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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 3/30/2008 9:36:57 PM
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pumpkin
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well, since you are going in on Tues. you could always take a test that morning... and if it seems inconclusive or hard to read you could take it with you..... or something. =)
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 3/30/2008 10:04:01 PM
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Hi ladies. I'm sorry I haven't posted for awhile. I am a little stressed these days. I am planning our vacation in two weeks and I'm trying to plan a surprise birthday party for my husband two weeks after that....things have been busy and it's very stressful trying to keep such a big secret. I've had to tell little white lies in order to get email addresses for my husbands friends, God forgive me.
Sorry that things are so confusing for both of you right now. Hopefully you will get some answers soon. I'm getting AF today, just started spotting and have been having bad cramps, so I'm out. I think one thing I need courage to do is to ask people to pray for us. We have kind of kept this pretty quiet, other than our parents, and a few close friends. We haven't really told our Bible study, whom we've been with for 2.5 years. I don't know why it's such a hard thing for me to talk about with others. Do you ladies feel the same way? My mom asked if we've ever had anyone pray over us and I guess I never really thought about it, we've just asked some to pray for us.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 3/31/2008 9:25:18 AM
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Noelle,
I do find it difficult to ask people to pray about this for us as well.
My parents know, and will pray. A few "select" friends know... but our Sunday School class in general does not know. In fact, only 2 couples within it know. We have a general idea of what (bad) could happen because we have friends who announced that they were struggling with infertility, and someone within the larger Sunday school department decided to push a product on them. (saying such things as, "I KNOW this will help you, you NEED to take it"... they were already seeing specialists and going through IUI's, and such.. ) So, we are a little leary of making it well known that we are struggling with this. We highly doubt that the same person would push the same thing on us... due to the fall out in the situation... but it's still hard, because you never really know how people will react. Plus... it's just plain uncomfy sharing that you and hubby want a baby, and have been trying, but it's not working... it's like it's utterly personal, and I have a hard time sharing very personal things. In a way I kinda feel like it's sharing something publicly about our sex life, and that just makes me feel weird.
One person that we did tell... *sigh* When I first started taking the clomid... she said, "oh, so David's gonna have a really great couple of days, huh?? right??" I looked at her, and sighed, and said, "well, no. That's not how it works. You take it for 5 days, and hopefully 5-10 days after that you ovulate." She just said, "oh, oh well.. no harm in trying, right..."I just walked away shaking my head. I don't want sex advice. I don't like sex talk. *sigh*
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 3/31/2008 10:30:06 PM
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I know what you mean Gina. I think a lot of it is fear over how they will react. You just get tired of the same one-liners (in God's timing... Have you gone to the doctor yet? That must be hard...have you thought about adoption....etc.) It's like you have to have a response for every question handy and usually I don't even want to talk about it. I also feel ashamed sometimes too, like I just want to say "yes, I already know I have a defective body that can't reproduce so don't bother with a lame comment because it won't help me feel less defective". And how exactly to I talk about my ovaries with a bunch of middle aged men in my Bible study?
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 3/31/2008 10:42:49 PM
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I would hope the middle aged men would either be uninterested in talking about specifics for conception issues, or have good questions... but it's hard to say.
I had to explain to my parents (both of them) about ovulation, and how you can have your period even if you don't ovulate, and when you ovulate.. and all that sort of stuff. Then I also had to explain why I take my temperature. I also had to explain what clomid is for. Basically every step of the way, I need to explain in detail to my parents, because they want to understand, and they want to pray... but sometimes I feel like it's a bit backwards that I am explaining to them how the female body works, and all that.
That said, I don't want to have the same conversations with acquaintances, or people I barely know at all... let alone some of the people who are closer, but just don't know, and may say inappropriate things.
It's funny though. I know more about the female body than I thought I would ever want or need to know. I also know quite a bit about male issues, and such... and sometimes I wish I could go back to not knowing... but then it was frustrating there too.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/1/2008 10:54:34 PM
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PTL!!! My biopsy results were normal.
Doc is setting up a scope (with laser) on either the 11th or 18th (depending on schedule)...to give me a "tune up" to speak. We'll get rid of the cysts, fibroid (?), polyps (if present), and whatever else is there (while keeping the ovaries and other needed "accessories" to make babies). He'll also run dye to make sure the tubes are open, etc. All the good stuff.....
I'll have to be off work for a week after the procedure....but it's an outpatient "surgery" through the belly button.
Oh and as for talking about things with perfect strangers...I know how you feel, ladies. I am becoming more open (DH's entire family is very open when talking about sex...so I guess I have to get used to it). Believe it or not, I have started gaming online with some Christian men (my DH being the one that got me started). Anyway, they have a forum & I've asked for prayer regarding my doctor's appointments. I just don't give any specifics because I think it would embarrass both parties WAY too much. Besides....God knows the need!!!
