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lightshineon -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/3/2008 6:00:26 PM)

Mike I thought of you today because something I saw. I was at Super Braums, and in line behind a little lady, wanting to cry she was elderly and on food stamps. I am very soft hearted towards people. She had bougt some bread, milk, chips, cereal and other things. Goldie ( the cashier) was putting this womans things in the sack, very slow, and meticuliously (sp). I was amazed at the care she took, even if it took longer, and I was behind her. When the lady left, I mentioned to Godlie " The care she bagged this little old ladies food." She replied " I care about the coustomers." That is you, you care about the job, the product. No it is not sin it is rightouness. Praise God for people like you, pick that head up, and go with confidence.
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ORIGINAL: humbleinspirit

Thanks Lightshineon, I am just only getting back to this thread now. I do take pain staking effort on keeping in details on doing a job just right. With that said, my immediate supervisor is a real perfectionist, and no matter how well that I do a job, he always nit-picks on something that I either did wrong or did not do at all! [&:]

BTW, thank you everyone for your postings and putting up with my "venting" from earlier this week. I appreciate all of your support! [:)]



humbleinspirit -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/4/2008 12:02:02 AM)

Thank you Light for sharing that, I am touched!



DenimDiva -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/6/2008 12:37:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lightshineon

Mike I thought of you today because something I saw. I was at Super Braums, and in line behind a little lady, wanting to cry she was elderly and on food stamps. I am very soft hearted towards people. She had bougt some bread, milk, chips, cereal and other things. Goldie ( the cashier) was putting this womans things in the sack, very slow, and meticuliously (sp). I was amazed at the care she took, even if it took longer, and I was behind her. When the lady left, I mentioned to Godlie " The care she bagged this little old ladies food." She replied " I care about the coustomers." That is you, you care about the job, the product. No it is not sin it is rightouness. Praise God for people like you, pick that head up, and go with confidence.
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ORIGINAL: humbleinspirit

Thanks Lightshineon, I am just only getting back to this thread now. I do take pain staking effort on keeping in details on doing a job just right. With that said, my immediate supervisor is a real perfectionist, and no matter how well that I do a job, he always nit-picks on something that I either did wrong or did not do at all! [&:]

BTW, thank you everyone for your postings and putting up with my "venting" from earlier this week. I appreciate all of your support! [:)]



When I was cashiering, I used to go slowly when bagging the items as well. What good does it do for a customer to buy things and get them home only to have their bread squished and eggs broken?

I had average IPHS (items per hour scanned). I could've had above average IPHS, but my customers would not have been as satisified. An unsatisified customer is a tradegy to a business.



DenimDiva -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/6/2008 12:42:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SonInMe1

My wife would consider 50 hours a week a part time job.


Why?

How does she handle it?

With all the family and church obligations I have, 50 hours a week working (not including lunch and commute) would mean that I'd have to eliminate some of that. I don't know what I'd eliminate..... unfortunately I'd probably eliminate time with the Lord and Bible reading first. [:o]



Focusing -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/8/2008 3:32:43 PM)

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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin?

Not at all.

Sometimes rushing around, not paying attention to instruction or detail is a very bad thing, kwim?



lightshineon -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/8/2008 5:19:27 PM)

My Nana, a very Godly woman, was very slow, she would iorn her pillow cases. It would almost seem like an art form watching her do a task with such great care.



redeemedsaint -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/9/2008 4:35:24 PM)

If I'm behind you in traffic in the left lane and I'm going 65 and you are going 35.[:D]



humbleinspirit -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/9/2008 7:28:14 PM)

Part of the problem too is that my boss is a perfectionist, almost everything that I do when he is keeping an eye on me is wrong.



humbleinspirit -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/9/2008 7:35:26 PM)

I also hurt my back again today doing some very heavy lifting as well. I am very much starting to believe that it might be time to find a new job. There are just too many negative variable happening here.

Also, commenting on the 50 hours a week thing, it seems that in the Northeast that this is what a lot of employers require. Now I don't work that many hours, however I do regularly put it more than 40 hours a week though. For example, I stayed 'til 8PM last night because of a last minute thing that came in that "just had" to be done that night.



lightshineon -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/9/2008 8:50:12 PM)

Sounds like your defining yourself by you boss and his opinion. It is hard but never let someone else define who you are. I would get a new job too, if someone stressed me out, as much as he does you, I would be looking for something that did no. Factor in the drive, the gas prices, and wearing of your body I would pray ask the Lord for wisdom and leading if he wanted me to move on.
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ORIGINAL: humbleinspirit

I also hurt my back again today doing some very heavy lifting as well. I am very much starting to believe that it might be time to find a new job. There are just too many negative variable happening here.

