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I believe we should leave Iraq, should have never been there in first place,

Oh, and I suppose you would have allowed Saddam to continue breaking the Cease Fire Agreement and UN resolutions for another 12 (or 20, or 40) years. How long is long enough?

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but the REALITY is US is not gonna leave that oil!

Proof, please. So far the left are the only ones screaming about "It's the oil!"

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I believe we should leave Iraq, should have never been there in first place,

Oh, and I suppose you would have allowed Saddam to continue breaking the Cease Fire Agreement and UN resolutions for another 12 (or 20, or 40) years. How long is long enough?

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but the REALITY is US is not gonna leave that oil!

Proof, please. So far the left are the only ones screaming about "It's the oil!"

40 has been about how long Israel has been ignoring U.N. Resolutions, but I suppose we shouldn't be bothered by the bigger human rights crisis there.

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I believe we should leave Iraq, should have never been there in first place,

Oh, and I suppose you would have allowed Saddam to continue breaking the Cease Fire Agreement and UN resolutions for another 12 (or 20, or 40) years. How long is long enough?

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but the REALITY is US is not gonna leave that oil!

Proof, please. So far the left are the only ones screaming about "It's the oil!"

40 has been about how long Israel has been ignoring U.N. Resolutions, but I suppose we shouldn't be bothered by the bigger human rights crisis there.

And nukes to boot! Fire up the Humvees, boys! Somebody call Halliburton, we've got a war on![:@]

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ORIGINAL: tafkam

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I believe we should leave Iraq, should have never been there in first place,

Oh, and I suppose you would have allowed Saddam to continue breaking the Cease Fire Agreement and UN resolutions for another 12 (or 20, or 40) years. How long is long enough?

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but the REALITY is US is not gonna leave that oil!

Proof, please. So far the left are the only ones screaming about "It's the oil!"

40 has been about how long Israel has been ignoring U.N. Resolutions, but I suppose we shouldn't be bothered by the bigger human rights crisis there.

And nukes to boot! Fire up the Humvees, boys! Somebody call Halliburton, we've got a war on![:@]

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ljmac has stated in other threads that those of who are opposed to this war do not want the United States to win.

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ljmac has stated in other threads that those of who are opposed to this war do not want the United States to win.

I thought it meant you loved abortion if you didn't agree with the war?

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You might be homosexual or love homosexuals too.

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Heard on NPR yesterday that the Iraqi soccer team may not get to participate in the World Cup or Olympics.

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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A U.S. Marine in Iraq has been removed from duty amid complaints that he was handing out coins with Bible verses at an American checkpoint, the military said Thursday.

A military spokesman said Iraqis in Falluja complained that the Marine was giving the coins, which were printed in Arabic, to people at an entry control point in Falluja.

U.S. military regulations prohibit religious proselytizing.

"This has our full attention," said Col. James L. Welsh, chief of staff of Multi-National Force, West. "We deeply value our relationship with the local citizens and share their concerns over this serious incident."

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I don't have a caption or comment on this the article explains it all:

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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A U.S. Marine in Iraq has been removed from duty amid complaints that he was handing out coins with Bible verses at an American checkpoint, the military said Thursday.

A military spokesman said Iraqis in Falluja complained that the Marine was giving the coins, which were printed in Arabic, to people at an entry control point in Falluja.

U.S. military regulations prohibit religious proselytizing.

"This has our full attention," said Col. James L. Welsh, chief of staff of Multi-National Force, West. "We deeply value our relationship with the local citizens and share their concerns over this serious incident."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/05/29/iraq.bible/index.html

Of course, if he was a Blackwater goon opening fire on innocent civilians for no reason that would be ok.

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First...we do not know, and probably will never know the CIRCUMSTANCES through which the "Blackwater" thing happened....so, in light of that....it's mere speculation (and wishful thinking by those in the U.S. media, and SOME politicians) that some so-called "goon" just simply "opened fire" on "innocent" civilians......

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Wonder what would happen if that were Muslim soldiers here in dallas....passing out Muslim coins to folks as they were walking down the street....in front of First Baptist Church of Dallas....I believe that would cause quite an uproar, as well....

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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Some Shiite and Sunni Muslim leaders in Iraq -- able to agree on little else -- are united in their opposition to a prospective long-term security agreement between their country's government and the United States.

Many Iraqis suspect it could lead to the establishment of bases, a long-term presence of American troops, and a weakening of Iraqi government control of foreign troops.

Powerful Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr has said any such agreement should be put to a popular referendum.

Street demonstrations Friday in several Shiite Baghdad neighborhoods reflected his position.

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News and developments in the Iraqi quagmire

1. A truck explosion killed 19 civilians in Baghdad; and, 3 US troops were killed.

2. Gunmen shot and killed Col. Dhafir Al-Ani of the general inspector office of the Iraqi interior ministry. This was one of a number of events of political violence in Iraq yesterday.

3. A Senate committee has reported today that George W. Bush and senior-ranking policymakers ignored doubts amongst intel services re: Iraq's WMD capabilities.

4. The British daily, The Independent, stated that details of a Bush-Maliki security agreement have been leaked. If this report is correct, Bush wants:
- 50 military bases
- control of Iraqi airspace
- legal immunity for all American soldiers and contractors

This doesn't make Iraq sovereign now, does it?

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This doesn't make Iraq sovereign now, does it?

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BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq said on Friday it would not grant U.S. troops freedom of movement for military operations in a new agreement being negotiated on extending the presence of American troops on its soil.

Deputy Prime Minister Barham Salih said the United States wanted its forces to operate without any restrictions, but this was not acceptable to Iraq.

The United States, which invaded Iraq in 2003 to oust Saddam Hussein, is negotiating an agreement with Iraq aimed at giving a legal basis for U.S. troops to stay in Iraq after December 31, when their United Nations mandate expires.

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Meanwhile the right is stealing it as fast as they can and selling it to us for almost $4 per gallon.

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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- As the Iraq war continues with no clear end in sight, the cost to taxpayers may balloon to $2.7 trillion by the time the conflict comes to an end, according to Congressional testimony.

In a hearing held by the Joint Economic Committee Thursday, members of Congress heard testimony about the current costs of the war and the future economic fallout from returning soldiers.

At the beginning of the conflict in 2003, the Bush administration gave Congress a cost estimate of $60 billion to $100 billion for the entirety of the war. But the battle has been dragging on much longer than most in the government expected, and costs have ballooned to nearly ten times the original estimate.

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U.S. officials had assumed - and promised as much to Congress - that Saddam's downfall would open the way for oil companies to return to Iraq, overhaul the oil facilities and hugely increase output. Instead, insurgent attacks have bedeviled output and raised security costs by billions of dollars. And a massive smuggling operation has siphoned hundreds of thousands of barrels a day on to the black market.