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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 1:40:52 PM
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TwinCityGirl
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Chelle's right about the back support....Sarah's saying the same. Nursing without back support is not fun.
Oh, and Sarah, that's funny about how I've learned a lot about nursing....yep -- I haven't been doing it for years or for multiple children, but my son is over 50 days old and at 8 times a day that equals over 400 times I have nursed him -- so no wonder I have learned a few things, huh? It's amazing how once you get through that right-after-the-birth fog of exhaustion how much of a smooth routine you can set in place, even if you don't know how long you will be nursing.
Adam has gained 3 pounds since his birth (so almost half a pound a week) so I know that the nursing is working for him, and I feel good about that.
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 2:09:54 PM
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You are doing great!
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 3:31:23 PM
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but my son is over 50 days old and at 8 times a day that equals over 400 times I have nursed him -- so no wonder I have learned a few things, huh? It's amazing how once you get through that right-after-the-birth fog of exhaustion how much of a smooth routine you can set in place, even if you don't know how long you will be nursing.
Adam has gained 3 pounds since his birth (so almost half a pound a week) so I know that the nursing is working for him, and I feel good about that.
Jeanie, that's awesome!!
pillows while nursing -- I LOVE my boppy.
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 5:05:24 PM
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I haven't been doing it for years or for multiple children, but my son is over 50 days old and at 8 times a day that equals over 400 times I have nursed him -- so no wonder I have learned a few things, huh?
LOL....hmmm...I wonder if I could figure out how many times I have nursed.....nah, too hard to even try to rack my brain for that....lol
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It's amazing how once you get through that right-after-the-birth fog of exhaustion how much of a smooth routine you can set in place, even if you don't know how long you will be nursing.
yup!!! And believe it or not, even us experienced nursers still have to go through that time right after birth too.
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Adam has gained 3 pounds since his birth (so almost half a pound a week) so I know that the nursing is working for him, and I feel good about that.
WOW...that's pretty good!!!! Is he long and lean or is he chunking out?
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I find that Josie is easily distracted so I when I have nursed her in the past (and definitely when I try now), I don't turn the TV or CD player on. It just works better for us.
you may regret that later when you have more then one kid  ...lol. My mom did the same with my older brother, and when I came along he still wouldn't sleep if I was up or making noise at all. She decided after that to purposely make noise at least during feedings or sleeping times so that she didn't have to go through that again. She couldn't do anything that made any noise when he was asleep.
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 5:20:33 PM
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I must admit that I am beginning to lose interest in breastfeeding. Nights feel so long waking up 2-3 times.
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 5:51:26 PM
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I must admit that I am beginning to lose interest in breastfeeding. Nights feel so long waking up 2-3 times.
Gabby is exclusively formula fed and she still wakes up twice, formula does not mean they will sleep through the night. Remember that it's just a phase 
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 6:40:07 PM
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I usually had quiet for nursing Nathan, especially once he was past 2 months old. We can make a decent amount of noise when he is asleep, but not a lot.
I'm sure I won't have the luxury of peace and quiet when/if a second baby comes along.
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 8:17:23 PM
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Yes this is true. And to be honest, most of my problem is my physical comfort of nursing. I get jealous of those who can just put the baby to the breast and have a free hand to do other things. My breasts are big and kind of "droopy" (sorry if tmi) that I have to support the breast while baby nurses. This makes it hard to nurse in public as well.
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 8:49:23 PM
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Have you tried a rolled up washcloth under them to give some support?
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 9:12:09 PM
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I'm also very big and kinda droopy. Ryanne, that made me giggle because my boob could totally hide a washcloth under it and not even be lifted up.
Lol! Well, I have to admit that I have no practical experience in that area  My SIL has these pillow things that she uses, I'll have to find the name of them. They look like wedge pillows for under your breast.
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 9:22:38 PM
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Is he long and lean or is he chunking out?
He is long and lean. He was 19 inches at birth and is now 22.25 inches with skinny legs -- he's just a long and lean boy, I guess. My DH and I were both like that.
I cannot even imagine how many times moms of more than one child have nursed. My mom had 8 of us kids and that is a LOT of nursing sessions! (No wonder they have a day set aside called MOTHER'S DAY. Boy do I have new insight on THAT this year!) (And Father's Day, too.)
(((Nicole))) if it helps, remember there are others of us that are up nursing at night, too, so you're in good company with your little eater!  And our little one has started skipping the 2 a.m. feedings many nights so that is just FABULOUS -- and he started doing that a few weeks ago so (and you certainly don't need ME to tell you this) but it *will* get better.
If not a washcloth, Nicole, maybe a rolled up hand towel? Anything so you don't have to hold it up yourself.
I'll pray for you and Mary tonight, okay? So know we're out here in Minnesota praying for your night!
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 9:28:04 PM
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I have a question in two parts due to some conversations I've had recently IRL with some moms:
1. If I remember correctly, someone here at the forums mentioned one time that when adding that first food (in addition to breastfeeding), to just SKIP the rice cereal and go to something else instead (can't remember what?)....I can't remember WHY not the rice cereal or what the other food was. Does that sound familiar to anyone?
