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youngartist -> Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 9:01:24 AM)

Hi guys, I have a list of songs for which I'm hoping you can help me obtain the copyright information:

You're Already Gonna Live Forever (Bishops)
I Believe (Gold City)
New Day Dawning (Whisnants)
Boundless Love (Cathedrals, others)
I Know The Plans I Have For You (LordSong)
My Answer Is Yes (BF&A)


Any help would be greatly appreciated!



tafkam -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 9:20:28 AM)

Go to www.musicservices.org ......they can take care of all the copyright logistics for you.....



smithtim -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 11:02:19 AM)

Music Services is great if the song you are looking for is held by one of the publishers they work with. however, if the song you need is with a different publisher then you are out of luck. You can visit the ASCAP, BMI, and SESAC websites and search for the songs you need. It depends on which group the songwriter belongs to. It will list which publisher conrolls the copyright.



AdamEdwards -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 11:07:38 AM)

But what if you're not sure who the songwriter is?



smithtim -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 11:09:31 AM)

Example: A search at ASCAP for I Believe returned 905 songs with I believe in the title. They are list by songwriter so you really need to know who wrote the song. They also list who has performed the song. You're Already Gonna Live Forever returned 0 results which means whoever wrote it does not belong to ASCAP.



danielmount -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 11:11:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: youngartist

Hi guys, I have a list of songs for which I'm hoping you can help me obtain the copyright information:

You're Already Gonna Live Forever (Bishops)
I Believe (Gold City)
New Day Dawning (Whisnants)
Boundless Love (Cathedrals, others)
I Know The Plans I Have For You (LordSong)
My Answer Is Yes (BF&A)


Any help would be greatly appreciated!


http://www.sesac.com/repertory/sRepertorySQL.asp
http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?mode=search
http://repertoire.bmi.com/startpage.asp



smithtim -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 11:15:45 AM)

If you have a CD of the song The songwriter and the publisher should be listed on the case somewhere as all mechanical licenses I have ever gotten require that. If you have a track to the song the songwriter should be listed on its case. If you don't have these then you have to dig some. Perhaps an e-mail to the contact person on the website of the group who does the song.



smithtim -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 11:18:27 AM)

Thanks for those links danielmount. I didn't even think to include them in my post. Seinor moment I guess.



AdamEdwards -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 11:25:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: smithtim

If you have a CD of the song The songwriter and the publisher should be listed on the case somewhere as all mechanical licenses I have ever gotten require that. If you have a track to the song the songwriter should be listed on its case. If you don't have these then you have to dig some. Perhaps an e-mail to the contact person on the website of the group who does the song.

I guess I'll have to shoot out some emails. I downloaded a lot of my music (legally!), so there's no information to be found. I'm needing to find songwriters for about half a dozen songs right now.



youngartist -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 11:31:56 AM)

Thanks for the links guys! I had "I Believe" on a tape somewhere but I don't know where the cover is by now. And Adam's right - if you download the music (legally) there still is no information on songwriters.


I was hoping someone had a Gold City cd with "I Believe" on it laying around that could list the liners. Did Sue C. Smith write it? I have the info I need on "New Day Dawning" now, but none of the others.



heather84 -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 1:38:11 PM)

From my personal experience with this:
If your wanting it for recording purposes and your wanting to use the exact track then you need to find out who owns the copy write to the particular song.
I had to do that on my album. I'm doing one of Lauren Talley's songs and had to go to Crossroads and get permission to use that because they owned the copy write to it. Also keep in mind that to lease a song/track for recording can be up to $400 per song.



meems1 -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 1:38:34 PM)

I think I can at least help you with New Day Dawning.
Paragon Music Corp
c/o New Spring Publishing
741 Cool SPrings Blvd
Franklin, TN 37067
This is where we paid our royalties to the writer. Also we leased the track directly from the Whisnants for a 100.00 fee.



Seaton -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 1:45:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: youngartist

Thanks for the links guys! I had "I Believe" on a tape somewhere but I don't know where the cover is by now. And Adam's right - if you download the music (legally) there still is no information on songwriters.


I was hoping someone had a Gold City cd with "I Believe" on it laying around that could list the liners. Did Sue C. Smith write it? I have the info I need on "New Day Dawning" now, but none of the others.


