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SonInMe1 -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 7:52:41 AM)

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Land that was once used to grow food is increasingly being turned over to biofuels. This may help us to fight global warming -


The fear of global warming and the fearmonger environmentalists behind these scare tactics made us turn our food supply into some polutant free fuel...when its not effieicent or NEEDED!!.

That...is fear for ya.

This corn thing? There are many kinds of corn and the corn you feed cows with and the corn you eat are two very different corns. They are not interchangeable.

Not all farmers are benefitting from this. Dairy farmers have had their feed prices go up..along with their feul prices.



Consecrated2God -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 8:59:15 AM)

It doesn't sound like they are rationing food, just limiting large food purchases. If people start panicking and buying huge amounts of food and trying to hoard it, then there will be food shortages. I don't think there are food shortages at this point, though. I haven't had any trouble finding the groceries I need.

We are putting out a large garden this year, and we have chickens for eggs, but that's not because we're afraid of food rationing. We have growing children that are eating more the older they get, and I want to keep my food budget the same. It's either make my food budget a bit bigger or grow some of it on our own. We can't grow everything we need, but we can make a dent in it.



P31W -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 9:06:15 AM)

Anyone need some turnip greens? We have them running out the wazoo![:D]

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We are putting out a large garden this year, and we have chickens for eggs, but that's not because we're afraid of food rationing. We have growing children that are eating more the older they get, and I want to keep my food budget the same. It's either make my food budget a bit bigger or grow some of it on our own. We can't grow everything we need, but we can make a dent in it.


We like you always have a large garden and now that we have water pumps to keep everything watered I am sure we could produce if we needed to enough food to feed several large families for a year.

In rural areas most people have gardens for fun, it taste good and to save a little money.



stamper_ben -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 9:50:24 AM)

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This corn thing? There are many kinds of corn and the corn you feed cows with and the corn you eat are two very different corns. They are not interchangeable.
No, humans cannot eat feed corn, but the cattle do, the same animals we drink the milk of and eat the steaks of, so when 30% of the total corn crop is going to fuel you better believe it WILL affect your eating habits through shortages or how much you pay.



Consecrated2God -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 9:51:06 AM)

I agree--gardening is fun. Nothing beats the taste of homegrown tomatoes. Mmm! [:D] I wish we had room for a cow, but we're thinking about aquiring a dairy goat. Who knows--maybe someday I can learn to make cheese!

One thing I'll probably always need to get from the store though is sugar. I suppose we could raise bees and gather our own honey, but I prefer the taste of white sugar in many recipes to honey. I also think I'll be dependent on the grocery store for my chocolate needs. [;)]



stamper_ben -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 10:22:16 AM)

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One thing I'll probably always need to get from the store though is sugar.
You could always raise Cain cane.



davemiller7 -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 11:18:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben

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One thing I'll probably always need to get from the store though is sugar.
You could always raise Cain cane.

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You could always raise Cain cane.


Ouch!



Consecrated2God -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 12:46:32 PM)

One of my dear friends has a son by that name, but I think she's raising him. I doubt she needs my help. [8D]



stamper_ben -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 12:47:17 PM)

No doubt he's sugary sweet....



Consecrated2God -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 12:49:35 PM)

Well, if I were raising him I'm sure he would be. [:D]



bob97 -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 1:40:18 PM)

Good grief...did you ever hear of a garden. Food is not the problem but it might be a little more expensive for a while. This ethanol experience has caused a squeeze but believe me this will abate in a very short period. All we have to do is turn off the $1.25 per gallon government subsidy and those plants converting corn into ethanol will shut down real fast. We cannot afford to use more energy to get a gallon of ethanol than what the ethanol will provide, and that doesn’t count the waste of water (7 gals per gal of ethanol) It’s just another really stupid knee jerk reaction by our government and Al Gore. He started this whole mess back in 1995 when he sponsored a bill in congress. We have proven ways to produce energy, i.e. coal, nuclear and wind, why invent something that won’t work?

Bob



mapachito13 -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 2:28:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bob97

We cannot afford to use more energy to get a gallon of ethanol than what the ethanol will provide, and that doesn’t count the waste of water (7 gals per gal of ethanol)

why invent something that won’t work?

Bob


Good question!

The term "straining for a gnat and swallowing a camel" comes to mind. Bio-fuels are a joke and a scientific farce. The CO2 savings will NOT be realized. I hope we can derail this system before it's another entrenched mistake.



rnershigh -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 2:55:02 PM)

I just went to costco and the asian grocery store today. There is no limit or rationing of food items such as rice.
The asian grocery store had shelves full of rice bags.
I suppose this run on the rice and other food items is just confined to certain parts of the country.



StephK -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 3:11:44 PM)

I think it was in California/West Coast.



mapachito13 -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 3:25:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: StephK

I think it was in California/West Coast.


It's also in NYC, so it's not limited to the West. At least the sushi bars are fully stocked.



