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mcp -> RE: US Airstrike in Somalia (5/5/2008 10:05:21 PM)
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MCP, isnt this dishonest? it was me Tracy that posted Scripture, I wanted to see how the word is used in the Bible. Just like one would look up the words, murder, kill, war in this thread.
Hello, Tracy. I don't know how this is dishonest. I had thought that in this and other threads, the liberal definitions had been parsed out. When some of these people on here call others a liberal, they mean this dictionary definition:
Liberal- Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.
You can use the sense of liberal (as illustrated in the Bible) for yourself if you want. That is fine; but that is not the definition of liberal that the others are using. It makes me think about Allen Colmes' book, with a chapter called Jesus was a liberal. That is not true. Jesus was liberal in some senses of the definition. Another confusing thing is that liberal is a comparative term. When it comes to rejecting original scriptures (a 'liberal' act), that is inappropriate in Jesus' view: "I am the way the truth and the Life". Modern liberal churches are defined usually by their rejection of biblical authority, traditional doctrine, or that Christ is Way.
However, when Pharisees tried to force the upholding (a conservative act) of traditional Jewish laws they had created or added to G-d's law , Jesus took a liberal stance (implying there were higher principles than not lifting a hand too high on the Sabbath).
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I also posted the current dictionary version..
what do you think liberal means, are we all on one page with the meaning?
your definition is one definition, but we are not on the same page, because many here see Liberalism (political or spiritual doctrine senses) as a corruption of a good kind of liberal.
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I get so tired of liberal being thrown around, "well you can't be a Christian your liberal!
When the war comes, the real war, not the one we think G-D would have us to wage, the one between G-D and the enemy, I'm not gonna look for my liberal or conservative friends, I'm gonna look for the Christian.
You are right, if people say that first line, that isn't exactly fair; nor can they defend it scripturally; after all, they have to know more about you, and even then are not the final judge on salvation. Yes, it is true that Liberalism as an idealogy which supports abortion rights, among other things that may affront scripture, but that isn't a deal breaker if one is a Liberal, yet saved by grace.
But then, your view on people who believe that wars other than G-d's final war are unjustified, is not fair either; or demands proper reason or biblical justification. It is another subject unto itself, I know, but this OP indirectly has to do with what role a nation's government plays in foreign policy.
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