|
Users viewing this topic:
none
|
|
Login  | |
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 2/15/2008 10:05:05 AM
|
|
|
nealmorsefan
Posts: 273
Joined: 10/18/2007
Status: offline
|
Drums and percussion elevate the musical worship experience, in my experience. Sure, certain types of drums have questionable or downright nefarious origins, but it is not the instrument that is evil or good but the user. Drums can be equated to guns in that respect. The power of a gun in the wrong hands can have serious consequences. But when used properly by a well-trained user, a gun can be a very useful instrument (hunting, peacekeeping, etc.).
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 2/16/2008 10:57:48 AM
|
|
|
freakofnature
Posts: 322
Joined: 1/17/2008
Status: offline
|
Worship is about the heart, not the instrument. We are called to praise the Lord in all things, also, nothing on earth is new, God was there when drums were created and He will be here when they are gone. Finally, David danced before the Lord, ever try to dance without Drums.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 2/16/2008 9:11:32 PM
|
|
|
PaleHawkWoman
Posts: 159
Joined: 7/14/2005
Status: offline
|
Native American believers have been told not to bring our drums into churches, that our music is pagan, etc... by the same people who think bagpipes(which DO have pagan origins) are just peachy-keen when played in church. Our people have drummed on the floor of the Israeli Knesset and for the Chief Rabbi, the Israeli President and Prime Minister, and we were honored to do so, and the Israelis honored us for doing so. Native believers have drummed and witnessed for Christ powerfully in Great Britian, Sweden, Germany, Pakistan(yes, Pakistan!), Ireland, Peru and Brazil, Mexico, Norway, China, Mongolia, and Tibet, all places which are traditionally hard ground for the Gospel. If God honored us in these places, why then aren't our drums allowed to come into churches here?
Nearly all Native American tribes are and always have been monotheistic. 2000 yrs ago when my father's Scottish, Irish, and Welsh ancestors were out-right pagans who worshipped many gods and engaged in human sacrifice and ritualistic cannibalism, and sexual perversion in the guise of fertility rites, my Cherokee, Creek, Chickasaw, and Meherrin ancestors all worshipped 1 God- the Creator, the Maker of Life, The Provider, The Almighty, The Heaven Chief, The Sacred Fire... many names but still 1 God.
Some people think pow-wows are just social or exhibition, but our dances are all prayers. To us the drum represents the heartbeat of the Creator, and when we dance, every step and move is both prayer and praise. The Oglala chief Red Cloud once told someone, "When we dance we pray. If you remember that every step is a prayer, you will always walk in a sacred manner." That pretty much sums it up.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 2/16/2008 10:12:51 PM
|
|
|
markb77
Posts: 270
Joined: 1/6/2007
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: FoxInSox
It also has Christopher Walken in it. It's about a band called Blue Oyster Cult.
(that ought to be enough for a you tube search  )
That's one of my favorite SNL sketches of all time - and I've been watching since I moved back to the states in '78. I bought the "Best of Christopher Walken on SNL" DVD just so I'd have it. (It's also on the Will Farrell DVD).
< Message edited by markb77 -- 2/17/2008 3:12:31 PM >
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 2/19/2008 1:54:34 PM
|
|
|
stephiroth
Posts: 5997
Joined: 4/4/2007
From: offline
Status: offline
|
There are some days I feel like I'm old.
This is not one of them. 
_____________________________
I've finally found my one true love...
so what if it has four strings?
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 2/19/2008 4:00:26 PM
|
|
|
uncabeeil
Posts: 5690
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: Joisey. Got a problem wit dat?
Status: online
|
quote:
Native American believers have been told not to bring our drums into churches, that our music is pagan, etc... I hope you haven't let idiocy like this change the way you praise. It's been stated a number of different ways in this thread, but it all boils down to what's in your heart.
_____________________________
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 2/21/2008 3:11:46 AM
|
|
|
RatherDashing
Posts: 7510
Joined: 6/5/2006
From: Shimmyland.
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: FoxInSox
I've got a fever...quote:
ORIGINAL: hawkfan428
...and the prescription is more cowbell!!!
Awesome.
An instrument is made evil by the hands in control of it, not solely because it's an instrument.
