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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 5/16/2008 10:58:35 AM
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RHardin15
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 Dude,you are either fogiven,or you're not.Do you believe in Jesus?Do you believe in the Word of God?You do NOT have to BEG forgivness!It's there,you just have to receive it!Speaking of your job,I doubt that you will be fired or whatever;otherwise your boss would have said something by now?Worse-case scenario:wear a long-sleeved shirt.  Now,for all of you that think getting tattoos are 'cool' or 'neat',are 'off'.I think that if you REALLY did your homework,you'd find that 'marking' your bodies was,and is,wrong biblically.And YES,I do have a couple tattoos.I have had them for 21 years,got them while doing cocaine.I(and everyone that I know with tattoos/piercings,etc.)was living a life of drugs/alcohol,satanic/cultish things,etc.;very sinful.What kind of message do you think you are sending as a christian,getting a tattoo?Or,piercing your body.Like your eye brow,or your lip?Your tongue?Other parts?Christianity has conformed to this world,and made excuses as to why it is ok;"it is for witnessing",or some funky jazz like that.This is nonsense,how does a straight-laced,upper-middle-class person who has never experienced a certain lifestyle,witness to a biker, street people, junkies,etc.?Thinking that tattoos,piercings,or what ever make you something you are not will most likely only cause you and those you attempt to help,more harm than good.And pastors like Todd Bentley,who go out and get covered in tattoos and pinch all that hardeware into their face so they can be 'cool'(?),have seriously missed it!All I/we can do is pray for these mis-guided souls.Hey,I am not trying to beat anyone up.We must live with certain consequences of our actions,and we need to be real!Why do we want to look like the world?Why do we want to continue in the things that we did while sinners in the world?Serious questions to consider,please do.Final note:I believe very much in God's grace and mercy,and extend it freely myself.Be easy on yourself bp4Christ,learn to forgive yourself and let God work.You need to believe in your salvation!God bless you with revelation of who you are in Him,and who He is in you!God bless you all!
I disagree that it is Biblically wrong.
I agree that it is pointless to try to be something you're not.
If you want to talk about conforming to the world, there are tons of things that you do that conform to the world, like driving a car, or watching tv, or whatever.
I know so many people that have gotten tattoos that did not get them while in a bad lifestyle (Including everyone in my family other than me). Most got them while serving the Lord. Why? They wanted them, it's a form of self-expression.
Tattoos are not associated with just bikers, junkies, and street people for the record (even though everyone I associate with are bikers...they don't live a lifestyle that is not pleasing to God).
I do not have a problem with what anyone "Looks like." I do not see a problem with going to Church in ripped up jeans that haven't been washed, and an old Bob Marley shirt. I don't think God cares either, as long as you're coming to worship Him. We are part of the world, so of course we're going to look like the world in many ways. We should not CONFORM OUR ACTIONS TO THIS WORLD. That's the important part. We are to stay away from the sinful stuff the world does, tattoos are not included in that. If they were, then eating pork and shellfish would also be included in the sinful category too.
BTW, I don't have any tattoos, but I don't believe that you can say that it is sinful to have them.
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 5/29/2008 12:08:14 AM
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armysoldierofgod
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Hey, It's ok to have tattoos. about 33% of my body is tattooed. I am in the army and when My term is served I am going to goto Seminary school . God loves us one way or another. God says "come as you are". I would say dont worry about it. Just repent and move on. Just think of your tattoo as a reminder. Hope I helped. God Bless.
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 5/29/2008 11:01:06 AM
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HellHathNoFuryAtAll
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The subject matter of the tattoo is not harmful in the least. On the other hand, if your conscience is tugging at you and making you resent getting the tattoo, then you have gone against your own convictions. I personally think that if you want a tattoo, and it means something to you, then there is no wrong there. Just as long as the tattoo is not something blasphemous or vulgar, then I think it's fine. What you have to worry about is whether or not YOU condone tattoos. If you're going against the grain on this then you're only tormenting yourself. If you feel that tattoos are wrong and you know that you shouldn't have gotten one, then you already know where you stand.
