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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 9:00:15 AM   
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On the hopeful side of things, Jason is showing up 4th in the first poll I was watching - and folks in Hawaii and on the West Coast still have time to vote. Brooke is now in 5th with 8.03% (2.99% margin of error) of the votes. Jason has 8.19% (2.944% margin of error) of the votes, and David A has 10.26% (2.954% margin of error) of the votes. Syesha is still showing to be in the lead, with David C running about 2% behind her... It will be interesting to see how accurate this site is tomorrow night at elimination time.


I suspect the poll won't end up being all that accurate. How could it take into account how many times people called? And what they say they did verses what they really did. Or was it simply an opinion/popularity poll, that didn't even take into account whether or not people called?

Viewers' opinions are not equal to callers' opinions. Viewer's opinions basically do not count. And the demographics of viewers in general are not equal to the demographics of callers. That much has become clear over the years. I'll bet that the producers know the demographics of those likely to call, and call often. I don't think anyone in the general public has got it figured out yet.

Although - there are some general things we can take away from the finals of this season and past seasons.

1) Young likable, not overly masculine guys do tend to place in the top 10, and if they have talent, much higher.

2) The best rockers from the Hollywood group tend to place in the top 10 but often get eliminated before the final show.

3) At least one young, attractive female country type (usually blonde) will be in the top half of the finalists.

4) Related to that, young, attractive African American girls with very good vocal and performance talent often do well.

5) Related to 3 and 4, female rockers haven't done as well.

6) There is often a "sympathy"/"underdog individual in the top 12, who also often keeps their position in the finalists as more talented folks get the ax.

7) Appearances are a factor in influencing voters, and when the group gets down to the top 5 or 6, often less attractive people are voted off.

Here's my take on last night:

Loopy Paula. Obviously referring to dress rehearsal. And likely on meds.

Between David C (appealing to mid/older teens and young adults) and David A (preteens and older adults), is there enough left over for Jason to have a big enough fan base? Is he inspiring a Soul Patrol style highly enthuiastic large group of fans? If not, he's in the bottom two this week and possibly out.

Syesha and Brooke are both vulnerable, but Brooke has been more consistent through the finals. So, it's a battle between "most improved" and likable consistent performer. I would give the edge to Syesha, but I know that Brooke has an enthuiastic fan base. My husband and both daughters like her.

Should go: Jason. But I won't be surprised if either Syesha or Brooke go.

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 9:06:33 AM   
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I want all of your honest opinions on Paula's slip-up tonight. According to one source, "During tonight's performances, Paula basically cast doubt on American Idol by messing up in a major way. When Ryan asked the judges for their thoughts on the contestants first performances, Paula not only gave her thoughts on Jason’s first song but also his second song, which coincidentally, hadn’t been aired yet. I call this a major ooppps. Even Randy, Ryan and Simon attempted to cover the mistake up, but it didn’t matter; the cat was out of the bag, judges' comments are “pre-written” based on rehearsal and now the whole world knows this fact."



I think Paula was just being Paula -- no cover up here. If their comments were prewritten then Brooke's mistake was prewritten as well because they had to make comments as the singers perform and anything can happen. Even David A...forgot his words a few songs ago. It's a live show so Paula's mistake was she was writing comments as they were rehearsing before the show aired. And knowing Paula, she usually had a hard time finishing a sentence and she's aware that she will not have enough time 'coming up with words' so she decided to write them down. That...or she's been in her loopy land again.

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 9:19:36 AM   
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I think that it will be Jason going home tonight. In my opinion, he is not fighting hard enough to stay in the competition and he sounds the same week after week. David C and David A will be the final two unless there are some surprises in store. Syeesha was good as was Brooke, so it could be any one of them going home, but my money is on Jason. Paula's medication needs to be increased or on a lower dosage.

