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Was 9/11 an inside job? - 4/8/2008 12:43:03 AM
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iSERVEaJEW
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Every time I go to youtube.com and look up 9/11 I find something interesting. I found the following clip from Dr. Morgan Ryan, Professor Emeritus of Texas A & M Universtity, and the former Chief Economist under the Bush administration 2001-2002.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQzp1aMhs-E&feature=related
Please, listen to what this insider has to say about the events surrounding 9/11.
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RE: Was 9/11 an inside job? - 4/8/2008 8:56:59 AM
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RE: Was 9/11 an inside job? - 4/8/2008 9:01:01 AM
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I'll post some things to help get some discussion going. First, here's a good introduction to the idea that 9/11 was an inside job by some nasty people with government connections:
http://www.journalof911studies.com/beginners.html
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The first clip contains a lot of scientific evidence that contradicts the cover-up contained in the NIST Report. The second clip shows how people responsible for investigating 9/11 are lying.
1. "Rebuilding America's Senses" Conference at the University of Texas, Austin. April 14, 15, 2007
Jones details the impossibility of heat from fire fed by available materials in the WTC towers being sufficient to weaken and "collapse" the steel-framed buildings. He posits Thermate as an accelerant, supplied by an unknown and extraneous source.
Lecture by Dr. Steven Jones exposing the NIST report and showing clear evidence that thermate was used to take down the buildings.
2. The following clip details how one of the lead engineers of the NIST report, John Gross denies the existence of molten steel under the three buildings. He has the nerve to say that there isn't any evidence of that, yet there are literally many scorching tonnes of evidence that was witnessed by countless people and commented on in the news. This is a clear example of dishonesty on the part of the people who have been trusted to bring the truth out. Does the government think we're that stupid?
NIST lead engineer caught lying.
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http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
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RE: Was 9/11 an inside job? - 4/8/2008 9:03:10 AM
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Oh not this again! If I had a nickel for every thread ever started on this topic I'd be one rich woman. I just can't understand why people so eager to believe this nonsense.
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RE: Was 9/11 an inside job? - 4/8/2008 9:05:47 AM
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I'll post some things to help get some discussion going. First, here's a good introduction to the idea that 9/11 was an inside job by some nasty people with government connections: My response remains the same:
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RE: Was 9/11 an inside job? - 4/8/2008 9:38:16 AM
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Every time I go to youtube.com and look up 9/11 I find something interesting. I found the following clip from Dr. Morgan Ryan, Professor Emeritus of Texas A & M Universtity, and the former Chief Economist under the Bush administration 2001-2002.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQzp1aMhs-E&feature=related
Please, listen to what this insider has to say about the events surrounding 9/11.
My response: LINK
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RE: Was 9/11 an inside job? - 4/8/2008 9:43:46 AM
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Are you guys afraid to have a serious conversation about this, or are you just going to make garbage posts and blow it off with an air of superiority? If you don't agree have the decency to say why or respectfully stay away please. Shalom.
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http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
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RE: Was 9/11 an inside job? - 4/8/2008 9:50:04 AM
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Are you guys afraid to have a serious conversation about this, or are you just going to make garbage posts and blow it off with an air of superiority? If you don't agree have the decency to say why or respectfully stay away please. Shalom.
How was all that explosive and rigging placed without anybody getting suspicious or somebody spilling the beans? It defies human nature.
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RE: Was 9/11 an inside job? - 4/8/2008 9:52:19 AM
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Are you guys afraid to have a serious conversation about this, or are you just going to make garbage posts and blow it off with an air of superiority? If you don't agree have the decency to say why or respectfully stay away please. Shalom.
I'm sorry, I don't know how long you've been around here, but in the past this topic has been done to death. Up on the top of the Conspiracy Central page you'll see a box where you can have topics from the past 365 days displayed rather than the default 30 days. Do so and you'll see that this has been more than well covered.
Happy reading! 
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RE: Was 9/11 an inside job? - 4/8/2008 9:59:59 AM
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I don't think you understand. . .many of us have already tried to have "serious" discussions about this topic and they never result in anything worthwhile.
I'm not afraid of the topic, I'm SICK of it.
Goodbye, I will not be reading anymore of this thread. It will just serve to annoy me.
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RE: Was 9/11 an inside job? - 4/8/2008 10:00:03 AM
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Are you guys afraid to have a serious conversation about this, or are you just going to make garbage posts and blow it off with an air of superiority? If you don't agree have the decency to say why or respectfully stay away please. Shalom.
How was all that explosive and rigging placed without anybody getting suspicious or somebody spilling the beans? It defies human nature.