My advice to you is to just let it go and if you feel bad about it, ask forgiveness and move on. You're putting too much thought into it. The bible doesn't say that God won't love you if you get tattoos. SO, No worries.
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/16/2008 8:32:27 PM
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MamaPyratekk
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You have definitely not screwed yourself over career wise hun! My husband has two rather large tattoos (not as visible as yours on your forearms, but still visible) and he has a great career making great money! In fact, he has actually told me stories where his tattoos have sparked up conversations with the clients he works with and they ended up working with him (rather than another representative from his company) because they had so much in common. Tattoos by no means take away from your ability to have an amazing career.
I also in no way think that you have screwed yourself over spiritually or that you are "doomed". There is only one Bible verse I'm aware of that speaks of not putting marks on the body, but it is referring to "tattoos" of certain symbols that were worn by Pagans. You have a cross tattoo, it's not as if you tattooed Satan across your forehead :). And for what it's worth, I have two tattoos...a small black star and also a Jolly Roger ("pirate skull") and thankfully I've never been made to feel as if it were some sort of abomination.
Feel better, it's not as big of a deal as you think :D *hug*
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/23/2008 1:55:05 PM
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lionofzion56
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i like my tattoos. i have two. i got them after i was saved.... and at first i felt a little bad because my dad was like "NO!" but..... i like them now. i also know how it is to feel unforgiven, or... it is hard to forgive your self for what you have done.... but, we are supposed to look to jesus to forgive us of our sins, and that is enough... His blood is enough. if you are still seriously feeling guilty about it, i suggest you pray.
p.s. the first tattoo i got was in miami on vacation with my best friend, and her family. all three of us got tattoos, mine is on my upper left arm it says, "innocence".
my second tattoo is a(outline) crown on my wrist. its actually unfinished because i thought i was going to pass out, it really hurt.
i dont know about getting any more....
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/23/2008 2:15:14 PM
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laura...
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Everyone has already given excellent advice about sin, forgiveness, rebellion, professions etc. etc.
I'm just posting to tell you that if you really want it removed it can be removed. Tattoos can be removed by lasers. Just google "tattoo laser removal" to find a place that does it. It's expensive but the size of your tattoo as you've described wouldn't be too bad. It would just be a costly "stupidity tax".
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/23/2008 2:59:37 PM
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faroukfarouk
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ORIGINAL: laura...
Everyone has already given excellent advice about sin, forgiveness, rebellion, professions etc. etc.
I'm just posting to tell you that if you really want it removed it can be removed. Tattoos can be removed by lasers. Just google "tattoo laser removal" to find a place that does it. It's expensive but the size of your tattoo as you've described wouldn't be too bad. It would just be a costly "stupidity tax".
Laura: Do you have one, or have experience of the laser removal? is it very painful?
F
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(Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately)
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/23/2008 3:12:46 PM
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laura...
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ORIGINAL: laura...
Everyone has already given excellent advice about sin, forgiveness, rebellion, professions etc. etc.
I'm just posting to tell you that if you really want it removed it can be removed. Tattoos can be removed by lasers. Just google "tattoo laser removal" to find a place that does it. It's expensive but the size of your tattoo as you've described wouldn't be too bad. It would just be a costly "stupidity tax".
Laura: Do you have one, or have experience of the laser removal? is it very painful?
F
No, I've never had a tattoo and I've never had one removed. My understanding from reading and seeing a program about tattoo removal is that the laser procedure is painless. The laser breaks down the ink of the tattoo and then it is absorbed by the body and eliminated. Here's a website with info and directory.
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This is what the Lord says: “Stop at the crossroads and look around. Ask for the old, godly way, and walk in it. Travel its path, and you will find rest for your souls. But you reply, ‘No, that’s not the road we want!’ Jer 6:16
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/23/2008 3:13:59 PM
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faroukfarouk
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Laura: Okay thanks for the link to the resource.
