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RE: THE question! - 4/15/2008 8:30:28 PM
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1love1God1way
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I've stayed out of the conspiracy theory around 9-11 for oh, the last 6+ years now, but why not throw in a little of my own thoughts, just for fun. It's more entertaining than actually doing my homework.
There are all these people out there who claim it was an inside job and a government ploy. That our own government, in a single moment, killed over 3,000 of its own citizens and thousands of others in the following events.
We have all these people say that the government has no problem killing thousands of innocent people. This raises a new question: if these documentaries, papers, theories, etc, are true, and the government has no ethical qualms about killing thousands of its own people, then why wouldn't the government kill all of these people making these claims?
If the government did in fact orchestrate 9/11, along with its drawn out theories of terrorists attack, then I would assume they had some pretty good reason to make killing its own people worth while. If so, then you can bet your bottom dollar that the government wouldn't allow a bunch of punks with a webcam and a youtube account to jeopardize the entire operation by leaking out the truth.
The destruction of the WTC is considered "a carefully planned and controlled demolition ... and it was pulled off with military precision." Now, are we suppose to believe that a government that was capable of committing to, erecting, operating, and manipulating the largest terrorist operation in history is suddenly too incompetent to sniff out and shut down these little websites and youtube videos? The government can monitor every electronic communication that takes place in the world, and they can't stop a bunch of college professors and students from exposing their greatest military conspiracy of all time?
. . . not buying it.
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RE: THE question! - 4/16/2008 8:55:51 AM
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And joining in with the truthers is....
Iranian casts doubts on Sept. 11 attack, ground zero deaths
You're in great company Mahmoud. 
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RE: THE question! - 4/16/2008 9:16:19 AM
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LoyalGypsy
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ORIGINAL: 1love1God1way
I've stayed out of the conspiracy theory around 9-11 for oh, the last 6+ years now, but why not throw in a little of my own thoughts, just for fun. It's more entertaining than actually doing my homework.
There are all these people out there who claim it was an inside job and a government ploy. That our own government, in a single moment, killed over 3,000 of its own citizens and thousands of others in the following events.
We have all these people say that the government has no problem killing thousands of innocent people. This raises a new question: if these documentaries, papers, theories, etc, are true, and the government has no ethical qualms about killing thousands of its own people, then why wouldn't the government kill all of these people making these claims?
If the government did in fact orchestrate 9/11, along with its drawn out theories of terrorists attack, then I would assume they had some pretty good reason to make killing its own people worth while. If so, then you can bet your bottom dollar that the government wouldn't allow a bunch of punks with a webcam and a youtube account to jeopardize the entire operation by leaking out the truth.
The destruction of the WTC is considered "a carefully planned and controlled demolition ... and it was pulled off with military precision." Now, are we suppose to believe that a government that was capable of committing to, erecting, operating, and manipulating the largest terrorist operation in history is suddenly too incompetent to sniff out and shut down these little websites and youtube videos? The government can monitor every electronic communication that takes place in the world, and they can't stop a bunch of college professors and students from exposing their greatest military conspiracy of all time?
. . . not buying it.
Greetings,
Try this one...
The Trilateral Commission is a private organization, established to foster closer cooperation between America, Europe and Japan. It was founded in July 1973, at the initiative of David Rockefeller; (Trade Centers) who was Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations at that time....
The organization has come under much scrutiny and criticism by political activists and academics working in the social and political sciences. The Commission has found its way into a number of conspiracy theories, especially when it became known that President Jimmy Carter appointed former Commission members to senior positions in his Administration. Later it was revealed that Carter himself was a former Trilateral members to Cabinet positions and held a reception for the Commission in the White House in “”1984. =George Orwell)
This Commission was to come under media scrutiny when it was later disclosed that Carter appointed former Commission members (who must resign before taking up government positions) to senior positions in his Administration.
Moreover, it also came out that Carter himself was a former Trilateral member. (The Clinton Administration, by contrast, had close to a dozen Commission members, including Clinton himself; both Gerald Ford and George Bush Sr. were also Trilateralists.)
The John Birch Society, believes that the Trilateral Commission is dedicated to a one-world government. In 1980, Holly Sklar released a book titled Trilateralism: the Trilateral Commission and Elite Planning for World Management.
Any of those names ring a bell??
The attacks on the world trade center are a reminder to get things moving….