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 9:50:38 AM   
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To me, Jason is what he is. In looking at him on You Tube, I personally see no difference. This is his style & I don't see him pepping it up like the judges want. To me his success has been in his style. If you look at his expressions, he does have that "come hither" look that the girls like. To me, he reminds me of the heart throb that every girl wants to put their head on his shoulder. The strong sensitive type. I really think that is what has kept him going. He definitely doesn't want to be American Idol because he knows that he will be controlled in ways that are not him. I see him more as that acoustic unplugged kind of guy on stage w/ the small audience & just having a good time. AI is the right platform for him to get that kind of attention, so I do think he will be picked up by the right people.

AI again is a reality show. Paula is your token crazy. If AI had a problem w/ that, she would have been gone a long time ago. The media talk up comings & goings all the time. Seems the latest one they are talking about is Ryan. Now they say his job is not so secure.

I look at DialIdol, even though it's confirmed it's not so accurate. I do notice one thing. It does seem second from the bottom is the more consistent when it comes to who goes home. If that is still correct, then it is Jason up on the chopping block.

Syesha does have the appeal & I'm predicting she is the first after the tour to get her first contract or head to Broadway.

I don't know how many tickets Brooke will sell, but she'll be out there for a while & then I think people will get tired of her. Or if her focus stays strictly on her music & not her attitude, she just might make it. Kind of reminds me of David Lee Roth. He was always nice to look at, but when he opened his mouth to talk, ooh, just make me sick! Shut up!!

David C, surprising the song choices to prove he doesn't know Neil, but he did make them work for him. Again, potential recordings for him in the future.

I wonder why the judges are so up on David A too. Why would they want to put up w/ his over domineering pop anymore than they do now? k

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 9:53:18 AM   
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Syesha - Hello Again and Thank the Lord for the Night Time
Syesha did well on both songs. In my opinion she was the strongest of the night.

David C - I'm Alive and All I Really Need is You
His first song was excellent. His second song was boring. Way too much time before he got to the meat of the song.

Jason - Forever in Blue Jeans and September Morn
Both songs were well done. I'll discuss the judges' comments later.

David A - Sweet Caroline and America
Both songs were awful. He sang well but "Sweet Caroline" was chopped to bits. Whoever came up with that arrangement should be shot. "America" was repetitive. "America" was repetitive. "America" was repetitive. "America" was repetitive. Anyone who has ever heard Neil Diamond sing "America" would know that Archuleta's rendition was awful.

Brooke - I'm a Believer and I Am... I Said
The only decent critique Simon gave was that "I'm a Believer" was a nightmare. Brooke might have been a smidgeon better if she had not played the guitar. "I Am I said" was better but probably not enough to save her from elimination.

The Judges
What a farce. Randy's bias was showing. Paula's drugs or alcohol were showing. Simon's disgust with AI was showing.

I cannot imagine any other contestant in any season of AI getting praised for that chopped up, sorry excuse of an arrangement of "Sweet Caroline". Simon obviously has a muzzle on him for him to give a veiled slam that sounded like praise for Archuleta's performance of "America". It's almost as though they have all been told to not criticize Archuleta no matter how bad he performs.

Jason can do no right. He sang very well yet Simon disses him for not coming up with a new arrangement. I wonder if Jason is getting the expert help in arranging songs that David A is getting because there is no way that David A is creating those arrangement on his own.

It's pretty obvious to me that Jason and David C have lost all respect for the judges' critiques. Syesha barely listens to the judges anymore. Brooke looked to be on her own cocktail of happy pills this week as the judges' comments barely phased her. And Paula actually called David A a savant on live television. Yikes.

My predictions from yesterday stand. Brooke is going home tonight. Jason has a huge fan base. Syesha may be in danger but she shouldn't be.

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 10:01:31 AM   
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I usually don't check much on dialidol but when it get to the top 6-- the number gets narrowed and it gets closer to accuracy comparing to when they had the top 10 or top 12. Dialidol had David C and Syesha safe tonight. The remaining 3 are not safe. I'm picturing AI to put David A on the bottom 2 tonight with either Brooke or Jason to put more drama but David A will not be going home.

