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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/4/2008 6:03:36 PM
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StephK
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A crockpot can make soup cooking a cooler job.
I do need to dig it out of the back of the cabinet. I have limited counter space so I rarely use it.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/4/2008 6:09:16 PM
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The thing is if you have a child or relative with autism or schizophrenia the first place to start is making dietary changes so that if there is a problem food then behavior changes can be made fairly painlessly. The problem today is that people automatically think of reaching for some kind of medication first.
For autism, there is no medication, but you should do behavioral interventions and educational interventions first. And, if there is a food the child is allergic too, then take it out of the diet. The problem is though is that some parents tend to think the GFCF diet tends to be a "magic cure."
For schizophrenia, if there needs to be dietary change, then so be it. But it should not replace medication, because schizophrenia is a real, chronic illness that does need to be treated medically. Diet doesn't fix everything.
There is no one size fits all for any of these conditions.
Your sister in Christ Jesus,
Jessica
I'm not saying to forgo medication if it is needed but simply stating that people need to look at the possibility of a dietary issue *first*. GFCF diets aren't impossible to live on and if it helps with the behaviors then less medication would be needed.
I have worked with both ebd kids and schizophrenics and the kids whose parents were diligent with diet tended to do better than those who weren't and giving them the junk foods. Many of the schizophrenics I worked with also did better overall with some dietary changes. Good nutrition is still the key to building up and repairing the body when something isn't working right. Where do you think the body pulls the nutrients from to repair and rebuild?
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/4/2008 6:11:42 PM
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The thing is if you have a child or relative with autism or schizophrenia the first place to start is making dietary changes so that if there is a problem food then behavior changes can be made fairly painlessly. The problem today is that people automatically think of reaching for some kind of medication first.
For autism, there is no medication, but you should do behavioral interventions and educational interventions first. And, if there is a food the child is allergic too, then take it out of the diet. The problem is though is that some parents tend to think the GFCF diet tends to be a "magic cure."
For schizophrenia, if there needs to be dietary change, then so be it. But it should not replace medication, because schizophrenia is a real, chronic illness that does need to be treated medically. Diet doesn't fix everything.
There is no one size fits all for any of these conditions.
Your sister in Christ Jesus,
Jessica
No one is saying there is a one size fits all, but this thread is SUPPORT for those choosing to eat clean, whole foods and the diet choices those people make. We are doing what we feel is best for our families. If you would like to debate our choices then please start another thread.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/4/2008 6:17:33 PM
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Mental health link to diet change
Chipping Away at Schizophrenia
William Eaton remembers that the letter came seemingly out of the blue. It was 1986, and Eaton—who now serves as chair of the Department of Mental Health—was known for his research on the epidemiology of schizophrenia. The letter was from Curtis Dohan, a Philadelphia internist who specialized in celiac disease, a rare autoimmune disorder that renders individuals intolerant to gluten, the proteins found in wheat and other cereals.
“Celiac disease is relatively straightforward to treat—you just remove all sources of gluten from the patient’s diet,” says Eaton, PhD. “What Dr. Dohan noticed was that among his patients who also had schizophrenia, the change in diet seemed to cure that, too.” Dohan’s letter wondered if there was some link between the diseases......
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/4/2008 7:13:46 PM
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Good nutrition is still the key to building up and repairing the body when something isn't working right. Where do you think the body pulls the nutrients from to repair and rebuild?
These principles work with all people, diseased or not. I've been amazed at the behavior changes and physical healing a wholefoods diet has made in myself, and have heard unbelievable stories about the difference it makes in children's behavior. There is a lot that can be helped with a healthy diet: Everything from dry skin & bad breath to getting off medications for many diseases.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/4/2008 11:14:50 PM
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The thing is if you have a child or relative with autism or schizophrenia the first place to start is making dietary changes so that if there is a problem food then behavior changes can be made fairly painlessly. The problem today is that people automatically think of reaching for some kind of medication first.
For autism, there is no medication, but you should do behavioral interventions and educational interventions first. And, if there is a food the child is allergic too, then take it out of the diet. The problem is though is that some parents tend to think the GFCF diet tends to be a "magic cure."
For schizophrenia, if there needs to be dietary change, then so be it. But it should not replace medication, because schizophrenia is a real, chronic illness that does need to be treated medically. Diet doesn't fix everything.
There is no one size fits all for any of these conditions.
Your sister in Christ Jesus,
Jessica
I'm not saying to forgo medication if it is needed but simply stating that people need to look at the possibility of a dietary issue *first*. GFCF diets aren't impossible to live on and if it helps with the behaviors then less medication would be needed.