_____________________________
Some people say matter always existed. Great, I say God always existed.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 2/23/2008 9:33:45 AM
|
|
|
Buddrummer
Posts: 4
Joined: 2/9/2008
Status: offline
|
Thanks everyone for your thought on this
Don
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 2/23/2008 9:38:03 AM
|
|
|
Buddrummer
Posts: 4
Joined: 2/9/2008
Status: offline
|
I agree with you that that people that call drums evil are ignorant to the proper use of brushes. The style of music, and way that the instrument is played is what makes it evil.
Don
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 2/23/2008 9:41:56 AM
|
|
|
Buddrummer
Posts: 4
Joined: 2/9/2008
Status: offline
|
uncabeeil,
No I have not let talk like this stop me. Fact is I will be playing at a christian concert for local artists in March. I just wanted others feedback on the topic.
Buddrummer
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 2/23/2008 2:22:52 PM
|
|
|
bigfrank
Posts: 401
Joined: 12/2/2005
From: Battle Ground, WA
Status: offline
|
quote:
Actually there are some bad drums. They're called electronic drum sets !!! Give me real drums any day!
Good call. I'm with you.
quote:
...and the prescription is more cowbell!!! LOL
Yes! Indeed!
_____________________________
A man should never let a salad beat him.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 2/25/2008 2:04:17 PM
|
|
|
barazzi
Posts: 5
Joined: 3/7/2007
Status: offline
|
i just want to say that the 9th simphony was written for the prince of Austria.. and now we all sing it in our church. Music can't have a daemonic background. What makes a melody deamonic are the words and the way that melody is played... and of course.. for who is played too...
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 2/26/2008 2:23:34 PM
|
|
|
stephiroth
Posts: 5997
Joined: 4/4/2007
From: offline
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: bigfrank
quote:
Actually there are some bad drums. They're called electronic drum sets !!! Give me real drums any day!
Good call. I'm with you.
Yech. Ditto. 
_____________________________
I've finally found my one true love...
so what if it has four strings?
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 2/28/2008 12:00:49 PM
|
|
|
Hayseed
Posts: 686
Joined: 4/15/2006
Status: offline
|
ummm... okay, how can you play drums "evil"... really? It's more of "where you're at" and "what's going on" there. In that case, drums (or any instrument) are the least of your problems.
_____________________________
My entire goal in life is to live exactly like the man who was falsely accused of being a drunkard, heretic and a friend of sinners by the religious people. So, don't be surprised if I'm not too concerned if you think ill of me.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 2/28/2008 12:38:55 PM
|
|
|
hawkfan428
Posts: 238
Joined: 1/9/2008
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Hayseed
ummm... okay, how can you play drums "evil"... really? It's more of "where you're at" and "what's going on" there. In that case, drums (or any instrument) are the least of your problems.
Ask Slayer! LOL
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 2/28/2008 2:25:45 PM
|
|
|
freakofnature
Posts: 322
Joined: 1/17/2008
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: hawkfan428
quote:
ORIGINAL: Hayseed
ummm... okay, how can you play drums "evil"... really? It's more of "where you're at" and "what's going on" there. In that case, drums (or any instrument) are the least of your problems.
Ask Slayer! LOL
Or, you can ask Iron Maiden...oh! Wait..this just in... the Drummer for Iron Maiden...Uh...Nicko Mc...McBrain is in fact a Christian.... (LOL)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 3/1/2008 12:04:03 PM
|
|
|
percussionlover
Posts: 71
Joined: 2/29/2008
Status: offline
|
absolutely !!!!!!! i play percussion (congas etc....) in my church's praise & worship band & the congregation loves that vibe!!!!!
i get people in the congregation all the time saying how much they love the groove of the congas etc......
_____________________________
PERCUSSIONLOVER
SURFIN FOR JESUS
CONGA MAN
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 3/25/2008 4:12:53 PM
|
|
|
taffylynn
Posts: 1
Joined: 12/1/2006
Status: offline
|
I have often wondered that if God wants us to use what we have to worship Him, won't He be thrilled that we can play every kind of instrument for Him in heaven when all get there. Guess what? We won't make any mistakes on these instruments either. We will play perfectly for Him!!
