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momma-mo -> Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (1/7/2008 9:14:00 PM)

Um, this should get interesting... but, does anyone watch it? And am I the only one that wants desperately to tell them that those things are demons? They've got it half right. When they a "harmless" they call them ghosts. When they are violent they call them demons. They also refuse to use the ouiji (Spelling?)board as they feel it opens portals and invites trouble....

I do like that their first priority is to prove they aren't there. And some of their conclusions (Pipes, magnetic fields, house locations, etc.) are more sane than those British people on another channel that go around singing to the ghosts, having seances etc....

Okay! Have fun! I am praying for the people of TAPS. They need the truth...and I worry that something will go home with them.....



Okami -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (1/7/2008 10:04:11 PM)

Ya, I've watched it.
I like how they go in to disprove everything. They do catch some unusual stuff on video and sound.
And ya, I wish I could just talk to them through the tv too.
They have a "demonologist" that shows up with them occasionally when they feel something needs to be chased out, and he goes through this ritual of sprinkling and rreading verses.
I hate thinking of the poor people that probably have something worse coming along after that.



Miss Giggles -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (1/7/2008 10:09:10 PM)

I've seen it, the old episodes are funny because they were plumbers during the day and their staff was always contacting them at the clients homes and they had the cameras there.

But there is a lot of unexplainable stuff in those shows too. The international show starts on Wednesday which will be interesting. Some of those places have hundreds of years of stories of the same things occurring.



Okami -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (1/8/2008 11:43:08 PM)

Ya, I've seen a couple of their overseas ones.
They attribute the stronger demonic manifestations to being "elementals".



momma-mo -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (1/10/2008 11:18:56 AM)

It frustrates me that they aren't getting it right. But, I think we should pray for these folks. Weirdly enough one of the reasons I watch it is to see what tricks the supernatural world uses, and what deceptions they create.

The Bible says that it is appointed ONCE for man to die, and then the judgment, but sadly the demons, posing as "ghosts" have people fooled into believing these are poor tortured souls caught in some sort of limbo! What I don't like is when the hunters tell them they are harmless and then leave them there with a house full of demons. It would really be great if someone saved got on the team and "enlightened" them and that they would actually tell these things to leave. I wonder how many folks have things get worse after they are gone and have been told to not worry!

One thing we find funny is that these guys will talk to the entities without fear, but if a moth flies at them, or a spider shows up....they scream like little girls and flee![:D]



violetlight -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (1/10/2008 3:41:44 PM)

I have watched this show and yes, I have wanted to watch mainly to see what deceptions demons put out there.

I wish these folks were saved too! Thanks for reminding me to pray for them [;)]



barbhuff -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (1/11/2008 10:17:53 PM)

Grant proclaims himself a Christian and talks frequently about how frustrated he is that the religious community often ostracizes people instead of embracing them and helping them in these situations. Jay speaks of religion being personal.

I grew up in a home where the piano played, footsteps walked through the attic, and cupboard doors with latches would open on their own. Doors would refuse to open and sometimes not shut for anything.

When I was eleven years old, something shook me awake in the middle of the night and a stern but kind voice said, "Go get your brother now." As I was trying to wake up and decide if I was dreaming, my little brother came out of his room and into mine. Right after he walked in my room, a big chunk of plaster that covered his whole bed fell.

My mom always said that our house had ghosts but it had angels, too, and none of us kids were ever afraid. I don't think everything "supernatural" is demonic. I love Ghost Hunters, and I think I'm going to like Ghost Hunters International, too.

That other ghost show... what's it called... Most Haunted, maybe... I can't even watch it. All the shaking tables and "possessions" where ghosts are talking through them and stuff is just ridiculous.



momma-mo -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (1/14/2008 10:39:01 AM)

I agree. I believe there are angelic beings present with us also. Sometimes, when we come under attack, we see only that there is something scary after us, but God has placed guardians with us, and the word within us, and the Holy Spirit. We only have to stand on His Word and the blood and these things must leave. (Been there, done that....)

I can't stomach the other ghost show. It is so stupid and they are so reckless. They don't even try to debunk, or to help, they are pure sensationalism! Letting something speak through you is the height of stupidity...unless it's the Holy Spirit with prophecy or a word of knowledge/wisdom.

I can see that a couple of them in TAPS acknowledge having faith and I think they have been protected despite the fact that they don't understand it as well as they should. I pray that someday they will grasp it better, and be fully aware of how to handle it.

Anyone noticed that the "spirits" in the British Isles seem to be more aggressive? Wonder if it has to do with the deep history of paganism, witches, satanism, etc.....



Fantasylion -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (1/17/2008 11:50:06 PM)

I love this show very much. It's nice that they try to disprove a "haunting" before they approve it.