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 11:22:44 AM   
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Syesha barely listens to the judges anymore.


I'd say that there is more evidence that she HAS listened to the judges in recent weeks. "Thank the Lord for the Nightime" was heavily influenced by the good reviews she got for her ALW week performance.

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 11:31:33 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: laura...
Syesha barely listens to the judges anymore.


I'd say that there is more evidence that she HAS listened to the judges in recent weeks. "Thank the Lord for the Nightime" was heavily influenced by the good reviews she got for her ALW week performance.


I think Syesha was listening ALW.

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 11:44:10 AM   
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I am not a Neil Diamond fan to start but that was SO boring.

David C and Syesha were the best

David A sounded nice but dull

Jason, I like him a ton but that was not good.

Brooke, I could not possibly be more tired of her.

Bottom two should be: Jason and Brooke. Brooke homeward bound

Will be: I am afraid Syesha may go which is sad.... and no, she is not going home because she is African American (hopefully to end that debate before it gets started)... it's because she hasn't connected until the last week or so.

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 11:49:24 AM   
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I don't get the fascination with Brooke. I don't find her very likeable and her talent seems to be pretty limited.

Jason..I get that - he looks different, he's fairly quiet, very sweet and feeds into the adolescent romantism. I don't think he's all that, but I get why some think so.

Brooke....I just don't get.

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 12:15:06 PM   
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The stats I was watching come from dialidol - David A, Jason and Brooke are the bottom three there. On zabasearch, they state this morning that Syesha received the least amount of votes and that David C received the highest amount of votes. Rickeyorg predicts Syesha to be going home as well, and that she and Brooke will be the bottom two, unless David A is thrown in that mix for drama and to garner more (sympathy) votes from the teenyboppers and grannies for him. I'm still standing by my call that Brooke needs to go home, although it may be Syesha instead. I just don't see one of the guys heading out just yet...

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ORIGINAL: laura...

The Judges
What a farce. Randy's bias was showing. Paula's drugs or alcohol were showing. Simon's disgust with AI was showing.


I'm so glad I wasn't the only one to see it this way. Apparently, Paula was interviewed this morning on live radio. She made excuses that she was distracted by her friends and family being in the audience; that she missed Jason's first song because she was seating said friends and family members - so she relied on her notes from dress rehearsal (which she supposedly was not seen at, except for possibly during the last part of September Morn); that she uses "slabs" of paper to critique the Idol contestants and got mixed up that way; that having to critique the contestants so quickly threw her on a "curveball" because it wasn't "what the judges were told would happen"; and then she claimed judges weren't even listening to the performances because they were so "discombobulated - she called it all "fun and silly" and the list goes on and on... What a mess!

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I cannot imagine any other contestant in any season of AI getting praised for that chopped up, sorry excuse of an arrangement of "Sweet Caroline". Simon obviously has a muzzle on him for him to give a veiled slam that sounded like praise for Archuleta's performance of "America". It's almost as though they have all been told to not criticize Archuleta no matter how bad he performs.


Poor wittle David A - he's the baby, so they're all playing nice? That shouldn't fly, in my opinion. If you play with the big dogs, you should be treated like a big dog and face the negative comments that should be coming your way. I just hate how they all gush over him, like he's an unstoppable superhero... ugh! I guess one of my biggest downfalls is thinking that everyone should be treated the same, and with fairness, so this really aggravates me.

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Jason can do no right. He sang very well yet Simon disses him for not coming up with a new arrangement. I wonder if Jason is getting the expert help in arranging songs that David A is getting because there is no way that David A is creating those arrangement on his own.


I hate to say it - but I am in total agreement with you there. And if rumors are right, David A's father is running him... I am really starting to think Jason is the stepchild of the show... I so do not understand how they literally dish out sympathy for others who are sick but make no mention of it when Jason has been sick for the past two weeks. We all know that when you aren't feeling well, you will not be at the top of your game. I think the judges' bias is starting to seriously make itself known. (and they wonder why folks don't wanna watch AI anymore...)