Sure, He wants us to play drums, guitars, keyboards, and whatever we have to praise Him with. He won't only say to play the instruments, but He will provide them in Heaven so we can play them for Him. totally awesome!!
Why not practice down here now??
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 3/26/2008 2:37:13 AM
|
|
|
ManimalX
Posts: 587
Joined: 10/25/2005
Status: offline
|
A. Anything can be used for Satan's purposes. God is in control, and He created everything from the skins or fabrics used to make a drum to the rhythm that they create. Don't worry one bit about using rums to worship. One of the most moving times of musical worship I have ever had the pleasure of being involved with was listening to David Ruis play at an International House of Prayer conference (or possibly a OneThing.. I forget the hosting organization) in Kansas City. David was up there just wailing on all sorts of percussion instruments, and I will tell you... using the natural meditative properties of pure rhythm to worship God instead of getting high and raving... it is just powerful.
Check out David Ruis "The Mystery" album, I know you will enjoy it.
_____________________________
"But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed." - 2nd Peter 3:10
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 3/27/2008 6:28:23 PM
|
|
|
1mlasp
Posts: 320
Joined: 12/9/2005
Status: offline
|
Just start reading Psalms and you'll find that drums can be used to praise God.
Now my church orchestra is trying to convince me that music in 6/8 time is evil, but I'm not buying it.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 4/7/2008 4:42:12 PM
|
|
|
yustme
Posts: 314
Joined: 5/2/2007
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: donnastrong
ENJOY PLAYING THOSE DRUMS!!! The drum beat is NOT demonic. Now, it CAN be used demonically in some kind of satanic ritual or something like that. But ANY INSTRUMENT can be used demonically in music: guitar; keyboard; etc. In fact, ANYTHING can be made sinful, if the person using whatever item is using it for something other than the glory of God.
Another example: Some Christians will say that playing cards is wrong. My family plays card for fun. We do not gamble money which is to be used for living; giving to God's causes; groceries, etc. It's simply a game like Monopoly; Trouble; Scrabble; etc.
Once again, anything can be made sinful. There are certain things that are automatically sinful, and you'll find those listed in Scripture.
I also believe that, in the Old Testament, reference is made to "... praise him on the high sounding brass; praise him on the high sound cymbal ..."
So, I say, PLAY ON FOR JESUS!!!!
Donna Strong
HEARTS OF FAITH
www.heartsoffaith.biz
quote:
ORIGINAL: Buddrummer
I am told that the drums have a deamonic back ground and yet since I started playing the drums again I am now listening to more christian music and actually enjoy playing it. How Can this be A bad instrument
I agree 100%.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 4/10/2008 2:49:21 PM
|
|
|
yustme
Posts: 314
Joined: 5/2/2007
Status: offline
|
Any instrument can be misused.It depends upon the player and who controls his/her heart.If God's in control of the heart,Spirit,soul,mind,body,then Spiritual results will take place.If the player is playing for his own enjoyment because that's what he/she enjoys doing,then you'll have different results.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Can Drums Be a worship instrument - 4/12/2008 10:06:35 AM
|
|
|
tafkam
Posts: 2029
Joined: 9/23/2005
Status: offline
|
quote:
If God's in control of the heart,Spirit,soul,mind,body,then Spiritual results will take place.If the player is playing for his own enjoyment because that's what he/she enjoys doing,then you'll have different results.
Scripture, please. It sounds like you're saying that if we enjoy what we do as a part of worship, then there's something wrong with it.
By that logic, we should only hire pasotrs who don't enjoy preaching and music leaders who don't like leading music. And, oh yeah, make sure they pick only music that nobody in the congrgation is going to enjoy in any way.....lest it become a "fleshly" thing.
Yustme, I've rarely been able to follow your reasoning, but you hit on a whole new level with this one....
_____________________________
"Quiet, I'm a' thinkin'!.......And my head hurts!" - Yosemite Sam
Tafkam
|
|
|
|
 New Messages |
 No New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/ New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/o New Messages |
 Locked w/ New Messages |
 Locked w/o New Messages |
|
 Post New Thread
Reply to Message
Post New Poll
Submit Vote
Delete My Own Post
Delete My Own Thread
Rate Posts |
|
|
Forum Tools
Printable Version