Mark Mathes wrote "I Believe". It was through BMI on Lonesome Bend Publishing.



youngartist -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 2:25:10 PM)

Thanks guys, that's 2 down!


Anybody own "Stories" by the Bishops with "You're Already Gonna Live Forever" on it?
How about the classic "His Love" by the Cathedrals and others? That one's not in P.D. is it?



TQ_Fan_4_Life -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 2:28:33 PM)

if you download them illegally it sure wont give the info. LOL



AdamEdwards -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 3:00:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: youngartist

Thanks guys, that's 2 down!


Anybody own "Stories" by the Bishops with "You're Already Gonna Live Forever" on it?
How about the classic "His Love" by the Cathedrals and others? That one's not in P.D. is it?

I'm pretty sure that "Boundless Love" was written by Dianne Wilkinson (sp?).



youngartist -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 4:32:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TQ_Fan_4_Life

if you download them illegally it sure wont give the info. LOL



You would know from experience? [:D]



youngartist -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 4:51:09 PM)

Thanks for the tip Adam! Found the info on Boundless Love at http://repertoire.bmi.com/startpage.asp

BOUNDLESS LOVE BMI Work #143479

WILKINSON DIANNE B BMI 52471790

Publishers
HOMEWARD BOUND MUSIC BMI 69681629



youngartist -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 4:53:42 PM)

and from that same site here's "My Answer Is Yes"

MY ANSWER IS YES BMI Work #6549272

LOWRY BEVERLY D BMI 186383830
PECK REBECCA BMI 232430314

Publishers
CHRISTIAN TAYLOR MUSIC BMI 231265009
THOMAS PECK MUSIC BMI 236897914



L5FanLady -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 5:00:23 PM)

Not to hi-jack your thread, youngartist, but I just have a little question for anyone who knows....

The song "I've Been Changed" by Vep Ellis ("I've been changed I'm new born now my life has been rearranged....") is it public domain?



youngartist -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 5:03:39 PM)

No problem, Tina, anyone can feel free to ask song/copyright questions here.


I found out that Patti Hawkins wrote "I Know The Plans" but I don't have publishing info yet. Any additional info is welcome!

I found all the others this afternoon. Thanks.



Seaton -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 5:31:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: youngartist

Thanks guys, that's 2 down!


Anybody own "Stories" by the Bishops with "You're Already Gonna Live Forever" on it?
How about the classic "His Love" by the Cathedrals and others? That one's not in P.D. is it?


Songwriter: Mark Bishop
Publisher: Centergy Music/Possum Run Music/BMI



Seaton -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 5:33:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: youngartist

No problem, Tina, anyone can feel free to ask song/copyright questions here.


I found out that Patti Hawkins wrote "I Know The Plans" but I don't have publishing info yet. Any additional info is welcome!

I found all the others this afternoon. Thanks.


Publisher: Willow Branch Publishing/BMI (admin. by Gaither Copyright Management)



TQ_Fan_4_Life -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 6:09:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: youngartist

quote:

ORIGINAL: TQ_Fan_4_Life

if you download them illegally it sure wont give the info. LOL



You would know from experience? [:D]


I used to use limewire religiously till got a major virus. but to be honest, is hard to find SG on there. (((the use was about 6 years ago or so. both in a Kazaa. never agin. love my laptop too much to have it get sick. softly pats laptop and scratches it. [:D]



danielmount -> RE: Need Copyright Info - please (5/1/2008 9:03:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: L5FanLady

Not to hi-jack your thread, youngartist, but I just have a little question for anyone who knows....

The song "I've Been Changed" by Vep Ellis ("I've been changed I'm new born now my life has been rearranged....") is it public domain?


Sorry, but no--it's too recent.

1923 is the big date--everything published in and before 1922 is in the public domain. So C. Austin Miles' "In the Garden" is PD (1919), but Give the World a Smile just missed (1927).

It used to be things would roll into the public domain on a yearly basis, but now with all the retroactive laws just passed in the last few years, I think it's life of author+75 for anything 1923-on (unless it was published 1923-1977 and was not renewed, which is the case for a very, very few works.)



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