I guess you would still advise against one in the first place? (Often ppl without them or who would never consider it, take that view, anyway.)
Take care.
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< Message edited by faroukfarouk -- 6/23/2008 3:26:56 PM >
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Don't trust the appearance of things.
(Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately)
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/23/2008 3:58:15 PM
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laura...
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Laura: Okay thanks for the link to the resource.
I guess you would still advise against one in the first place? (Often ppl without them or who would never consider it, take that view, anyway.)
Take care.
F
I probably would advise against one. Not because I think they are sin but more because I just can't recommend anyone do something so optional to their body that they can't undo easily. Tattoos are expensive. Removing them is even more expensive. They are also not without some serious health risks. I have no desire to have one but I strongly suspect that if I was 18 now I would be very tempted. &:)
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This is what the Lord says: “Stop at the crossroads and look around. Ask for the old, godly way, and walk in it. Travel its path, and you will find rest for your souls. But you reply, ‘No, that’s not the road we want!’ Jer 6:16
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/23/2008 4:07:32 PM
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I probably would advise against one. Not because I think they are sin but more because I just can't recommend anyone do something so optional to their body that they can't undo easily. Tattoos are expensive. Removing them is even more expensive. They are also not without some serious health risks. I have no desire to have one but I strongly suspect that if I was 18 now I would be very tempted. &:)
Laura:
Okay, thnx, I see.
Of course, for some ppl if the tattoo design is faith-related that can be a principal part of the motivation; maybe it would for you as well, I don't know.
Re. your mention of 18, well, interesting you should refer to it but as you know at 18 so many ppl choose to commemorate the event by going to the parlor; but I guess some people would argue that, seeing as there are going to be lots of tattoos around as from 18, then just as well if some are faith related ones in a tasteful design for witness purposes.
I guess if there was a clearly clean parlor and there was a tastefull little design and it was faith related, you can understand why someone might consider one, right?
Take care.
(And also, maybe the parlors near where you have lived haven't had a clearly clean and hygienic reputation, which might explain your reluctance over the years, anyway. F.)
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Trust the Lord.
Don't trust the appearance of things.
(Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately)
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/23/2008 4:28:26 PM
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laura...
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I probably would advise against one. Not because I think they are sin but more because I just can't recommend anyone do something so optional to their body that they can't undo easily. Tattoos are expensive. Removing them is even more expensive. They are also not without some serious health risks. I have no desire to have one but I strongly suspect that if I was 18 now I would be very tempted. &:)
Laura:
Okay, thnx, I see.
Of course, for some ppl if the tattoo design is faith-related that can be a principal part of the motivation; maybe it would for you as well, I don't know.
Re. your mention of 18, well, interesting you should refer to it but as you know at 18 so many ppl choose to commemorate the event by going to the parlor; but I guess some people would argue that, seeing as there are going to be lots of tattoos around as from 18, then just as well if some are faith related ones in a tasteful design for witness purposes.
I guess if there was a clearly clean parlor and there was a tastefull little design and it was faith related, you can understand why someone might consider one, right?
Take care.
(And also, maybe the parlors near where you have lived haven't had a clearly clean and hygienic reputation, which might explain your reluctance over the years, anyway. F.)
I live in a college town. There are LOTS of tattoo parlors here. Faith-related design or not, I have no desire for a tattoo and I never have had a desire for one. My mentioning that if I was 18 now I might be tempted is that at 18 I had a much greater desire to "fit in" and to do the popular thing. I still doubt that I would have gotten past the cost of one. I also would never have been able to decide on a design for such a permanent thing. I am fortunate that when I was 18 tattoos were not the popular thing so I don't now have to either live with one or pay to have one removed.
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This is what the Lord says: “Stop at the crossroads and look around. Ask for the old, godly way, and walk in it. Travel its path, and you will find rest for your souls. But you reply, ‘No, that’s not the road we want!’ Jer 6:16
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/23/2008 4:36:36 PM
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faroukfarouk
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Laura:
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I live in a college town. There are LOTS of tattoo parlors here.