WesP -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 3:38:23 PM)

All I can say is that I am planting a garden that should alleviate some of my grocery bill. I do not fear starvation; I fear the price of eating. My grocery bill has gone up 30% this year without changing any habits.



lightshineon -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 3:49:41 PM)

my dd who is college age is growing tomatoes, I cannot grow anything, all my plants and four trees have died. I might try vegtables though.



clag4christ -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 3:51:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben

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This corn thing? There are many kinds of corn and the corn you feed cows with and the corn you eat are two very different corns. They are not interchangeable.
No, humans cannot eat feed corn, but the cattle do, the same animals we drink the milk of and eat the steaks of, so when 30% of the total corn crop is going to fuel you better believe it WILL affect your eating habits through shortages or how much you pay.

Amen!



3cappuccinosmom -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 4:15:00 PM)

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No, humans cannot eat feed corn,


Actually, I think we can. Ground into flour, etc. Sweet corn ("human" corn) was totally new to dh when he came from Africa. He think's it's too sweet, too soft, and rather strange. [8D]

I am not the least bit worried, nor stocking up. Prices *have* risen. But I am not seeing a food shortage. If one happens, we will adjust.

We should even be able to get deer and turkey occasionally. They are starting to overrun our neighborhood, and we are on the metro side of a suburb. [8|]



CherishedbyGod -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 6:06:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: StephK

I think it was in California/West Coast.
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I live in California. I was just online to a major rice producer here in California and there was no mention of rationing or shortages.

One would think if there is a real problem, they would at least mention it[8D]



StephK -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 7:29:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CherishedbyGod

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ORIGINAL: StephK

I think it was in California/West Coast.


I live in California. I was just online to a major rice producer here in California and there was no mention of rationing or shortages.

One would think if there is a real problem, they would at least mention it[8D]


It was done at Cosco's and Sam's. It was on the news. I do know that there isn't a rice shortage here since I live in rice farming country. Of course it isn't the same type of rice that is used in Asian cooking. That could be where the problem is. [;)]

Run on rice makes its way to U.S.

US stores forced to ration rice

Food Rationing Confronts Breadbasket of the World



SonInMe1 -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 10:01:45 PM)

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so when 30% of the total corn crop is going to fuel you better believe it WILL affect your eating habits through shortages or how much you pay.


I remember when the fuel prices went up in the seventies. Milk prices went...down and the feul prices went up...it killed a lot of farmers but...milk was still produced and no shortages. In fact, there has been a severe milk glut for years.



tracydolls -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/25/2008 10:23:35 PM)

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


The food shortages will get so bad that people will take the verichip to buy food.


Just imagine that tommorrow, you wake up and the stock market has completely crashed, another Katrina hits a larger part of America, where food is grown, and the terrorists hit some more stuff.

Or that the man that causes all to recieve the chip becomes president of US.

4 days with no H2O and you die, 30 days to starvation levels, me personally I probaly could go 60 days.

There are millions of people in US, that will not know what to do, how to respond, never went thru crisis, never slept in the elements, never hunted, never knew an hungry day. Won't realize that their paper money won't buy anything.

People that don't take that chip are gonna starve. That's a given.

I'm not taking the chip, so I expect to. I'm asking God for the strength to make it thru the suffering.



Annie64 -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/26/2008 5:09:00 AM)

In any actual food shortage, My family and I would be in a lot of trouble. I have tried, on occasion, to have a vegetable garden. What I've found is that I don't really know what I'm doing, so I think I go to a lot of unnecessary work and way too often have a poor yield. And I'm ashamed to admit it, but I'm a little afraid of farm animals, even cows to some degree, though I have more experience with cows than the zero experience my husband and children have. (My family had two cows until I was five or maybe six years old. Then my parents sold them. End of story.) We would need a tremendous amount of education and acclimation to be able to produce our own food. And I imagine there are a lot of Americans who would be in the same boat.

From what I read, I don't think we are really anywhere near that boat. The limits on rice seemed to me to be to prevent a run, rather than due to an actual shortage. But this thread is definitely a sobering warning that we are not immune to food shortage. We've been so well-fed for so long that it's very easy to forget that. It could happen. If it does, I hope there would be some Christian brothers and sisters from the country willing and able to give us city folk a hand in all the new things we'd have to learn, and be patient with us when large animals we don't know what to expect out of make us a little nervous! [8D]



3cappuccinosmom -> RE: FINAL WARNING: Food Rationing in the United States RIGHT NOW (4/26/2008 7:22:23 AM)

You know, most of us have never faced a real food shortage in our life. Some of us might benefit from eating less. [&o]

When McDonalds closes it's doors, I might start to worry just a little. Until then, I know we're not facing a shortage. [8D]

I also think that people are underestimating the human capacity to adapt, and God's ability to sustain us through even the worst disasters.

If you're really, really worried about food shortages but don't know how to grow food, go out and get the Encyclopedia of Country Living to have handy. The edition I have even has instructions for giving birth unassisted and surviving winter in a tipi with no heat. [:D]



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