The second is a move in the US government to number the fighting men of Israel, which means in Church standards…. they are trying to force church ministries, who are prospering in the work of the Lord to disclose members and contributors,
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Now, are we suppose to believe that a government that was capable of committing to, erecting, operating, and manipulating the largest terrorist operation in history is suddenly too incompetent to sniff out and shut down these little websites and youtube videos?
The government can monitor every electronic communication that takes place in the world, and they can't stop a bunch of college professors and students from exposing their greatest military conspiracy of all time?
Why should they?
This Commission already came under media scrutiny when it was disclosed that Carter appointed former “Commission members” (who must resign before taking up government positions) “to senior positions” in his Administration and we keep voting these same clowns into office.
SO it already went through media scrutiny…what happened???
The Trilateral Commission is a private organization, established to foster closer cooperation between America, Europe and Japan.
Just about every player who is mentioned in the above seems to be in the pocket of the Trilateral Commission making appointments in government, such as Jimmy Carter, who even wrote a book that supports Islam,
HELLO.....this is old news.....Where ya been???
LG
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Ex 19:5 Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice
...So the Persians ask that the 300 drop their arms. Leonidas responds; "Persians! Come and get them!"
300 The Movie
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RE: THE question! - 4/16/2008 11:23:57 AM
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1love1God1way
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First off, all that happened before I was even born, so no, it doesn't ring a bell.
Secondly, *pbbbbbbt* raspberries.
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RE: THE question! - 4/16/2008 12:42:20 PM
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cow451
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quote:
ORIGINAL: LoyalGypsy
quote:
ORIGINAL: 1love1God1way
I've stayed out of the conspiracy theory around 9-11 for oh, the last 6+ years now, but why not throw in a little of my own thoughts, just for fun. It's more entertaining than actually doing my homework.
There are all these people out there who claim it was an inside job and a government ploy. That our own government, in a single moment, killed over 3,000 of its own citizens and thousands of others in the following events.
We have all these people say that the government has no problem killing thousands of innocent people. This raises a new question: if these documentaries, papers, theories, etc, are true, and the government has no ethical qualms about killing thousands of its own people, then why wouldn't the government kill all of these people making these claims?
If the government did in fact orchestrate 9/11, along with its drawn out theories of terrorists attack, then I would assume they had some pretty good reason to make killing its own people worth while. If so, then you can bet your bottom dollar that the government wouldn't allow a bunch of punks with a webcam and a youtube account to jeopardize the entire operation by leaking out the truth.
The destruction of the WTC is considered "a carefully planned and controlled demolition ... and it was pulled off with military precision." Now, are we suppose to believe that a government that was capable of committing to, erecting, operating, and manipulating the largest terrorist operation in history is suddenly too incompetent to sniff out and shut down these little websites and youtube videos? The government can monitor every electronic communication that takes place in the world, and they can't stop a bunch of college professors and students from exposing their greatest military conspiracy of all time?
. . . not buying it.
Greetings,
Try this one...
The Trilateral Commission is a private organization, established to foster closer cooperation between America, Europe and Japan. It was founded in July 1973, at the initiative of David Rockefeller; (Trade Centers) who was Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations at that time....
The organization has come under much scrutiny and criticism by political activists and academics working in the social and political sciences. The Commission has found its way into a number of conspiracy theories, especially when it became known that President Jimmy Carter appointed former Commission members to senior positions in his Administration. Later it was revealed that Carter himself was a former Trilateral members to Cabinet positions and held a reception for the Commission in the White House in “”1984. =George Orwell)
This Commission was to come under media scrutiny when it was later disclosed that Carter appointed former Commission members (who must resign before taking up government positions) to senior positions in his Administration.
Moreover, it also came out that Carter himself was a former Trilateral member. (The Clinton Administration, by contrast, had close to a dozen Commission members, including Clinton himself; both Gerald Ford and George Bush Sr. were also Trilateralists.)
The John Birch Society, believes that the Trilateral Commission is dedicated to a one-world government. In 1980, Holly Sklar released a book titled Trilateralism: the Trilateral Commission and Elite Planning for World Management.
Any of those names ring a bell??
The attacks on the world trade center are a reminder to get things moving….