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It's pretty obvious to me that Jason and David C have lost all respect for the judges' critiques. Syesha barely listens to the judges anymore. Brooke looked to be on her own cocktail of happy pills this week as the judges' comments barely phased her. And Paula actually called David A a savant on live television. Yikes.

My predictions from yesterday stand. Brooke is going home tonight. Jason has a huge fan base. Syesha may be in danger but she shouldn't be.


Maybe I shouldn't defend the contestants who choose not to listen to the judges' critiques, but at some point, you have to admit that when you recognize something as having no value or of being totally false, you tune out too... I know from a personal standpoint that when something negative or insubstantial/insignificant comes my way - and keeps coming my way - I either have to agree with it and feel terrible about myself/my situation/whatever - or ignore it and try to keep my self-confidence alive and well. Brooke was all smiles tonight during the critique of her - being such a gracious person and all bubbly... wonder if they gave her some happy pills before the show to help her cope and keep her from breaking down like you said? And yes, dear happy little Paula had to call her wonderboy a savant... Talk about adding more wood to the fire...

I really hope you are right about Brooke going home tonight, Laura. It's gonna be interesting to see what happens on tonight's show - including the coverage of Paula's huge mistake last night, if they choose to address that as well.

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 1:06:40 PM   
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If this were a talent show, then the two Davids would be the final 2.

But since AI is a REALITY show, I suspect one of them will be eliminated in one of the weeks before the final.

The ratings this season are going into the toilet. They are going to need a ratings "shocker" in the next few weeks.

S7 reminds me a lot of S5:

- David Cook is the Chris Daughtry and could be the shocking elimination next week or the week after.
- Jason is the Elliot Yamin. He may hang around until the final 3

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 1:13:25 PM   
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It's pretty obvious to me that Jason and David C have lost all respect for the judges' critiques. Syesha barely listens to the judges anymore. Brooke looked to be on her own cocktail of happy pills this week as the judges' comments barely phased her.


I'm not sure why you'd say that about David C.? He's been praised for being original and questioned the one time he sang the song as written, so he's continuing to be original and modern. Every time Simon says he's "cocky" or "arrogant" he comes back the next week sufficiently humble (Personally I don't think he's cocky -- nearly every time he smiles Simon says that.)

I think Brooke had gotten feedback about how her comments to the judges were sounding, and so last week she didn't say anything. She must've also gotten feedback about how "pouty" she looked and tried to "beam" this week.

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 1:31:11 PM   
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It's pretty obvious to me that Jason and David C have lost all respect for the judges' critiques. Syesha barely listens to the judges anymore. Brooke looked to be on her own cocktail of happy pills this week as the judges' comments barely phased her. And Paula actually called David A a savant on live television. Yikes.

My predictions from yesterday stand. Brooke is going home tonight. Jason has a huge fan base. Syesha may be in danger but she shouldn't be.


Maybe I shouldn't defend the contestants who choose not to listen to the judges' critiques, but at some point, you have to admit that when you recognize something as having no value or of being totally false, you tune out too... I know from a personal standpoint that when something negative or insubstantial/insignificant comes my way - and keeps coming my way - I either have to agree with it and feel terrible about myself/my situation/whatever - or ignore it and try to keep my self-confidence alive and well.


I wasn't criticizing them for no longer listening to the judges. I was just pointing out that they have obviously come to the conclusion that the judges' opinions have no value.

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 1:32:35 PM   
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Just saw a news article in which Nigel says Jason should have gotten the boot last week instead of Carly...

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Now a top Idol exec, Nigel Lythgoe has said that he thinks Jason Castro should have gone home -- but was saved by his fan club.

Exec producer Nigel Lythgoe told the Extra show that he was surprised Carly was sent packing on Wednesday, adding, "In my opinion, I felt that Jason was the weakest in the bunch.

