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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/15/2008 10:01:21 PM
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Closie
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I'm not going to vote for him but I will never understand why so many people on this board feel the need to vilify Obama so. If you support McCain, then tell us what is and what's good about his policies. I recall anti-Romney posts, but not posts that used such negative words about him or Guiliani or Edwards. But Obama evokes that? If you disagree with aforementioned people's policies, fine. But what's the difference with Obama? Not that he's pro-choice - others were. Not that his world view is not consistent with a Christian world view because other's didn't. What's the difference?
I'm 50 years old. In my lifetime, there won't be a black person or an African-American or a Negro or a colored person elected president. There will always be something wrong.
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/15/2008 10:04:02 PM
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Closie
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Malcolm X.
Isn't he dead? I think one of the qualifications of president is that you have to be living. 
EV Hill is dead too.
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/15/2008 10:11:05 PM
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No Julius, I did not realize that about Colin Powell, I will look into it. The deal is I can see why you want Obama, and I do not blame you, so would I, if my child was stationed in the Middle East. Your a good father it seems, and love your children very much. So no comdenation for your views from me. Hope this does not offend you, not mt intention.
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/15/2008 11:35:31 PM
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Jhud
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Sowell and Steele aren't qualified based on experience. I've already talked about Rice. Watts is a possibility, but he's too low key. Keyes? He's run twice that I know of, was declared the winner of every debate he participated in, but in the end, was declared "unelectable."
Why would Sowell and Steele not be qualified, compared to our current crop of candidates? Sowell is brighter than any of the candidates running, probably any that have run in recent memory. Plus he has a PhD in economics - heavens knows we could use that talent right about now.
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/16/2008 3:18:29 AM
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That's a bad question.
Then don't respond. It's that simple.
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Man, some people are soooo touchy.
Any society obsessed with racial categorization will be racially divided.
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/16/2008 3:42:07 AM
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I'm not going to vote for him but I will never understand why so many people on this board feel the need to vilify Obama so. If you support McCain, then tell us what is and what's good about his policies. I recall anti-Romney posts, but not posts that used such negative words about him or Guiliani or Edwards. But Obama evokes that? If you disagree with aforementioned people's policies, fine. But what's the difference with Obama? Not that he's pro-choice - others were. Not that his world view is not consistent with a Christian world view because other's didn't. What's the difference?
I'm 50 years old. In my lifetime, there won't be a black person or an African-American or a Negro or a colored person elected president. There will always be something wrong.
I totally agree.
- Julius
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/16/2008 6:20:43 AM
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/16/2008 7:50:32 AM
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P31W
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Is there ANY black person worthy to be President?
Another thread about the color of the person's skin. What a waste. I don't see ANY about Hilary being a woman threads. Some folks WILL NOT vote for a woman to be president.
The TRUTH is there are very few people in "this country" who won't vote for Obama because he is not
100% Black
100% White
A woman
A christian
Raised in a certain part of the country
and the list goes on and one.
I cannot stand the man because of his religious beliefs. He is a racist pure and simple.
If McCain had been a member of the KKK for 20 years, made the Klan leader his spiritural mentor, named a book after one of the klan leaders sermons and raised his children in that klan I would NOT vote for him either.
IF he tried to "tell me" not to "judge him" over this I would laugh in his face.
I think some people just "wish" this was about race. The truth is MOST of us on THIS forum see his religious beliefs as nothing more than racist propaganda. That very 'faith' he says effects his morals, values and worldview.
< Message edited by P31W -- 4/16/2008 7:58:17 AM >
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/16/2008 9:17:18 AM
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I think some people just "wish" this was about race. The truth is MOST of us on THIS forum see his religious beliefs as nothing more than racist propaganda. That very 'faith' he says effects his morals, values and worldview.
I don't think anyone thinks this is about race. We all know this is about politics.
Obama has the potential to undo most of the damage Reagan did, and conservatives on these forums are running scared. They're trying to figure out how to nitpick his church, how to claim he's a Marxist, and plenty of other stuff. Ultimately, some people can't imagine a Christian who could live with legalized abortion. Others think any president who wants to raise their taxes is a Marxist. Still others can't stand any tinge of liberal elitism.
Meanwhile, they're completely ignoring the important stuff like the federal budget deficit and the $260 Billion in debt service payments our country makes every year.
The US needs to end the Iraq war and allow the Bush tax cuts to expire in order to fix the budget deficit, and the only person who can do this is a Democrat.