Please, watch this for your answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=refFo_uITRE
This details how it was certainly possible. The truth is that many people were suspicious and it has been talked about. Also, remember that the mainstream media isn't very reliable in getting these facts out.
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http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
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RE: Was 9/11 an inside job? - 4/8/2008 10:22:45 AM
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I understand what you are saying, but that does not negate the fact that there is plenty of recent information already posted in this forum. You simply don't want to look for it.
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RE: Was 9/11 an inside job? - 4/8/2008 10:35:54 AM
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This is the only 9/11 thread in here in "Conspiracy Central". I don't want to look for it? I DID look for it before I started this thread. Are you omniscient?
http://forums.crosswalk.com/forumid_81/tt.htm
Try THIS one. And THIS one. And THIS one.
Then do a search here on the name Redstone. You'll see where he posted in every conspiracy thread imaginable on the Twin Towers and 9/11.
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RE: Was 9/11 an inside job? - 4/8/2008 11:58:02 AM
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Are you guys afraid to have a serious conversation about this, or are you just going to make garbage posts and blow it off with an air of superiority? If you don't agree have the decency to say why or respectfully stay away please. Shalom.
How was all that explosive and rigging placed without anybody getting suspicious or somebody spilling the beans? It defies human nature.
Please, watch this for your answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=refFo_uITRE
This details how it was certainly possible. The truth is that many people were suspicious and it has been talked about. Also, remember that the mainstream media isn't very reliable in getting these facts out.
I don't do youtube. Give me the condensed version in your words with links to reputable resources. That's what passes for a serious discussion here.
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RE: Was 9/11 an inside job? - 4/8/2008 12:07:53 PM
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Are you here to wreck this thread or actually have discussions?
There isn't much of a "discussion" to be had at this point. As has been mentioned, the subject has been done to death within the last year or so. The "Conspiracy Central" exists specifically because the "Current Events" folder was invaded about a year or so ago by a bunch of Conspiracy Theory proponants from a CT web forum, and the topic was "discussed" into the ground over a period of several months. A number of people attempted to have reasoned discussions with "Redstone" and others, but the discussion rapidly degenerated into the regular forum members having to deal with name calling, ad homonym attacks, and "yes, but" answers every time they posted responses that the invaders didn't like.
And yes, I do mean "invaded". A post was made in a prominant CT forum encouraging their regulars to basically spam Crosswalk's forums because people here are more polite in dealing with the subject than they tend to be on secular forums.
Check the back threads for "Redstone", "Backpacker", "RingsofSaturn", and a few others. They presented the so-called evidence for the "9/11 inside job" ad nausium, and were answered in detail. The reason there aren't any threads on the default list, I assume, is because everyone got sick of dealing with them and stopped answering, which in turn resulted in most of the CTer's leaving.
By all means continue to try jumpstarting the subject if you feel you must, just don't be shocked if you don't get too many takers.
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RE: Was 9/11 an inside job? - 4/8/2008 3:09:34 PM
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Are you guys afraid to have a serious conversation about this, or are you just going to make garbage posts and blow it off with an air of superiority? If you don't agree have the decency to say why or respectfully stay away please. Shalom.
How was all that explosive and rigging placed without anybody getting suspicious or somebody spilling the beans? It defies human nature.
Please, watch this for your answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=refFo_uITRE
This details how it was certainly possible. The truth is that many people were suspicious and it has been talked about. Also, remember that the mainstream media isn't very reliable in getting these facts out.
I don't do youtube. Give me the condensed version in your words with links to reputable resources. That's what passes for a serious discussion here.
That's too bad. It is only a 06:52 clip. I'm not going to spend 30+ minutes of my time giving all the details discussed. Instead, I will take 15 min and present some of them:
Marvin P. Bush, younger brother of the President, and Wirt D. Walker III, the President's cousin, were working for Securacom, the company that installed the new security system for the WTC from 1996 - 2000. It is possible that they installed the wiring for the explosives.
Scott Forbes, Senior Database Administrator, Fiduciary Trust reported an unprecedented power down in the south tower where his office was for almost the entire weekend before 9/11. The mainframes for his bank were on the 97th floor. The security cameras were off that weekend and many "workmen in coveralls with huge toolboxes and reels of cable walking around the building that weekend."
Security alerts were lifted five days before the attacks and bomb sniffing dogs were removed.
Please, watch the clip for a more complete story.
The following link has a webpage with a lot more detail:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911security.html
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) for cow... but IMO the problem with Youtube is not the amount of time, but the fact that any nut with a video camera can post there.