Oh I see, plenty of choice, then.
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Faith-related design or not, I have no desire for a tattoo and I never have had a desire for one. My mentioning that if I was 18 now I might be tempted is that at 18 I had a much greater desire to "fit in" and to do the popular thing.
I understand.
Though the fact that someone gets a faith related tattoo (some people can't even countenance the idea of a faith related, witness one) could be described as going against the stream, being different, right?
(rather than doing it to be the same as others, that is).
I wonder if at 18 a person getting a specifically faith related one can gain respect for being different...That's a thought, anyway.
Take care.
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Trust the Bible.
Trust the Lord.
Don't trust the appearance of things.
(Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately)
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/23/2008 4:44:55 PM
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laura...
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I understand.
Though the fact that someone gets a faith related tattoo (some people can't even countenance the idea of a faith related, witness one) could be described as going against the stream, being different, right?
(rather than doing it to be the same as others, that is).
I wonder if at 18 a person getting a specifically faith related one can gain respect for being different...That's a thought, anyway.
Take care.
Again, I live in a college town. Not getting a tattoo is going against the stream around here. I have 2 grown sons and lots of nieces and nephews of all ages, for them, not getting a tattoo is going against the stream. In this area, unmarked skin is being different.
Quite frankly, again around here, faith-related designs would mean nothing. I see Christian symbols tattooed on just about everybody -- believer or not. Noone would see a faith-based tattoo and think, "oh that person must be a Christian."
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This is what the Lord says: “Stop at the crossroads and look around. Ask for the old, godly way, and walk in it. Travel its path, and you will find rest for your souls. But you reply, ‘No, that’s not the road we want!’ Jer 6:16
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/23/2008 4:51:20 PM
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faroukfarouk
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Laura:
Well, thanks, I see.
So I guess for you if a young (or older person) got a faith related tattoo for witness reasons, it wouldn't cause you to respect their motivation? (whether or not you actually liked the design, of course).
Some young people have had very conservative upbringings, which is just fine. God bless your family.
F
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Trust the Bible.
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Don't trust the appearance of things.
(Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately)
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/23/2008 4:55:10 PM
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faroukfarouk
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Laura: PS: eg, unlike me, your sons probably never wore earrings either. F
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Trust the Bible.
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(Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately)
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/23/2008 5:04:50 PM
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laura...
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ORIGINAL: faroukfarouk
Laura:
Well, thanks, I see.
So I guess for you if a young (or older person) got a faith related tattoo for witness reasons, it wouldn't cause you to respect their motivation? (whether or not you actually liked the design, of course).
Some young people have had very conservative upbringings, which is just fine. God bless your family.
F
Getting a tattoo is a personal choice. I neither respect nor disrespect someone else's motivation for getting one. "Conservative" would not describe my upbringing. It might describe the way I brought up my sons and one of them has a tattoo. A large number of my nieces and nephews do have tattoos -- some "faith-based", some Christian symbols even though they are without faith, and some not. There are many young and not so young people in my church that have tattoos
Again, in this area of the country anyway, for a believer to NOT get a tattoo would be a stronger witness than getting one AS a witness. If a Christian wants to get a tattoo because they like them, want one, whatever...fine. But, to say they got it as a "witness" of their Christian faith isn't going to mean anything around here.
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This is what the Lord says: “Stop at the crossroads and look around. Ask for the old, godly way, and walk in it. Travel its path, and you will find rest for your souls. But you reply, ‘No, that’s not the road we want!’ Jer 6:16
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/23/2008 5:11:16 PM
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Laura:
Very interesting; thanks, Laura.
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Getting a tattoo is a personal choice. I neither respect nor disrespect someone else's motivation for getting one. "Conservative" would not describe my upbringing. It might describe the way I brought up my sons and one of them has a tattoo.
Oh so he does have one, then. Okay. I guess I would be wondering if your son's tattoo is a faith related one, and if it isn't, whether you regretted it at all?
[You see, I used to wear earrings sometimes, but I guess that's a different matter.]