"But he’s got a following, a good following.”


What are y'all thinking about the negative biases being shown by the judges and now the show's producers? (Regardless of who it is - I still would have posted this news article, even if the person being discussed would have been David A or Brooke...)

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 1:36:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: txhoneydarlin

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It's pretty obvious to me that Jason and David C have lost all respect for the judges' critiques. Syesha barely listens to the judges anymore. Brooke looked to be on her own cocktail of happy pills this week as the judges' comments barely phased her. And Paula actually called David A a savant on live television. Yikes.

My predictions from yesterday stand. Brooke is going home tonight. Jason has a huge fan base. Syesha may be in danger but she shouldn't be.


Maybe I shouldn't defend the contestants who choose not to listen to the judges' critiques, but at some point, you have to admit that when you recognize something as having no value or of being totally false, you tune out too... I know from a personal standpoint that when something negative or insubstantial/insignificant comes my way - and keeps coming my way - I either have to agree with it and feel terrible about myself/my situation/whatever - or ignore it and try to keep my self-confidence alive and well.


I wasn't criticizing them for no longer listening to the judges. I was just pointing out that they have obviously come to the conclusion that the judges' opinions have no value.


What do y'all think about the value of the judges' opinions?

I personally feel like the judges are biased unfairly against some contestants - and gushing about others... Another important fact to consider is that earlier this season, Randy made the comment that he wants to work with this season's winner - he's all for David A and totally against Jason, and it shows in his comments.

What kind of an impact has this had on the show? And do you think it is a supporting issue for those who believe the show is rigged in some form or fashion?

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 1:37:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: laura...

It's pretty obvious to me that Jason and David C have lost all respect for the judges' critiques. Syesha barely listens to the judges anymore. Brooke looked to be on her own cocktail of happy pills this week as the judges' comments barely phased her.


I'm not sure why you'd say that about David C.? He's been praised for being original and questioned the one time he sang the song as written, so he's continuing to be original and modern. Every time Simon says he's "cocky" or "arrogant" he comes back the next week sufficiently humble (Personally I don't think he's cocky -- nearly every time he smiles Simon says that.)

I think Brooke had gotten feedback about how her comments to the judges were sounding, and so last week she didn't say anything. She must've also gotten feedback about how "pouty" she looked and tried to "beam" this week.


I say that about David C. because of the totally blank stare he gives the judges throughout their comments. Brooke and David A. are the only ones who seem to still care about what the judges say. I'm guessing that Brooke stopped her comments because the producers have told her to cut it out.

This is such a strange season of AI. In the past one could at least count on Simon for honesty even if he was totally wrong. This season he's making veiled criticisms by sarcastically saying a song was a "smart choice".

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 1:42:28 PM   
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Just saw a news article in which Nigel says Jason should have gotten the boot last week instead of Carly...

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Now a top Idol exec, Nigel Lythgoe has said that he thinks Jason Castro should have gone home -- but was saved by his fan club.

Exec producer Nigel Lythgoe told the Extra show that he was surprised Carly was sent packing on Wednesday, adding, "In my opinion, I felt that Jason was the weakest in the bunch.

"But he’s got a following, a good following.”


What are y'all thinking about the negative biases being shown by the judges and now the show's producers? (Regardless of who it is - I still would have posted this news article, even if the person being discussed would have been David A or Brooke...)


I'm beginning to think they're idiots. Why on earth would a record producer not want someone with a huge and strong fan base to win? HELLO!! Fans buy records...

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What do y'all think about the value of the judges' opinions?


My opinion is that the judges' opinions this season have been bought.

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 1:44:11 PM   
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At this point, it's out of the judges hands, from what I understand. So...who cares what they think as far as the contestants are concerned.

IMO, as much as Simon acts like a ... well, you know what, he's usually spot on in his remarks. I may not like his delivery, but I usually agree with him.

AI is a contest of who has the largest fan base and if you look at consumers today, it's gonna be a teenager cell phone call...who best fits the mold for teens today?

