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RE: McCain and the Religious Right - 5/1/2008 11:45:44 PM
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ljmac
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Since we're talking about not-so-intelligent things people say, another one might be that Pat Robertson is a member of the "radical right," a catch-all term used to describe anyone the left hates.
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Robertson, like God, is opposed to sodomy. And he isn't afraid to say so. That's why he gets tagged with labels like "radical right."
Actually I called him the 'radical right' because of his radical views on a lot of different subjects. I say he is on the right only because that is a label given to most Christians, and Robertson supports the Republican Party which is considered in politics to be 'the right'.
He may very well support moderate or liberal Republicans but if you ask any Democrat they will claim he is on the right, even Robertson himself makes this claim.
His views are radical in that he states that Aids is a punishment sent from God because of homosexuals, he doesn't even consider it as a consequence of sinful living. He doesn't take into account the number of innocent (well I guess we are all guilty since we all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God) lives that are lost to Aids due to infected blood transfusion's, accidental infections, babies born with HIV, etc.
Comparing Liberals to Nazi's is pretty radical. I don't recall Liberals ever having murdered and tortured Conservatives. I have never seen Conservatives marched into gas chambers by gun toting Liberals, have you?
So no, I don't considerate it ignorant, or to use your words not-so-intelligent, to call someone like Robertson or Falwell part of the radical right, nor do I consider it a catch-all phrase but rather a pretty good description because as I have already stated, their views do not fall in line with mainstream Conservative Christians.
50 million dead since Death Roe. Who needs gas chambers?
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RE: McCain and the Religious Right - 5/2/2008 12:07:25 AM
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50 million dead since Death Roe. Who needs gas chambers?
So am I to take it that it's the Liberals doing the abortions and the Conservatives are being aborted???
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RE: McCain and the Religious Right - 5/2/2008 12:33:59 AM
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50 million dead since Death Roe. Who needs gas chambers?
So am I to take it that it's the Liberals doing the abortions and the Conservatives are being aborted???
Yes, the killers are liberals. They target the most innocent and helpless human beings they can find.
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RE: McCain and the Religious Right - 5/3/2008 11:31:01 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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Comparing Liberals to Nazi's is pretty radical. I don't recall Liberals ever having murdered and tortured Conservatives. I have never seen Conservatives marched into gas chambers by gun toting Liberals, have you?
Given that Liberals overwelmly support aborition calling them Nazis falls pretty short if you go on body count... At best the Nazis have maybe 12,000,000 while the number of unborn children is over 40,000,000 and still climbing...
John
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RE: McCain and the Religious Right - 5/3/2008 11:32:15 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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50 million dead since Death Roe. Who needs gas chambers?
So am I to take it that it's the Liberals doing the abortions and the Conservatives are being aborted???
Actually it's unborn children... Much like the ones you'd see in the hospital right after they are born...
John
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RE: McCain and the Religious Right - 5/3/2008 11:52:21 PM
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Given that Liberals overwelmly support aborition calling them Nazis falls pretty short if you go on body count... At best the Nazis have maybe 12,000,000 while the number of unborn children is over 40,000,000 and still climbing...
While most Liberals are pro choice, or otherwise support abortion, it is a far cry from forcing people into gas chambers, from performing medical experiments without anesthesia, or any number of the atrocious things the Jews had to suffer through.
No one, and I mean no one, is forcing anyone to have an abortion. Liberals are not rounding up pregnant women and forcing them at gun point into the abortion clinics.
Now I am a Conservative and don't agree with Roe v Wade but if you think that by overturing the Supreme Court's decision is going to stop abortions you are crazy. The only way to stop it is to change people's mind about it, show them the truth.
But the point I was trying to make was/is Falwell and Robertson's statements are definitely radical and do not fall within the beliefs of most Conservative Christians.
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RE: McCain and the Religious Right - 5/4/2008 12:03:10 AM
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SovereignIsHe
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While most Liberals are pro choice, or otherwise support abortion, it is a far cry from forcing people into gas chambers, from performing medical experiments without anesthesia, or any number of the atrocious things the Jews had to suffer through.
No one, and I mean no one, is forcing anyone to have an abortion. Liberals are not rounding up pregnant women and forcing them at gun point into the abortion clinics.
Doesn't make their support for the cold blooded murder of the unborn any less... The Germans around the death camps who all knew what was going on were no less guilty than those in the camp loading the ovens...
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Now I am a Conservative and don't agree with Roe v Wade but if you think that by overturing the Supreme Court's decision is going to stop abortions you are crazy. The only way to stop it is to change people's mind about it, show them the truth.
The laws regarding murder aren't founded upon the principle of stopping murder... Though the concept of law and punishment is a deferent to some degree... Abortion is just term, what takes place is premeditated murder in cold blood… Murder for hire… Those who murder the unborn are no less quilty than those who murder those outside the womb... Having the government call it legal doesn't help and it puts the God ordained authority who is supposed to deal with evil(which abortion most certianly is...) in a place where it's condoning it... God said He will not be mocked...
John
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RE: McCain and the Religious Right - 5/4/2008 12:27:29 AM
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ljmac
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Given that Liberals overwelmly support aborition calling them Nazis falls pretty short if you go on body count... At best the Nazis have maybe 12,000,000 while the number of unborn children is over 40,000,000 and still climbing...