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A large number of my nieces and nephews do have tattoos -- some "faith-based", some Christian symbols even though they are without faith, and some not. There are many young and not so young people in my church that have tattoos
Again, in this area of the country anyway, for a believer to NOT get a tattoo would be a stronger witness than getting one AS a witness. If a Christian wants to get a tattoo because they like them, want one, whatever...fine. But, to say they got it as a "witness" of their Christian faith isn't going to mean anything around here.
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Trust the Bible.
Trust the Lord.
Don't trust the appearance of things.
(Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately)
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/24/2008 9:31:20 AM
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laura...
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Oh so he does have one, then. Okay. I guess I would be wondering if your son's tattoo is a faith related one, and if it isn't, whether you regretted it at all?
No, his tattoo is not faith related. It is just a sort of rope design on his upper arm. Do I regret it? No, I had nothing to do with his choice other than he obeyed my decree that neither son was allowed to get piercings or tattoos until they were adults. Does he regret it? I think so. He has made passing mention that he would never get another tattoo.
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/24/2008 12:22:16 PM
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faroukfarouk
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Oh so he does have one, then. Okay. I guess I would be wondering if your son's tattoo is a faith related one, and if it isn't, whether you regretted it at all?
No, his tattoo is not faith related. It is just a sort of rope design on his upper arm. Do I regret it? No, I had nothing to do with his choice other than he obeyed my decree that neither son was allowed to get piercings or tattoos until they were adults. Does he regret it? I think so. He has made passing mention that he would never get another tattoo.
Laura:
Okay, thnx so I guess you seem reasonably relaxed about it; the main thing was that he did what you said before he was 18, I guess.
(Interesting that you seem to have been uncomfortable with earrings for him?)
We trust that by God's grace your sons will be guided by the Bible in their choices for life, as you have doubtless encouraged them to, many times.
Take care.
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Trust the Bible.
Trust the Lord.
Don't trust the appearance of things.
(Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately)
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/24/2008 1:04:25 PM
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lionofzion56
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there is a girl at my school half covered in tattoos and she is currnetly in the process of getting one on her arm removed. first of all it is a process and secondly she says it hurts worse than getting a tattoo....
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/24/2008 3:21:51 PM
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laura...
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Okay, thnx so I guess you seem reasonably relaxed about it; the main thing was that he did what you said before he was 18, I guess.
(Interesting that you seem to have been uncomfortable with earrings for him?)
My goodness you jump to conclusions. LOL!!
I was uncomfortable about them doing anything permanent to their bodies prior to being adults. There are consequences to our choices. Tattoos, body piercings and even pierced ears on men can and do effect future life-options such as career, spouse, etc. It is also a fact that people --teachers, prospective employers, coaches, police, pastors, peers -- form instant opinions about others based on appearances, especially when it comes to teenagers who are tattooed and pierced.
I felt as a parent that it was my responsibility to minimize as much as possible judgments made about my sons that could drastically impact their futures. I wanted their personalities, talents and behavior to speak for them. So, no, they were not allowed to get piercings or tattoos. Other foolishness (like dying their hair green) are temporary and reversable. Permanent alterations to their body had to wait until they were adults and in complete charge of their own choices and consequences.
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This is what the Lord says: “Stop at the crossroads and look around. Ask for the old, godly way, and walk in it. Travel its path, and you will find rest for your souls. But you reply, ‘No, that’s not the road we want!’ Jer 6:16
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RE: I'm an idiot and got a tattoo - 6/24/2008 10:50:54 PM
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faroukfarouk
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Laura,
Yes, sorry, okay, maybe it was a long shot, but then maybe it wasn't altogether inaccurate.
Yes, I see what you mean about not limiting their opportunities, and to some extent I would agree, I guess.
Maybe earrings are not such a big deal, but, hey, I guess I'm biased...
Laura: do you think your sons were more subject to 'peer pressure' than you would have been at their age?
Take care.
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Trust the Bible.
Trust the Lord.
Don't trust the appearance of things.
(Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately)
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