The second is a move in the US government to number the fighting men of Israel, which means in Church standards…. they are trying to force church ministries, who are prospering in the work of the Lord to disclose members and contributors,
quote:
Now, are we suppose to believe that a government that was capable of committing to, erecting, operating, and manipulating the largest terrorist operation in history is suddenly too incompetent to sniff out and shut down these little websites and youtube videos?
The government can monitor every electronic communication that takes place in the world, and they can't stop a bunch of college professors and students from exposing their greatest military conspiracy of all time?
Why should they?
This Commission already came under media scrutiny when it was disclosed that Carter appointed former “Commission members” (who must resign before taking up government positions) “to senior positions” in his Administration and we keep voting these same clowns into office.
SO it already went through media scrutiny…what happened???
The Trilateral Commission is a private organization, established to foster closer cooperation between America, Europe and Japan.
Just about every player who is mentioned in the above seems to be in the pocket of the Trilateral Commission making appointments in government, such as Jimmy Carter, who even wrote a book that supports Islam,
HELLO.....this is old news.....Where ya been???
LG
All very lovely except it doesn't explain why the "Truthers" still exist, nor any evidence that this is tied to 9/11 other than by coincidence.
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Wer weiß, was Übel im Herzen der Männer lauert? Nur der Schatten weiß. Giants 17 Patriots 14.
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RE: THE question! - 4/16/2008 3:31:00 PM
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LoyalGypsy
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quote:
ORIGINAL: cow451
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ORIGINAL: LoyalGypsy
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ORIGINAL: 1love1God1way
I've stayed out of the conspiracy theory around 9-11 for oh, the last 6+ years now, but why not throw in a little of my own thoughts, just for fun. It's more entertaining than actually doing my homework.
There are all these people out there who claim it was an inside job and a government ploy. That our own government, in a single moment, killed over 3,000 of its own citizens and thousands of others in the following events.
We have all these people say that the government has no problem killing thousands of innocent people. This raises a new question: if these documentaries, papers, theories, etc, are true, and the government has no ethical qualms about killing thousands of its own people, then why wouldn't the government kill all of these people making these claims?
If the government did in fact orchestrate 9/11, along with its drawn out theories of terrorists attack, then I would assume they had some pretty good reason to make killing its own people worth while. If so, then you can bet your bottom dollar that the government wouldn't allow a bunch of punks with a webcam and a youtube account to jeopardize the entire operation by leaking out the truth.
The destruction of the WTC is considered "a carefully planned and controlled demolition ... and it was pulled off with military precision." Now, are we suppose to believe that a government that was capable of committing to, erecting, operating, and manipulating the largest terrorist operation in history is suddenly too incompetent to sniff out and shut down these little websites and youtube videos? The government can monitor every electronic communication that takes place in the world, and they can't stop a bunch of college professors and students from exposing their greatest military conspiracy of all time?
. . . not buying it.
Greetings,
Try this one...
The Trilateral Commission is a private organization, established to foster closer cooperation between America, Europe and Japan. It was founded in July 1973, at the initiative of David Rockefeller; (Trade Centers) who was Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations at that time....
The organization has come under much scrutiny and criticism by political activists and academics working in the social and political sciences. The Commission has found its way into a number of conspiracy theories, especially when it became known that President Jimmy Carter appointed former Commission members to senior positions in his Administration. Later it was revealed that Carter himself was a former Trilateral members to Cabinet positions and held a reception for the Commission in the White House in “”1984. =George Orwell)
This Commission was to come under media scrutiny when it was later disclosed that Carter appointed former Commission members (who must resign before taking up government positions) to senior positions in his Administration.
Moreover, it also came out that Carter himself was a former Trilateral member. (The Clinton Administration, by contrast, had close to a dozen Commission members, including Clinton himself; both Gerald Ford and George Bush Sr. were also Trilateralists.)
The John Birch Society, believes that the Trilateral Commission is dedicated to a one-world government. In 1980, Holly Sklar released a book titled Trilateralism: the Trilateral Commission and Elite Planning for World Management.
Any of those names ring a bell??
The attacks on the world trade center are a reminder to get things moving….
The second is a move in the US government to number the fighting men of Israel, which means in Church standards…. they are trying to force church ministries, who are prospering in the work of the Lord to disclose members and contributors,
quote:
Now, are we suppose to believe that a government that was capable of committing to, erecting, operating, and manipulating the largest terrorist operation in history is suddenly too incompetent to sniff out and shut down these little websites and youtube videos?