Most Haunted? I can't stand that show in the least. It's just... so fake. They don't seem to know what they're doing, and they go by pure "instinct". It annoys me how they take every bump and sound to be something paranormal.



violetlight -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (1/18/2008 1:09:41 PM)

Most Haunted is a total joke.

Yes I love that they go into a house/building to disprove, and many many times they do just that. It just shows that a lot of "hauntings" can actually be explained/debunked. I love that mindframe, rather than the "i heard a bump - it's a ghost!"

I laugh every time I see Brian wear the "Dude, Run!" hat...



PaleHawkWoman -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (1/22/2008 11:46:23 PM)

I used to wonder why anyone would be so stupid as to go into a place where a bunch of angry spirits reside and go looking for trouble. You would never see any Native folks even thinking about doing that. Yeah, I've seen, heard, felt, and smelt bad spirits and it is NOT a fun experience. People who play around with that sort of stuff really do not know what they are doing and that kind of ignorance is dangerous.

On the flip side, it is funny to watch people getting scared witless and how they react to things they suddenly realize they have no control over.

As far as the places they go to, I'm far more interested in the history and stories of those places than I am how many haints they've got roaming around. Most of them have fascinating histories, if a bit bloody.



amygrantfan5875 -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (1/23/2008 2:01:58 PM)

I love Ghost hunters and the Ghost hunters International.

There's a new show out called Paranormal State on A&E (I think it's A&E) that's been pretty interesting too.

As for Most Haunted if you look at it as the piece of comedy that it is you can have a good laugh. The first time I saw this show I laughed hard. Saturday Night did a skit based on Most Haunted one time it was hilarious!!



glama_girly -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (1/26/2008 7:11:42 AM)

I quite enjoy that show as entertaiinment value, though I have had to see most of the episodes on YouTube, as it doesn't show on our TV here in Australia. I must admit however, they take a lot of risks that I certainly wouldn't even attempt. I just hope and prey that they never encounter anything that causes them any serious harm. They are walking in totally unknown territory and that is always very risky.



momma-mo -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (1/28/2008 6:54:54 PM)

Serious harm is something I worry about with the Ghost Hunters. A couple of them have been semi-attacked, but, they haven't really encountered what these things can really be like. They know they are being filmed. They aren't stupid....the demons are giving people the wrong idea...that they are benevolent......I'd love to see a spirit filled Christian go along with them![:D] That would really make the "spirits" nervous.



cherokeehippie -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (4/17/2008 4:05:53 AM)

So...I'm not the only christian that is guilty of watching Ghosthunters...LOL! I confess, I watch ghosthunters...They were in Eureka Springs at the Crescent Hotel(the one where they got a figure standing where a locker was with the number 2 glowing)...I've been to the Crescent and yes,...I feel the creeps there....many times, a place gets demonized because of much sorrow nad bloodshed (battlefields, mass murder, etc)..and because occult rituals occurred there that cause an opening for these things to take place...the Crescent started out as a hotel, then later became a hospital for cancer patients led by a quack doctor who did stupid stuff experiements, etc, on the people and many died. But for some reason...when I first walked into the lobby of the hotel one night...I somehow discerned there was something about the huge fire place in the lobby...I went over to it...and to my shock...noticed on the mantel, a carved figure of a demonic creature..combination between a bat and owl...Here's a picture of it on someone's website.

http://picasaweb.google.com/michigansotherside/CrescentHotel/photo#5116776121014903650

http://picasaweb.google.com/michigansotherside/CrescentHotel/photo#5116777134627185666

It really creeped me out and made me think of either the giant owl at Bohemian Grove that has a mock sacrifice(maybe not mocked...could be actual) where a body is thrown in a fire under the owl...
I wonder if that fireplace is the open portal for these things to come in the hotel for some reason...

The Crescent was built by wealthy entrepeuners/railroad men,..and many like that were known to be in secret occultic organizations.

I will not stay there, no way!!! (one time I was on a trip, and I stopped and got a room at Motel 6..I went in my room, and I felt a spirit of depression...a gloominess in that room...I went back to the lobby and asked them for a different room, and sure enough it was much brighter. )

Supposely, the whole town of Eureka is suppose to be haunted(probably because of all the new age stuff that goes on there)...

I think it would be cool if there was a 'christian ghosthunters' team to go in and cast those things out of people's homes and minister to the people.



Miss Giggles -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (4/17/2008 8:58:44 AM)

This new seasons been pretty boring

The guy on Paranormal State on A&E is a catholic so it is kind of like a christian ghosthunters..they'd go around and cleanse the houses and stuff.



rnershigh -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (4/17/2008 4:17:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PaleHawkWoman

I used to wonder why anyone would be so stupid as to go into a place where a bunch of angry spirits reside and go looking for trouble. You would never see any Native folks even thinking about doing that. Yeah, I've seen, heard, felt, and smelt bad spirits and it is NOT a fun experience. People who play around with that sort of stuff really do not know what they are doing and that kind of ignorance is dangerous.