Also, commenting on the 50 hours a week thing, it seems that in the Northeast that this is what a lot of employers require. Now I don't work that many hours, however I do regularly put it more than 40 hours a week though. For example, I stayed 'til 8PM last night because of a last minute thing that came in that "just had" to be done that night.



humbleinspirit -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/9/2008 8:55:51 PM)

Thanks Light, I did hear something like that recently as well. I know that I need to get my self worth from God and nobody else, but its hard when you want to work hard, and to a certain extent be recognized for what you do as well.

The big problem, or at least the one that ails me is that I am really only skilled in the field that I am in, if you could even call it that? And the other jobs all seem to have the term "fast-paced" listed in their employment sections. I wonder if I should go work for a hotel instead? But then again, if you are a bell hop or something, then you have to do heavy lifting as well.

One thing for sure though, I would not have to do the type of lifting that I do now on the job, and I do trust my abillity to do a good "quality" job. I just do not trust my abillity to keep up a fast pace though. Again, this seems to be a Northeast thing more than anything else.


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ORIGINAL: lightshineon

Sounds like your defining yourself by you boss and his opinion. It is hard but never let someone else define who you are. I would get a new job too, if someone stressed me out, as much as he does you, I would be looking for something that did no. Factor in the drive, the gas prices, and wearing of your body I would pray ask the Lord for wisdom and leading if he wanted me to move on.
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ORIGINAL: humbleinspirit

I also hurt my back again today doing some very heavy lifting as well. I am very much starting to believe that it might be time to find a new job. There are just too many negative variable happening here.

Also, commenting on the 50 hours a week thing, it seems that in the Northeast that this is what a lot of employers require. Now I don't work that many hours, however I do regularly put it more than 40 hours a week though. For example, I stayed 'til 8PM last night because of a last minute thing that came in that "just had" to be done that night.




lightshineon -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/9/2008 9:02:04 PM)

People do move fast paced in that area. Is there so job similar to what your skill is, that is slower paced. Maybe you are doing just fine, and have an unreasonable boss too.
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ORIGINAL: humbleinspirit

Thanks Light, I did hear something like that recently as well. I know that I need to get my self worth from God and nobody else, but its hard when you want to work hard, and to a certain extent be recognized for what you do as well.

The big problem, or at least the one that ails me is that I am really only skilled in the field that I am in, if you could even call it that? And the other jobs all seem to have the term "fast-paced" listed in their employment sections. I wonder if I should go work for a hotel instead? But then again, if you are a bell hop or something, then you have to do heavy lifting as well.

One thing for sure though, I would not have to do the type of lifting that I do now on the job, and I do trust my abillity to do a good "quality" job. I just do not trust my abillity to keep up a fast pace though. Again, this seems to be a Northeast thing more than anything else.


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ORIGINAL: lightshineon

Sounds like your defining yourself by you boss and his opinion. It is hard but never let someone else define who you are. I would get a new job too, if someone stressed me out, as much as he does you, I would be looking for something that did no. Factor in the drive, the gas prices, and wearing of your body I would pray ask the Lord for wisdom and leading if he wanted me to move on.
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ORIGINAL: humbleinspirit

I also hurt my back again today doing some very heavy lifting as well. I am very much starting to believe that it might be time to find a new job. There are just too many negative variable happening here.

Also, commenting on the 50 hours a week thing, it seems that in the Northeast that this is what a lot of employers require. Now I don't work that many hours, however I do regularly put it more than 40 hours a week though. For example, I stayed 'til 8PM last night because of a last minute thing that came in that "just had" to be done that night.





humbleinspirit -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/9/2008 9:11:19 PM)

I really cannot think if there is anything slower, and considering all the jobs that I have had in my life, I wonder if the slowness is just me instead? However, people move 40% faster than they did 20 years ago, and its ridiculous! Now some jobs that I had they didn't mind me being slow, however the people who I have worked for during nearly the past 10 years though...



lightshineon -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/9/2008 9:25:05 PM)

I think it has more to do with greed and driving people like animals, so they can make more profit. You can only do what you can do, and sounds like your boss is rather demanding.
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ORIGINAL: humbleinspirit

I really cannot think if there is anything slower, and considering all the jobs that I have had in my life, I wonder if the slowness is just me instead? However, people move 40% faster than they did 20 years ago, and its ridiculous! Now some jobs that I had they didn't mind me being slow, however the people who I have worked for during nearly the past 10 years though...



SonInMe1 -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/9/2008 9:28:26 PM)

I think the question is how effeciant are you?