The government can monitor every electronic communication that takes place in the world, and they can't stop a bunch of college professors and students from exposing their greatest military conspiracy of all time?
Why should they?
This Commission already came under media scrutiny when it was disclosed that Carter appointed former “Commission members” (who must resign before taking up government positions) “to senior positions” in his Administration and we keep voting these same clowns into office.
SO it already went through media scrutiny…what happened???
The Trilateral Commission is a private organization, established to foster closer cooperation between America, Europe and Japan.
Just about every player who is mentioned in the above seems to be in the pocket of the Trilateral Commission making appointments in government, such as Jimmy Carter, who even wrote a book that supports Islam,
HELLO.....this is old news.....Where ya been???
LG
All very lovely except it doesn't explain why the "Truthers" still exist, nor any evidence that this is tied to 9/11 other than by coincidence.
Greetings,
Well I like the song in the video, (StrangleHold!)...we used to do a lot of Ted, back in the day!
I wonder if he is saved yet?? 
http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=8374
One has to look back to plan for the future, the seeds that were planted back then because of ignorance, tells a bigger story than coincidence, but when has any govenment ever told the people the truth???
LG
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Ex 19:5 Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice
...So the Persians ask that the 300 drop their arms. Leonidas responds; "Persians! Come and get them!"
300 The Movie
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RE: THE question! - 4/20/2008 8:36:04 AM
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LoyalGypsy
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ORIGINAL: 1love1God1way
First off, all that happened before I was even born, so no, it doesn't ring a bell.
Secondly, *pbbbbbbt* raspberries.
Greetings,
Here is something more recent, it just came in my email today,
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Security/Default.aspx?id=76686
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Headlines/Default.aspx?id=76876
LG
< Message edited by LoyalGypsy -- 4/20/2008 8:45:44 AM >
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Ex 19:5 Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice
...So the Persians ask that the 300 drop their arms. Leonidas responds; "Persians! Come and get them!"
300 The Movie
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RE: THE question! - 4/20/2008 11:00:10 PM
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cow451
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quote:
ORIGINAL: LoyalGypsy
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ORIGINAL: 1love1God1way
First off, all that happened before I was even born, so no, it doesn't ring a bell.
Secondly, *pbbbbbbt* raspberries.
Greetings,
Here is something more recent, it just came in my email today,
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Security/Default.aspx?id=76686
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Headlines/Default.aspx?id=76876
LG
Which is related to the topic how?
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RE: THE question! - 4/20/2008 11:54:04 PM
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LoyalGypsy
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ORIGINAL: cow451
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ORIGINAL: LoyalGypsy
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ORIGINAL: 1love1God1way
First off, all that happened before I was even born, so no, it doesn't ring a bell.
Secondly, *pbbbbbbt* raspberries.
Greetings,
Here is something more recent, it just came in my email today,
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Security/Default.aspx?id=76686
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Headlines/Default.aspx?id=76876
LG
Which is related to the topic how?
Greetings
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All very lovely except it doesn't explain why the "Truthers" still exist, nor any evidence that this is tied to 9/11 other than by coincidence.
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Which is related to the topic how?
I am not sure, it seems the OP poster is no longer with us, but since that day I took a look around and I am just showing a coincidence that was just given to me.
But what I found be a little interesting is someone in government is taking a little notice of the dealings of JC and this is first time I heard of it
….I mean Jimmy Carter is also a peanut farmer…not to confuse JC, Jimmy Carter with Jesus Christ, it seems poppies (hamas) and peanut butter both kill people
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=49316
But Jesus did say
20 If the Lord had not cut short those days, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom he has chosen, he has shortened them. 21 At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'Look, there he is!' do not believe it. 22 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles to deceive the elect--if that were possible. 23 So be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time.
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Which is related to the topic how?
I went to the seed; a seed produces after its own kind
The scriptures show a thing called seed, time, and harvest; let’s just say I am showing some possible seed, …….which would have been “ahead of time” ….the OP was dealing with the harvest.
25 It is enough for a disciple that he be like his teacher, and a servant like his master. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more will they call those of his household!
26 Therefore do not fear them. For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.
God basically exposes everything, sooner or later
LG
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Ex 19:5 Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice
...So the Persians ask that the 300 drop their arms. Leonidas responds; "Persians! Come and get them!"
300 The Movie
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