On the flip side, it is funny to watch people getting scared witless and how they react to things they suddenly realize they have no control over.

As far as the places they go to, I'm far more interested in the history and stories of those places than I am how many haints they've got roaming around. Most of them have fascinating histories, if a bit bloody.


LOL, I agree! I would not go waltzing around an old, creaky house at night! No way, especially if there were things around there...maybe it's because I watch too many horror movies, but my imagination would run wild. Not to mention, like you said, that is courting danger!

I also agree with the OP, these aren't ghosts at all, just demons trying to fool those gullible humans...sigh.[8D] But, I still have watched an episode or two...shhhhh don't tell anyone! [:D]



momma-mo -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (4/21/2008 1:12:29 AM)

When we go to hotels I pray before we get there that God will bind up any "presents" left by other guests and pray for His angels to go ahead of us. Seems to work!

Demons can be attracted to objects and symbols. (Like the demonic creature over the fireplace.) I remember on my honeymoon we bought a game at a store and had it out on the floor when we went to bed. Late at night I heard a voice...telling me that the game was attracting demons to our room. I felt the presence of an angel...I could also feel the demonic visitors...I realized the game had the shape of a pentagram on it! My sleepy husband took my word for it and took it out to a dumpster and ripped it up so nobody else would play it! We prayed, covered ourselves with the blood...and slept well! :)



SAVDFRMDRKNES -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (7/1/2008 11:55:48 PM)

Now I am still new to being a christian but this to me could also show people who do not believe in eternity to rethink right? Maybe somehow this could open their minds more versus soemone coming to their door or acting in kindness to them. I think if people realize that there are demons and they are real than maybe they could some how turn and see there is also a God that loves them as well right? It just blows my mind how people can watch those shows and not see that there is an evil that is real and not want to turn to God.



cinwood -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (7/2/2008 9:22:45 AM)

I, too, am relieved that I'm not the only Christian who likes to watch Ghost Hunters. I also believe and know that demons inhabit places (and people). I am fascinated that anyone in their right mind would go into a "haunted" place and try to provoke spirits into showing themselves. Yikes!!!

On another note: the shows I really despise are the ones where a medium "communicates" with dead loved ones. Those poor family members really believe in that bunk. It makes me furious with the mediums - they are using familiar spirits and channeling to prey on grieving people. I guess this is for another thread...



TorchHeart -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (7/2/2008 11:07:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: violetlight

Most Haunted is a total joke.

Yes I love that they go into a house/building to disprove, and many many times they do just that. It just shows that a lot of "hauntings" can actually be explained/debunked. I love that mindframe, rather than the "i heard a bump - it's a ghost!"

I laugh every time I see Brian wear the "Dude, Run!" hat...


I'm also glad that I'm not the only Christian on here who watches Ghost Hunters on occasion. I'll confess that I've always had an interest in the paranomral, so for me its interesting to see how they go about their investigation.

I do like the fact that they go into places to disprove hauntings rather than instantly go in and assume that the location is haunted. A skeptics mindset is the best approach for something like this, especially if you're going to consider it a "science."

Did anyone ever see the episode where they went into the prison that the book/movie "The Shawshank Redemption" was based off of?



Blazingson -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (7/2/2008 2:28:51 PM)

Personally, I think all of you ar giving the shows too much credit. I believe that everybody on all of those shows are actors and the things they witness are special effects.
I rarely miss an episode and I am thoroughly entertained each time.
Nothing I've seen on those programs are anything I couldn't reproduce myself.



angie4God -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (7/2/2008 3:39:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Blazingson

Personally, I think all of you ar giving the shows too much credit. I believe that everybody on all of those shows are actors and the things they witness are special effects.
I rarely miss an episode and I am thoroughly entertained each time.
Nothing I've seen on those programs are anything I couldn't reproduce myself.


I got to catch an episode. It was interesting. But, I've wondered the same thing. How do we know that the stuff happening itsn't just some special effects or they're saying somethings happened that didn't..like in the one episode I saw the one guy said he felt a tug on his pant leg. How do we know it really happened? I gues it's entertaining even though it's probably fake....kinda like WWF wrestling eh??[8D]



SAVDFRMDRKNES -> RE: Ghost Hunters-Sci Fi Channel (7/2/2008 4:37:30 PM)

I dont know. I mean I suppose people would watch it if it were fake but at the same time spiritual warfare is very real. I agree on the mediums and ouiji boards thats really pllaying and crossing into witchcraft but these people do need a christian to show them that if they are real that they are not just playing with some invisable force that wont or cant harm them. I also think that almost everything on tv is meant to distract us from our lord and savior. There really isnt much christian television that people tivo. I mean when was the last time you told your friends you couldnt go out beacuse you didnt want to miss the next episode of 7th heaven?



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