Efficiency will out produce speed everytime. Do you use your time wisely? Do you set goals and try to improve the time spent doing them? Do you examine better work practices to reduce time and effort.

I tell my guys all the time that good thinking will outproduce speed all the time. Its finding the most efficient way of doing things and trying to improve those methods all the time.

For example...I work in printing and my assistants main responsibility is the packaging of our product, tickets. They are folded in a stream and when the stack is the right size a buzzer goes off and they must break the stream, band the tickets and place them in a certain direction into a box.

There is a counter that ticks off the folds, which we go by to determine stack size.

I tell them to look at the counter and try to package their stacks to a lower number on that counter to compete with themselves to become better and faster.

Unfortunatly most don't improve and its purely a lack of effort. If they do not package the product in an efficient manner then they do not have time to inspect the product before packageing, their most important task.

It doesn't matter how fast I run the press...the slower I go, the slower they go.

Bottom line is, if you WANT to imporve you will.



humbleinspirit -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/9/2008 9:39:54 PM)

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Efficiency will out produce speed everytime. Do you use your time wisely? Do you set goals and try to improve the time spent doing them? Do you examine better work practices to reduce time and effort.


I am moving at the best that I ever have, but this is simply not good enough for the boss though. Also, I will once again reiterate that I refuse to work myself crazy though.

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I tell them to look at the counter and try to package their stacks to a lower number on that counter to compwete with themselves to become better and faster.


But what if they make mistakes or cut corners in an attempt to become more efficient?



SonInMe1 -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/10/2008 8:36:12 AM)

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ut what if they make mistakes or cut corners in an attempt to become more efficient?


Then it wouldn't be efficient...it would just be fast.

I've done the assistants job....for two years I did it. I have a bad back and nerve damage in one hand which limits its use...and I can do their job faster and better than they can.

Why? Because I had to find a way to do it. Granted, I am very competetive and I want to be a valued employee.

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I will once again reiterate that I refuse to work myself crazy though.


Just as a perspective of differing personalities, I must say, to not give everything I have in my job would drive me crazy. To me, there is no reason to go to work...to not do the work. It would be a waste of my time. At work, I am working.

My boss will come over and want to talk. The guy can talk and its like, ya know...I DO have a job to do, ya know?

Everyday I look for ways to improve my production. Even when we are in "slow mode" without much work to do, I try to be as efficient as possible. I'll clean and organize and try to find better ways to accomplish my goal.

You get negative feed back for being slow...I get it for being too productive. I know....it floors me too. I'm talkin' about quality product made in the least amount of time with the least amount of waste.



DenimDiva -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/10/2008 10:33:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: humbleinspirit

However, people move 40% faster than they did 20 years ago, and its ridiculous!


I've heard something like that before and I have to wonder what good reasoning there is behind that?



humbleinspirit -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/10/2008 10:38:38 AM)

Thank you for your comments SonInme, different perspectives, but something to think about none the less. I do find myself multi-tasking more, something that simply doesn't come natural for me as I am "get super involved" in a single task type person instead. I hate interruptions!


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ORIGINAL: DenimDiva

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ORIGINAL: humbleinspirit

However, people move 40% faster than they did 20 years ago, and its ridiculous!


I've heard something like that before and I have to wonder what good reasoning there is behind that?


My only guess is 2 (now 3) reasons, time is money, world competitiveness and the simple culture of being busy as well. God forbid that we slow down, then we might actually have to think about life instead.



SonInMe1 -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/11/2008 1:29:31 AM)

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multi-tasking


The evil satan inspired activity...[:D].

Now, what I am going to say is a little speculative since I am not God but..

I believe one reason why God has allowed my hand to be nerve damaged is to SLOW me down. I've always been very competitive and very physically orientated, trying to out achieve by working faster and better.

Some of that is good, some not and I have had to learn to slow down, be under control and still produce. I think God has made us each with differing challenges and we should recognise them and deal with them respectivly.



crm4souls -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/11/2008 3:26:31 AM)

If so, then we should also ask the question: Is being too fast a sin?



humbleinspirit -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/11/2008 10:05:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SonInMe1

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multi-tasking




Some of that is good, some not and I have had to learn to slow down, be under control and still produce. I think God has made us each with differing challenges and we should recognise them and deal with them respectivly.


I agree.



humbleinspirit -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/11/2008 10:08:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: crm4souls

If so, then we should also ask the question: Is being too fast a sin?


Now that all depends I think.



DenimDiva -> RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? (5/12/2008 4:31:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: humbleinspirit

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ORIGINAL: crm4souls

If so, then we should also ask the question: Is being too fast a sin?


Now that all depends I think.


I think that's a good question. [8D]



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