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/5/2008 10:58:23 AM
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well, I had a call from my doctor's office yesterday. After 2 months of testing post ovulation, the doctor has decided to agree with me that my progesterone levels are too low. (this is with using a progesterone cream that is topical) So, they are now recommending that I use "micronized progesterone" which I will have to get a prescription filled (that they called in) for that, and I'll have to take that after I ovulate, and take it in the morning and again in the eveningh.
Right now... I'm just sick sick sick. I have had a cold or something going on for about a week and a half now. Today I can't talk, and I'm coughing in a rather unpleasant way... I sound awful! I just want to feel well again.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/7/2008 6:18:43 PM
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My partner and I have been trying for a baby for the past 3 years and nothing has happened yet. My partner has been tested and all is fine with him it seems to be me thats the problem. I have had tests which have shown that I have a double cervix and double womb which although the doctor says I could fall pregnant it doesnt seem to be happening no matter what I try. I am 35 now and starting to panic that it will never happen and what makes it worse is although I dont begrudge them but one by one all off my friends have or are having babies and it makes it all the more difficult to cope with
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/9/2008 9:16:04 AM
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Hi Manda, I'm sorry that you are having issues. I have never heard of a double cervix or a double womb... that's kinda fascinating that you have 2 of each. I'm sorry that it seems to be impeding you conception desires though.
I think all but 2 of our couple friends have children... and 1 doesn't really want children, while the other went through a couple years of infertility treatments to no avail. So, while I know others who have gone through some of the stuff we are dealing with now... it's different for each couple, and they are "past" that point, so it's sometimes difficult for them to want to really listen to us with our issues... it's still painful for them I think.
David had his appointment yesterday. One of the issues that they test men for is a varicose vein in the um... well, in one of their areas. Apparently it can cause issues if they have one, and they like to do surgery if they do have one to remove it. David has a tiny one (according to the doctor) and so he doesn't think that David would need it removed. Next they want to test him again, and test his blood for hormone levels. IF his testosterone levels are low, that could be an issue... but instead of giving him testosterone, they said they would give him clomid. (we found that funny and fascinating) So, we could theoretically end up on the same fertility drug. However for men, they give it differently. They have them take it every other day for (I think) 72 days. They also recommended that he take a vitamin... they have a specific one in mind, with a certain formulation. I'm not really sure what happens if his blood test comes back normal, we didn't think to ask that.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/9/2008 11:17:52 AM
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/9/2008 4:41:35 PM
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Hi Pumpkin, yes I have two of each, I'm rare apparently lucky me! the doctor says it occurs when the baby (me) is developing. Apparently its as a girl is being formed their womb grows in two parts and then fuses together which mine hasn't. There are diffrent forms and mine is the rareist... which he said is a good thing? Mine work totally independant of each other, some are partially fused which is worse and extreamly hard to concieve and high risk to miscarrage. Although it is very hard for me to concieve it is possible and if I ever do I would have to use contreception incase I fall pregnant in the other womb as well.... this can and has happened. I'd just be happy with the one.
I can understand for you that hard to talk to your friends especially with them being in the same boat previously so to speak. I am lucky in the fact that my best friend Viki went through IVF 9 years ago now and was fortunate to fall pregnant with twins so she does understand where I am coming from. My other friends however don't really know what to say and feel awkward which they shouldn't. A close friend of mine is due in two weeks from now and since she fell pregnant she has been very distant from me as I'm sure she thinks she will upset me but that just makes it horrible. I am overjoyed for her it has nothing to do with my situation.
I hope everything goes well for David, i've never heard of a VV in the "you know". And I really hope his blood tests come back all alright x
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/10/2008 5:15:30 PM
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well, what's going on with you girls?? =)
I called my doctor today because I am on CD 35, and no period, or signs of it coming soon. I took a test on Sunday that was negative. They have decided that I need a blood serum pregnancy test, and if it's negative then I do the progesterone thing. If it's positive... well... that would be great, but I'm not holding my breath on that. =) (I do really doubt that it's positive, but surprises are nice)
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/10/2008 9:07:45 PM
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Surprises are always nice!!! That would be so awesome, Gina :)
Let's see....me....I'm just waiting at this point in time. My pre-op visit is on the 15th and surgery is scheduled for the 18th. It would definitely be a surprise if we're expecting. Not sure if that would be good or bad!
Good--we'd have a baby sooner....
Bad---I'd still have the problems (cysts, fibroid, etc.) & still need surgery....
