, this show has been on for years -- we all know the drill. 100,000 people who auditioned got rejected, and another 23 will be in the next few months. If they're not prepared to hear "sorry, we're not interested" then they've got their head in the sand about this show AND that line of business!
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/16/2008 2:25:28 PM
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While I agree with you in spirit, I do think there's a significant difference. Having been part of drama productions in school, I can tell you that the teacher/director never led you on during auditions by saying how wonderful you were, then dumping you. You had to sweat every step of the way until you saw the final cast list. It's no wonder some of these people take it so badly, when they've been told in the early rounds that they're good enough to get up in front of the judges.
obviously they are passed up to the next level, but there has never been any indication that they are told they are "good enough" to get pushed up. It's an elimination competition...and if you can't take the elimination at some point (whether that be the first or the fifth) then it's not the shows fault. These people that try out for this show should know that they pass good AND bad people up for the judges to see.
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Right or wrong, I don't see where AI has to take responsibility for "counseling" people because of this. Yeah, they might feel a huge let-down, and yeah, they might feel so defeated they don't want to try again ... but life can be like that for ALL of us -- just that most of us don't have it being broadcast for the world to see.
Besides, this show has been on for years -- we all know the drill. 100,000 people who auditioned got rejected, and another 23 will be in the next few months. If they're not prepared to hear "sorry, we're not interested" then they've got their head in the sand about this show AND that line of business!
yup....I agree...exactly it!!!!
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/16/2008 6:42:17 PM
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I agree that it should not be the show's responsibility to counsel the contestants who do not make it. I will admit to feeling very bad for Josiah when he didn't make the cut, but he only had himself to blame when he dismissed the band and had a terrible final audition.
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/18/2008 11:27:20 AM
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I do feel that if this show does not wrap up in a year or so, it will be because of a tragedy that the show ends. It does seem that a lot of delusional people are getting into this thing & not only can it be destructive for the show, but I find it turning into a cess pool of danger for all of the contests trying out, stable or not. kd
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/19/2008 9:05:09 AM
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I guess if they have watched the show, they know how it works. I do not agree with the way people are treated at all, but they know how cruel they can be.
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/19/2008 5:18:53 PM
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Top 12 Guys tonight... And guess what? We have a THEME -- Songs of the 60s!
I don't really like the idea of a theme in the semifinals. This part of the show is usually my favorite because you never know what song is going to be chosen.
Oh well, I'm too excited to care right now...
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/19/2008 10:20:36 PM
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I like the two Davids - David Archueta and btw has anyone seen his Star Search performance when I think he was 11...find it in youtube. I don't want to post the link here since youtube comments are sometimes just too much. But I remember him then after seeing it. This kid makes me smile. I also like the David who sang Happy Together...great version. And of course, last but not the least I like Michael Lee Johns...the guy's good. A couple of guys with the attitude...Chikezeya and I think Danny, I think is his name -the one who did the first Elvis-- they will not last in the competition.
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/20/2008 12:14:06 AM
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I like the themes..I think it makes them branch out from their one normal sound and really push themselves into different genre's of music that they wouldn't normally try out. It really lets the judges and us see how well versed their voice is in all areas....and sometimes how not well versed it is. I think if they didn't have themes then some people would in essence pick the same song every time they performed. I like the variety it brings!!! Can't wait to hear some of the ones we haven't hardly heard anything from up until now though!!!
I like the Theme Nights too... in the finals.
In the semi-finals, let me hear the real singer.
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/20/2008 12:18:28 AM
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My very quick thoughts:
1) Michael Johns -- Completely comfortable. He's the great, white, male winner they've always wanted (Taylor Hicks aside).
2) Jason Castro -- The only "cannon fodder" contestant to do something to stand out. He took a chance and succeeded.
3) David Cook -- I liked his take on "Happy Together", it worked for me.
4) David Archuleta -- It's hard not to cheer for the guy and he sounds great when he's on... But the kid has absolutely no lower register.