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/16/2008 9:32:24 AM
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A Walter Williams/ Thomas Sowell ticket(or Sowell/Willams, it matters not which, to me) would be a landslide victory.
Michael Steele (who had his character assinated by the lefties) would be another.
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/16/2008 9:40:47 AM
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Obama has the potential to undo most of the damage Reagan did, and conservatives on these forums are running scared. Twenty years later the Reagan legacy lives on? What a laugh! I can only dream that it were so...
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/16/2008 9:56:55 AM
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Good call, Ben! It sure ain't like it was under Ronnie. Obama ranks up there with suicide on my support list. 
Wait, are you saying you'd kill yourself if Barry were elected?
You wouldn't settle for a one way flight to Canada?
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/16/2008 10:03:46 AM
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Obama has the potential to undo most of the damage Reagan did, and conservatives on these forums are running scared.
In MY opinion, the best president of MY lifetime (65+ years) was Ronald Reagan!! Why on earth would I want to vote for anyone who "has the potential to undo most of" what he was able to do [accomplish for good & rightness]?
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/16/2008 10:05:36 AM
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blessedinnyc
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Obama has the potential to undo most of the damage Reagan did, and conservatives on these forums are running scared.
In MY opinion, the best president of MY lifetime (65+ years) was Ronald Reagan!! Why on earth would I want to vote for anyone who "has the potential to undo most of" what he was able to do?
If budgets didn't exist, he would have been a great president. His tax cuts doubled the national debt from roughly $1 Trillion to $2 Trillion in about five years.
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/16/2008 10:14:51 AM
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If budgets didn't exist, he would have been a great president. His tax cuts doubled the national debt from roughly $1 Trillion to $2 Trillion in about five years.
If the [taxers & spenders] of Congress had not attached all their Pork Pork Pork in order to pass anything of important --- the national debt would not have reached anywhere near that --- if it would have raised at all.
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/16/2008 10:17:48 AM
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Jhud
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I'm not going to vote for him but I will never understand why so many people on this board feel the need to vilify Obama so. If you support McCain, then tell us what is and what's good about his policies. I recall anti-Romney posts, but not posts that used such negative words about him or Guiliani or Edwards. But Obama evokes that? If you disagree with aforementioned people's policies, fine. But what's the difference with Obama? Not that he's pro-choice - others were. Not that his world view is not consistent with a Christian world view because other's didn't. What's the difference?
I'm 50 years old. In my lifetime, there won't be a black person or an African-American or a Negro or a colored person elected president. There will always be something wrong.
I think the difference is front-runner status. Indeed, that needs to be pointed out - the man is the front runner in the Democrat party for President of the US, arguably the most powerful position in the world today. There are only two candidates (well, 1 1/2) between him and that office. And once he gets there, the election will mean nothing, because the difficulties he could face will be so far greater than anything Hillary or a few radio pundits can throw at him; and the potential for disaster so high that we can actually watch it age men in office in a few short years.
So if Obama and his supporters are so thin skinned that they can't take the rough and tumble of a Presidential election that has occurred since the office existed, then he and they should just get out of the way and let someone serious run for office, because we don't have the luxury of electing a whiny, Ivy-league educated snob who thinks our country owes him the Presidency.
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William F. Buckley Jr. 1925-2008
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/16/2008 10:17:58 AM
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blessedinnyc
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If the [taxers & spenders] of Congress had not attached all their Pork Pork Pork in order to pass anything of important --- the national debt would not have reached anywhere near that --- if it would have raised at all.
Ironically, Democrats cut down on this practice when they took over from Republicans in 2006. Incidentally, the budget deficit decreased.
These days, we can only choose between tax-and-spend Democrats and borrow-and-spend Republicans. Personally, I'd rather have Congress tax-and-spend than borrow and spend.
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/16/2008 10:20:54 AM
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Jhud
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Ironically, Democrats cut down on this practice when they took over from Republicans in 2006. Incidentally, the budget deficit decreased.
These days, we can only choose between tax-and-spend Democrats and borrow-and-spend Republicans. Personally, I'd rather have Congress tax-and-spend than borrow and spend.
Personally, I would rather we threw both out and elected people who consistently spent within their means; and if Congress can't do it, they should give the President the power to trim the excess.
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William F. Buckley Jr. 1925-2008
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RE: Is there ANY black person worthy to be President? - 4/16/2008 10:22:19 AM
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Is there ANY black person worthy to be President?
None that I know of but then I do not know any non-black who is worthy
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