Never did take another test. I figured I would just wait until the doctor does one (they'll have to FOR SURE rule out pregnancy BEFORE the surgery).
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/10/2008 11:37:12 PM
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We leave for vacation tomorrow, the timing is perfect, it will be CD 11-19. No worries about PMS, period, pain, etc. My last period was extremely painful. I would not be suprised at all if I do have endometriosis. I just feel like there's more going on down there than what's normal each month.
I have my follow up ultrasound right after we get back from our trip. Until then, I don't want to think about our infertility and just enjoy our trip. Good luck with your surgery, I'm sure everything will go fine.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/15/2008 4:35:46 PM
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well, the blood test was negative... as anticipated. Now I have to take progesterone to start things.... ugh.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/15/2008 11:45:01 PM
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Noelle---have fun on your trip!!! Thank God for vacations :)
Sorry to hear, Gina. (((Hugs)))
I went in for my pre-op visit today. Basically I just signed some paperwork. The doc told me more about what they're doing (scope through belly button, up through cervix to look for polyps, biopsy whatever needs to be biopsied, zap cysts, make sure things are flowing through fallopian tubes [yes, using dye], D & C....go from there.
Before that...I have to go have labwork. UA and blood....looking at HCG hormones, thyroid, CBC, can't think of what else doc said. I'll go in for that tomorrow morning before I head out to work (they open at 7---that's one advantage of not having to be at work until 8 now).
I'm so thankful that surgery is on Friday. I've had some pretty bad pain off & on. Right now it's fairly dull....but persistent. I describe it as a 5 to my doctor...as in...it's bearable....but....I could really do without it.
Guess that's about all. Please keep me in your prayers on Friday as there is always the risk that something could go wrong in surgery.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/18/2008 8:34:06 AM
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nothing much new here... I just wanted to say
Megan I'm praying for you.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/18/2008 7:52:47 PM
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Thank you for your prayers, Gina.
Everything seemed to go very well from what I was told by DH. I haven't talked to the doctor yet. Anyway, the doc told DH that he removed from excessive scar tissue (from my C-section in 2003) & the cysts. Ovaries were left intact. My fallopian tubes are open.
Thanks to God & pain meds, I am not in too much pain at all.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/22/2008 10:25:40 PM
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I am glad the procedure went well Megan, hopefully it will help you!
I am a bit overwhelmed right now. We just got back from vacation, so work has been very stressful trying to catch up. We have a wedding to go to this weekend, out of town. The following weekend is the surprise birthday party for my husband and I still have things I need to do for it.
I went for my follow up ultrasound yesterday. My ovarian cyst doubled in size, it is now 8 cm. I have to schedule a laporoscopic surgery, Megan is this what you had? The problem is, my doc is going on vacation, and i may need to do it before my husband's suprise party next weekend (earlier in the week). The recovery is only supposed to be a few days, but I'm stressed out enough as it is I can't imagine throwing in a minor surgery into my schedule. I was hoping for the week after, but the doc will be on vacation, and later than that just is waiting too long and doesn't fit with my schedule either  .
Other than than, my vacation was nice.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/22/2008 11:43:26 PM
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Noelle, glad you enjoyed your vacation!!! Wow...8 cm is a pretty good sized cyst (nearly 4 inches, right?).
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I have to schedule a laparoscopic surgery, Megan is this what you had? The recovery is only supposed to be a few days, but I'm stressed out enough as it is I can't imagine throwing in a minor surgery into my schedule.
Yes, I had laparoscopic surgery on Friday to remove the cysts as well as some endometriosis. My doctor told me to take a week off & go back to work the following Monday. Today I feel all right although I was rather tired earlier in the day. I've only taken one pain pill. Surgery was 4 days ago. If your doc can do surgery earlier in the week, I would say to go for it, Noelle. May I remind you....each woman recovers differently!!!
As for my follow-up doc visit today, it was fairly routine. I am healing well from my surgery (yay!). When I was at the doctor office, my head hurt worse than my pelvic area. (Lack of caffeine caused a headache....once I got some caffeine....it is better). I've only taken ONE pain pill today and will probably take another before bed.
I got to see pictures of the work done...wowsers. Let's just say my ovaries looked like polka dotted balls (cuz of the amount of cysts). It was great to see pretty blue in the fallopian tubes! 
Doc said to wait a couple of cycles before trying to conceive(TTC). DH will be out of town for 4 weeks. We'll probably resume TTC when he gets home.
Guess that's about all for now, ladies. I did ask doc about other medication & he doesn't seem to think I'll need any. Not sure if I agree with that, but we'll keep trying for now & see what happens. (I'll be moving this summer; therefore, I will have to find a new doctor then.)