While most Liberals are pro choice, or otherwise support abortion, it is a far cry from forcing people into gas chambers, from performing medical experiments without anesthesia, or any number of the atrocious things the Jews had to suffer through.
No one, and I mean no one, is forcing anyone to have an abortion. Liberals are not rounding up pregnant women and forcing them at gun point into the abortion clinics.
Now I am a Conservative and don't agree with Roe v Wade but if you think that by overturing the Supreme Court's decision is going to stop abortions you are crazy. The only way to stop it is to change people's mind about it, show them the truth.
But the point I was trying to make was/is Falwell and Robertson's statements are definitely radical and do not fall within the beliefs of most Conservative Christians.
You've got the analogy all wrong. Unborn children, like Jews, are the victims, not the mothers. Unborn children are being forced in to abortuaries, having their limbs torn off and being disemboweled without anesthesia, and having any number of other atrocious things done to them. Mothers get to live.
Nobody that understands Death Roe thinks that overturning it will "stop abortions." Overturning Roe would simply end the nonsense that abortion is a Constitutional right and turn the issue to the states. Some states would put limits on abortion, some would not. But at least we'd be permitted to try and protect some children, much to the irritation of liberals.
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RE: McCain and the Religious Right - 5/4/2008 2:13:20 AM
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You know, unborn babies are defenseless, they cannot even fight back as the instrument is stuck in the base of the skull, and its brains are sucked form its tiny skull. I wonder if it is painful, what it feels like. Is it an intense pressure, searing pain, do they try to take a breath and cry/ Monsters support pro-choice, evil is behind it. Obama is evil supporting these things so is Clinton. I will never vote for a reprobate who condones a holocaust on innocent babies. Maybe people should be made to watch these abortions, and see the devils work in action, and maybe the religous right would not seem so bad. I mean are we like Germany in WW11, we turn our heads, and pretend things are not happening of great wickedness. These two Obama and Clinton "Hope" "change," "yes we can" makes me sick. I see no hope for babies, even those born alive the evil Obama, signed a bill, so the doctor could not treat them. I am sorry if this is ok with some of you, it is not ok with me.I will stick with the Religous Right, even if they are thought to be hypocrites, atleast they are trying. If the United States is punished by God for anything, it will be this! And excuses why we can't stop it is because frankly, we do not care enough to try, so go ahead vote for someone who does these things anway.
< Message edited by lightshineon -- 5/4/2008 2:20:08 AM >
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RE: McCain and the Religious Right - 5/4/2008 1:55:42 PM
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Have McCain been baptized?
Edited: Yikes! I wrote "have" instead of "has". I'll correct the grammar to get an answer -
Has McCain been baptized?
< Message edited by Closie -- 5/4/2008 3:36:10 PM >
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RE: McCain and the Religious Right - 5/4/2008 2:34:22 PM
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saved9201
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Have McCain been baptized?
Umm....sorry but you're off topic. This thread has suffered the inevitable fate of just about every other thread on CW, no matter what the topic. It's been hijacked by....guess who? That's right, "them" again. So unless you want to once again trek through the smoldering ruins of babies getting disemboweled and their limbs torn off, I suggest you go somewhere like the Sports forum.
- Julius
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RE: McCain and the Religious Right - 5/4/2008 2:49:18 PM
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Umm, this is a Religious Right Thread. I am sorry what I sais about Obama and Hillary in last post, but my own words disturbed me, about how unborn babies feel. I got angry, and regret calling him evil and Hillary also, not to mention reprobate, That was sin on my part, so everyone excuse me. I am passionate on this issue Julius, what my post did was make me stop and pray against abortion, in a very heart felt prayer. I prayed for the ones Obama, Hillary, all pro-choice, that God would change their hearts. I love children and animals very much, I cannot sqiush, a spider unless my normaly fearless husband screams for me too, so understand my heart with its compassion for the helpless, got very angry. Then I felt conviction speaking evil of people, repented and prayed very hard about this horrible thing.
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Have McCain been baptized?
Umm....sorry but you're off topic. This thread has suffered the inevitable fate of just about every other thread on CW, no matter what the topic. It's been hijacked by....guess who? That's right, "them" again. So unless you want to once again trek through the smoldering ruins of babies getting disemboweled and their limbs torn off, I suggest you go somewhere like the Sports forum.
- Julius
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Remember, whenever you have pearls, there are always plenty of pigs nearby who would be glad to step on them.
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Be sure you vote for those, whose views you want your children to emulate.
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RE: McCain and the Religious Right - 5/4/2008 10:14:44 PM
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I don't a have single issue calling people who collect votes paid for by the blood of unborn children evil... Their actions are so heinous it dictate what they are and speak for themselves. And everytime they invoke the name of God they are heaping coals on to their own head. It would be better for them to ignore God and go on about their ways...
John
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RE: McCain and the Religious Right - 5/4/2008 10:15:44 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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Have McCain been baptized?
Umm....sorry but you're off topic. This thread has suffered the inevitable fate of just about every other thread on CW, no matter what the topic. It's been hijacked by....guess who? That's right, "them" again. So unless you want to once again trek through the smoldering ruins of babies getting disemboweled and their limbs torn off, I suggest you go somewhere like the Sports forum.
- Julius
Heaven forbid anyone stick up for the unborn...
John
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