Jason for sure - guys and gals both can like him (he's like the Kenny Rogers of 2008, just not as talented)
David A - he's got the screaming girl vote for sure
Brooke - I think it's just a fascination with her hair

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 1:51:17 PM   
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I'm beginning to think they're idiots. Why on earth would a record producer not want someone with a huge and strong fan base to win? HELLO!! Fans buy records...


Exactly! It all makes no sense to me - especially if they want positive reviews of Idol - to not market someone who has a huge fan base to start with. I know David A has a fan base - I'm not discounting this - but I'd be willing to bet it's mostly teeny-boppers, whereas fans of all ages seem to really closely identify with David C, Jason and yes, even Brooke...

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My opinion is that the judges' opinions this season have been bought.


Who has the money to buy them though? Now there's a topic for discussion!

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ORIGINAL: doinkdom

At this point, it's out of the judges hands, from what I understand. So...who cares what they think as far as the contestants are concerned.


But is it really out of the judges' hands? I think that is the issue being most widely discussed today - the actual influence/decision-making/elimination powers that the judges and producers of Idol have... What is the American public supposed to think after Paula's serious, serious mistake last night?

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 2:16:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: txhoneydarlin
But is it really out of the judges' hands? I think that is the issue being most widely discussed today - the actual influence/decision-making/elimination powers that the judges and producers of Idol have... What is the American public supposed to think after Paula's serious, serious mistake last night?


I was just saying that the decision is not with the judges (although yes, they have influence) but it is with the fans now.

I would think that many people vote against what the judges say for no real reason other than they can.

If a judge insults their favorite, then they make an extra effort to call in their vote.

and Paula...good grief...they need to change her meds or put her on some or something

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 3:39:52 PM   
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Love this quote from the Dallas News, " On Tuesday night, Paula Abdul stepped out of American Idol and into The Twilight Zone."



That's my home newspaper! And I love the quote. I don't really know what to say about Paula's blunder. I don't mind if the judges make notes during rehearsals, that way you can compare rehearsal to the final performance. But how in the world can you be so spaced out that you thought the contestant had sung two songs instead of one? That is just totally bizarre. Poor Simon and Randy probably wanted to crawl under the table.

Although I still watch the show, I agree with your husband, Memaw. I hate it when Paula gives her "comments." Geesh, half the time she's giving a fashion critique. You may not agree with Randy or Simon, but at least they criticize the songs.

As for old vs. new, there's nothing in contemporary music I would care to hear on Idol. Most of it sounds the same to me. Young people may not be able to relate to older stars, but this is part of their musical heritage, and they need to know about them. I think the exposure does them good.

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 3:50:04 PM   
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Poor Simon and Randy probably wanted to crawl under the table.


I've watched the blunder on youtube and Simon rolls his eyes at what Paula said!

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RE: American Idol Season 7 - 4/30/2008 3:59:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: doinkdom

I was just saying that the decision is not with the judges (although yes, they have influence) but it is with the fans now.

I would think that many people vote against what the judges say for no real reason other than they can.

If a judge insults their favorite, then they make an extra effort to call in their vote.

and Paula...good grief...they need to change her meds or put her on some or something


You are a woman after my own heart! I love going against the judges when I vote - especially when it's my fave contestant that they have just insulted... grrr As for Paula, I think she's the one thing that anyone is agreeing on today... She needs to seek some serious help for her addictions, huh?

I'm so wondering how they are going to handle Paula's blunder on Idol tonight. Do y'all think they'll address it at all or act like nothing's happened?

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As for old vs. new, there's nothing in contemporary music I would care to hear on Idol. Most of it sounds the same to me. Young people may not be able to relate to older stars, but this is part of their musical heritage, and they need to know about them. I think the exposure does them good.


I agree that they need that exposure - I just wonder how pertinent the songs are to them becoming modern musicians and trying to compete in today's "top charts" world. Does that make more sense?

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