Noelle, keep me posted on when your surgery is & how it goes. I'll be praying for you.
Gina, you're at the beginning of a new cycle, right?
Hugs & prayers to you ladies....
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/23/2008 9:10:06 AM
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actually, no, not yet. Currently I am on CD 48. *sigh* I had a blood test come back negative not last Friday, but the one prior to that. (so, on.... let's see.... 11th?) Anyway, I didn't get the results until about Tuesday of last week.. or was it Wednesday.
Anyway, on Tuesday my hubby went to the doctor and was sent for x-rays the following day for his ankle and knee, and for an ultrasound to rule out a blood clot. Everything came back clear except for the ankle, which is broken. So, we had to rush back to the doctor on Wednesday to get a boot cast placed on his ankle, and get new crutches. Then we were told to make sure that he had an appointment with an orthopedist the next day. So, on Thursday he saw the ortho. and he was baffled by the break in his ankle, as there is no injury preceeding it. They didn't even want to talk about his knee, which was the main issue, as they really couldn't do much more for the broken ankle. In the end they gave David a cortisone shot in his knee, and said they want to see him again in 3 weeks. IF the ankle is not healing well, they want to do surgery.
On Friday he had an appointment with the urologist about the fertility testing... and his testosterone levels are low. The way to up that is to take clomid... so we're both doing clomid now. Although I only take it for 5 days at a time, and he will take it daily.
We went on vacation on Friday and came back late Monday.
Tuesday I had to go to the regular doctor because I have a sinus infection and an eye infection in both eyes.
The nurse there yesterday asked me when my last period was. I told him it was in the beginning of March, and he paused, and started to ask a question, and I said.... "but I've been to my gynocologist, and they've done testing and I'm not pregnant, and I'm supposed to start taking progesterone to start my period." Which is all true, but I've not done it yet. There's just been so very much that's been going on... it's just hard to want to add something else to the mix.
We went to the pharmacy for the 2 of us yesterday and spent about $125 on prescriptions... and we didn't even get "everything" that had been prescribed.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/23/2008 9:23:44 AM
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to respond more to what you ladies were talking about...
Noelle, I'm sorry that your cyst is growing so rapidly... that's a little scary. Plus, you sound as though you have a lot of stress going on right now too. I know from my surgery last year, their main concern is that the cyst will rupture and they'll have to do something as an emergency, rather than as a planned event. Mine was the size of a grapefruit when they removed it.
Even though laparoscopic surgery is minor, it's still surgery, and I wouldn't plan on being able to do too much right away. With mine last year, the doctor said that it would take about 2 weeks for me to feel like I was "ok", and it could take up to 6 weeks to feel back to normal completely. You know what? I didn't want to do much at all... and in fact couldn't do much.. for 2 weeks, and I really didn't feel healed and such until about 8 weeks. Then I started to feel completely back to myself. I mean, I was able to do a lot of stuff, but nothing major.
Megan, I'm glad your surgery went well, and that the doctor was able to get everything out that he felt needed to be taken out... and that he was able to check everything. That in itself is a bit reassuring. We saw pictures after my surgery too, and it was something else to see the size of the cysts that they removed. I didn't see pictures of fallopian tubes or anything like that though... just the cysts.
I know after my surgery, I didn't even get my period until, I think, 8 weeks post surgery. (I just checked my charts, and yep, it was 8 weeks)
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/23/2008 11:00:49 AM
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The weird thing is I feel like I'm having my period now, Gina. At least it seems that way. Is that possible? When I asked the doctor yesterday how long I could expect to bleed after surgery, he said there could be spotting for a week. This isn't spotting! Sorry if that's TMI.
DH hasn't been tested. He's talked about going in for a physical before he leaves for 4 weeks. Guess we'll wait & see...as he HATES going to the doctor office.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/23/2008 11:03:30 AM
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I didn't have "spotting" I had what was real bleeding. It lasted for 9 days, plus 1 day of spotting. The doctor said it was still within the normal range, and so it was ok. This surgery, for me, was only 4 days after my period. I was told that it was normal, and with all that you said your doctor took out/did, I would expect more than spotting.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 4/23/2008 11:21:59 AM
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Ok, Gina, sounds all right to me then. My surgery was only a few days ahead of when my actual menses would have started. I was expecting to start the 21st or so (with my new "normal" of late).
I really pray that I don't bleed that long. DH will be leaving either Sunday or Monday (something like that--his employer is giving the final details today...we're hoping). If I bleed, I bleed....nothing can be done except to go with the flow of things. It isn't excessively heavy.
Do you recollect if you were tired after surgery? That was my biggest "problem" yesterday & so far today is the same (as well as some pain).
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