5) Robbie Carrico -- I thought he did a nice job overall, but I too wonder if he's really a pop singer trapped in a rock star's body.
6-12) Everyone else was pretty much forgettable, for a variety of different reasons. Any of them could go home and I really wouldn't care.
Those are my Top 5 guys and I'm sticking to it.
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/20/2008 12:53:18 AM
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Michael Johns by far is my favorite, followed by David Cook and Robbie(not necessarily in that order).
The rest of them sound like every other singer out there, and some had so many pitch issues it was pathetic. I wasn’t impressed with most of them.
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/20/2008 5:40:06 AM
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Thank you wayfaring stranger for defending what I was saying which was NOT EVEN CLOSE to what someone else interpreted..wow, that was waaay out there...lol
But about last nights show- The 60's theme was lame to begin with imo, and a lot of the guys were disappointing. I know nerves are a factor, but still I expected better.
David did best with the "Happy Together" ...I think the guy who did the Elvis thing got a bad rap from Simon, but what else is new. I don't think it will cause him to be eliminated and he will come back stronger in the next round.
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/20/2008 9:34:57 AM
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You almost wish that w/ so much bad performing last night, that they wouldn't just eliminate 2 but just go ahead & eliminate everyone that really don't have a chance. The long period for the semis does leave us w/ our ears hurting waiting for the final 12.
I missed the first hour, so I really couldn't make a fair judgment. I was pleased overall w/ performanceship. Nerves are a big factor in this segment & the ability to be diverse. No one can ever complain about themes because after this many years they know this is how the game is played.
I had been a fan of Danny Noriega since the beginning, but well, now I think he's showing too much of his gay side. Am I right?
I think Garrett kind of has an old soul & w/ right song choice he can do better.
Jason Castro was probably the best for me, but not having seen the first 6, I can't really say. k
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/20/2008 9:46:46 AM
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I like the themes..I think it makes them branch out from their one normal sound and really push themselves into different genre's of music that they wouldn't normally try out. It really lets the judges and us see how well versed their voice is in all areas....and sometimes how not well versed it is. I think if they didn't have themes then some people would in essence pick the same song every time they performed. I like the variety it brings!!! Can't wait to hear some of the ones we haven't hardly heard anything from up until now though!!!
I like the Theme Nights too... in the finals.
In the semi-finals, let me hear the real singer.
That's the way I feel, too. I like the themes later on, but at this stage I want to see more of what they would choose without the themes. I think they can showcase themselves more that way.
I didn't think anybody bombed out completely tonight, but Danny Noriega came close -- totally awful attitude, and he just didn't have the persona to pull off that song.
Didn't like Chikezie's attitude, either. I thought he did the song "ok" -- just nothing to stand out.
I liked Jason Yeager and Luke Menard, but I like those kinds of songs, anyway. I think Luke looks like an actor or a male model.
I kind of agree with what Simon said about Garrett -- he looks kind of gaunt.
My favorites by far were David Archuleta and Michael Johns -- as Simon said, when you've got it, you've got it, and they've got it. I think Johns could have chosen a better song, though -- when he got done, I told my husband, "At least there weren't many lines to memorize." I don't like songs where the same line is repeated over and over.
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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 2/20/2008 9:56:48 AM
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I had been a fan of Danny Noriega since the beginning, but well, now I think he's showing too much of his gay side. Am I right?
Oh, I am SO biting my lip right now so as to not do a diva snap and say something catty!
My favorites, in no particular order, off the top of my head:
* Michael Johns, the cute Aussie guy
• Jason Castro, dreadlock man with the guitar
• David H. and his gospel-tinged Midnight Hour
• David Cook, whose performance would have been "worthy" of a vote if I'd bothered to.
• Robbie C., not a bad rocker performance, even if he did mess up the lyrics a bit.
The rest range from not bad, to forgettable to just plain BAD.
I'm concerned that some of Simon's criticism of some, though valid, might cause a backlash of voters to defend them. And VFTW did "endorse" Danny while voting was still taking place ...
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