2. Another Q related to breastfeeding: A woman with adult-aged children told me that when her first was still not sleeping through the night at 3 months old that she started adding cereal into the routine at night and that way the baby slept longer.
Now, I am *not* considering doing this and, in fact, I think it is a bad idea (but I didn't tell her that). It turns out this woman's child (now an adult) has some food allergies that no one else in the family has. I'm wondering if there is a link between the two? Not that I would ever tell this woman if I found a link, but when I heard "cereal" at three months I thought "That CANNOT have been good for that child", and then to find out the food allergies.....well, I'm just trying to see if my 1+1 is equaling 2 or not.
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 9:35:37 PM
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1. If I remember correctly, someone here at the forums mentioned one time that when adding that first food (in addition to breastfeeding), to just SKIP the rice cereal and go to something else instead (can't remember what?)....I can't remember WHY not the rice cereal or what the other food was. Does that sound familiar to anyone?
I think many of us do that, actually. I've not had a baby that really liked any of the infant cereals. I've also had babies that are easily constipated, so rice would be a bad idea in that instance. Another concern I think Sarah has brought up is that by having rice as a first food, you are conditioning baby to crave carbs, which are necessary, but not necessarily the bottom of the food chart anymore. I personally start with fruits and then veggies, and I do mix infant oatmeal in with them, to add fiber and iron, something my babies seem to need more than some others might.
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2. Another Q related to breastfeeding: A woman with adult-aged children told me that when her first was still not sleeping through the night at 3 months old that she started adding cereal into the routine at night and that way the baby slept longer.
If this woman has all grown children, then she was probably following the advice of that time. 3 months was not early at all "back in the day". I have had two children who have had small amounts of solids (fruits and veggies...not cereal) at 3-4 months, and they did fine with them. I do believe different babies are ready at different times, just like different babies crawl at different times and speak at different times. Part of being a mom is figuring out when the right time for YOUR baby is...and remembering that the guidelines are only recommendations. Some babies may be ready a bit early, some may be ready quite a bit later (one of mine didn't want much to do with any solid until over a year). As with much of parenting, it's trial and error.
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 10:05:46 PM
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Another concern I think Sarah has brought up is that by having rice as a first food, you are conditioning baby to crave carbs, which are necessary, but not necessarily the bottom of the food chart anymore. I personally start with fruits and then veggies, and I do mix infant oatmeal in with them, to add fiber and iron, something my babies seem to need more than some others might.
This is why we skipped cereal, for the most part. Our family has a very, very strong tendency towards diabetes, and diabetes type issues so carb intake is something that we are conscious of, and I want Gabby to understand to be conscious of as well.
Also, she just plain didn't like it
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 10:08:46 PM
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I must admit that I am beginning to lose interest in breastfeeding. Nights feel so long waking up 2-3 times.
Gabby is exclusively formula fed and she still wakes up twice, formula does not mean they will sleep through the night. Remember that it's just a phase
I am glad you said that because so many people try to blame it on breastfeeding when really it comes down to baby being hungry, or needing to know that a parent is around. They will sleep through when they are ready.....and not a minute before!
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 10:10:41 PM
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1. If I remember correctly, someone here at the forums mentioned one time that when adding that first food (in addition to breastfeeding), to just SKIP the rice cereal and go to something else instead (can't remember what?)....I can't remember WHY not the rice cereal or what the other food was. Does that sound familiar to anyone?
we don't do cereal...started out because my kids never liked it, but after really thinking about it we kind of kept going that route because really it's just a filler food. I don't want to teach my kids bodies for their first food to have to process things that are just fillers or things they don't really need. So we lean more now towards child led table foods or solid foods. In other words, I don't make much in the way of baby food...when they are old enough to reach for it themselves and get it down when cut into bite size or safe size pieces, then that's when they start to eat. We start them off on veggies and such, not cereal though. I also heard a few years ago that the older Dr Sears does not recommend cereal for babies because of the obesity thing in the US...he said there was no point in teaching their tiny body to have to process things like that so early on. He also said that there is a link to allergies in kids and the generations that had cereal pushed earlier then babies really have the ability to process things and digest things properly...so that is answering your second question. I don't doubt that...the whole reason Hannah is allergic to corn syrup is because a dr (WITHOUT our permission) gave her CS for constipation when she was about 3 weeks old. Her body couldn't handle it, and developed an allergy or sensitivity to it that she now, 7 years later, still has to deal with.
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Another concern I think Sarah has brought up is that by having rice as a first food, you are conditioning baby to crave carbs, which are necessary, but not necessarily the bottom of the food chart anymore. I personally start with fruits and then veggies, and I do mix infant oatmeal in with them, to add fiber and iron, something my babies seem to need more than some others might.
yup exactly...that's what Dr Sears said in the interview I saw on that one. (I don't know if you can find it, but you might be able to....it was a few years ago and on the Oprah show)
oatmeal yes we have used to add to foods if the baby really needed food before they were bigger and able to eat solids. My last two babies though didn't have anything before real solids (no mushed up baby foods). Jake was our baby that NEEDED baby food...he wouldn't have been able to handle it if he were just breastfed until he was on table foods. With him we added oatmeal because he liked the texture much better then the thinned out baby food.
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 10:13:12 PM
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I have a question in two parts due to some conversations I've had recently IRL with some moms:
1. If I remember correctly, someone here at the forums mentioned one time that when adding that first food (in addition to breastfeeding), to just SKIP the rice cereal and go to something else instead (can't remember what?)....I can't remember WHY not the rice cereal or what the other food was. Does that sound familiar to anyone? the reason why is that rice cereal, why low in allergy causing components, is a constipating factor. Usually it is better to start them with a vegetable (like peas, carrots, etc) then add a fruit, then add a cereal or a meat (for the iron content)...but since you should take a week or two with each new food addition..if you don't start solids until they are 4 to 6 months...they could be eating cheerios before you get baby cereal introduced! I actually just cooked rice and then smashed it for the baby (cooked without salt)...same with oatmeal, barley, etc. It has more nutrition and fiber and is FRESH that day...in fact....if you want "instant" baby food...you put the raw oatmeal, rice, etc through the blender to make a powder. You do have to use hot water to mix it up..but then you can cool it down with a little breastmilk or a touch of juice....
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2. Another Q related to breastfeeding: A woman with adult-aged children told me that when her first was still not sleeping through the night at 3 months old that she started adding cereal into the routine at night and that way the baby slept longer.
Now, I am *not* considering doing this and, in fact, I think it is a bad idea (but I didn't tell her that). It turns out this woman's child (now an adult) has some food allergies that no one else in the family has. I'm wondering if there is a link between the two? Not that I would ever tell this woman if I found a link, but when I heard "cereal" at three months I thought "That CANNOT have been good for that child", and then to find out the food allergies.....well, I'm just trying to see if my 1+1 is equaling 2 or not.
Jeanie
YES..there is a very strong possible link between her giving a 3 month old cereal and their food allergies now....which is why the AAP does not recommend starting cereals before at least 4 months, preferably at 6 months OR OLDER!
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 10:13:13 PM
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Oh, and just for the record. Starting solids actually made Gabby wake up MORE often I don't believe for a minute that giving them cereal makes them sleep through the night.
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 10:20:42 PM
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2. Another Q related to breastfeeding: A woman with adult-aged children told me that when her first was still not sleeping through the night at 3 months old that she started adding cereal into the routine at night and that way the baby slept longer.
Now, I am *not* considering doing this and, in fact, I think it is a bad idea (but I didn't tell her that). It turns out this woman's child (now an adult) has some food allergies that no one else in the family has. I'm wondering if there is a link between the two? Not that I would ever tell this woman if I found a link, but when I heard "cereal" at three months I thought "That CANNOT have been good for that child", and then to find out the food allergies.....well, I'm just trying to see if my 1+1 is equaling 2 or not.
It depends on who you ask. The AAP recently revised their stance on food allergies to state that delaying 1-2 years does not prevent allergies in children who are not at risk(no history of food allergies, asthma, eczema, or other skin issues). In children like Gabby who already have "developed" food allergies since birth it is critical that most of the top allergens be avoided, and delayed. It is also critical in children who have a family history of allergies.
There is also some speculation between Austism and gut issues, which can be correlated with the early start of solids.
Like Sarah, we have mostly done Baby Led Weaning starting at 6 months, but it wasn't really until this month(8 months) that she showed a genuine interest in solid foods.
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 6 - 5/7/2008 10:21:11 PM
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2. Another Q related to breastfeeding: A woman with adult-aged children told me that when her first was still not sleeping through the night at 3 months old that she started adding cereal into the routine at night and that way the baby slept longer.
Yeah, my MIL fed my husband a baby teaspoon of solids for his nighttime bottle when he was a month old and it apparently "knocked him right out". She said he was waking up and only taking a little bit of bottle, so she thought the cereal would make his stomach feel full.  Whatever lady.
My mom said she was pressured into feeding me solids at 3 months "because I was so big". Well, she was 21, a new mom and she caved, but I don't have any food allergies or anything like that. By the time my little brother came along, she told other people to shove it. 
Now, I will say in my MIL's defense that my husband grew up to be pretty healthy, and she was/is a very loving mother.
I did do the cereal thing at 4.5 months, (but moved quickly to fruits and veggies) 'cause he was nursing every 1.5-2 hours for weeks, and I just couldn't take it anymore. I had BFing advocates telling me to hang in there, cause he was just increasing my supply. Well, my supply had increased all it was gonna increase, and I went as far as I could go on breastmilk alone. I have no regrets about introducing solids at that point.
We all do the best we can, no matter what you feed your kid.
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