I have worked with both ebd kids and schizophrenics and the kids whose parents were diligent with diet tended to do better than those who weren't and giving them the junk foods. Many of the schizophrenics I worked with also did better overall with some dietary changes. Good nutrition is still the key to building up and repairing the body when something isn't working right. Where do you think the body pulls the nutrients from to repair and rebuild?
Yes, if you are giving people junk food, of course you will behave worse.Maybe I should've watched my choice of words. I believe diet can help things to improve, but I don't think it is a cure all. But it can help a person drastically improve though.
Your sister in Christ Jesus,
Jessica
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/4/2008 11:19:33 PM
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The thing is if you have a child or relative with autism or schizophrenia the first place to start is making dietary changes so that if there is a problem food then behavior changes can be made fairly painlessly. The problem today is that people automatically think of reaching for some kind of medication first.
For autism, there is no medication, but you should do behavioral interventions and educational interventions first. And, if there is a food the child is allergic too, then take it out of the diet. The problem is though is that some parents tend to think the GFCF diet tends to be a "magic cure."
For schizophrenia, if there needs to be dietary change, then so be it. But it should not replace medication, because schizophrenia is a real, chronic illness that does need to be treated medically. Diet doesn't fix everything.
There is no one size fits all for any of these conditions.
Your sister in Christ Jesus,
Jessica
No one is saying there is a one size fits all, but this thread is SUPPORT for those choosing to eat clean, whole foods and the diet choices those people make. We are doing what we feel is best for our families. If you would like to debate our choices then please start another thread.
I am not going to debate because I fully agree. I was just pointing out to be careful of claims for cure, when it just may not be, especially for those two serious conditions. But I am not a person who eats junk food. I actually buy mostly organic, especially for animal products like meat and dairy. Can you believe what they feed the factory raised cows? Cow chow with antibiotics and animal fat! Yuck 
And I am also against dangerous preservatives as well. Hence why I buy all the organic food I can.
Your sister in Christ Jesus,
Jessica
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/5/2008 8:56:56 AM
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StephK
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Good nutrition is still the key to building up and repairing the body when something isn't working right. Where do you think the body pulls the nutrients from to repair and rebuild?
These principles work with all people, diseased or not. I've been amazed at the behavior changes and physical healing a wholefoods diet has made in myself, and have heard unbelievable stories about the difference it makes in children's behavior. There is a lot that can be helped with a healthy diet: Everything from dry skin & bad breath to getting off medications for many diseases.
I've taken several college level nutrition courses and worked with two PhD dietitians and there are many specific diets for various illnesses. They are still on the wrong one for diabetics though but do seem to be gradually coming around on that. I know when I am not careful my PCOS symptoms flare up in no time. When I am careful I feel great.
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Communism "IS" socialism....
"How do you tell a Socialist:- It's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an Anti-Socialist someone who understands Marx and Lenin" -Ronald Reagan
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/5/2008 9:05:08 AM
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StephK
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The thing is if you have a child or relative with autism or schizophrenia the first place to start is making dietary changes so that if there is a problem food then behavior changes can be made fairly painlessly. The problem today is that people automatically think of reaching for some kind of medication first.
For autism, there is no medication, but you should do behavioral interventions and educational interventions first. And, if there is a food the child is allergic too, then take it out of the diet. The problem is though is that some parents tend to think the GFCF diet tends to be a "magic cure."
For schizophrenia, if there needs to be dietary change, then so be it. But it should not replace medication, because schizophrenia is a real, chronic illness that does need to be treated medically. Diet doesn't fix everything.
There is no one size fits all for any of these conditions.
Your sister in Christ Jesus,
Jessica
I'm not saying to forgo medication if it is needed but simply stating that people need to look at the possibility of a dietary issue *first*. GFCF diets aren't impossible to live on and if it helps with the behaviors then less medication would be needed.
I have worked with both ebd kids and schizophrenics and the kids whose parents were diligent with diet tended to do better than those who weren't and giving them the junk foods. Many of the schizophrenics I worked with also did better overall with some dietary changes. Good nutrition is still the key to building up and repairing the body when something isn't working right. Where do you think the body pulls the nutrients from to repair and rebuild?
Yes, if you are giving people junk food, of course you will behave worse.Maybe I should've watched my choice of words. I believe diet can help things to improve, but I don't think it is a cure all. But it can help a person drastically improve though.
Your sister in Christ Jesus,
Jessica
I consider the typical American diet junk food just to clarify things.  The truth is that the food itself has been drastically changed over the last 100 years. What passes legally for food today is a joke . Diet could be a cure all for many illnesses but it takes 100% commitment and diligence to comply which the majority of people don't want to do. It takes a lot more work work and money. Not to mention that the pharmaceutical companies fund much of the research being done today. 
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Communism "IS" socialism....
"How do you tell a Socialist:- It's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an Anti-Socialist someone who understands Marx and Lenin" -Ronald Reagan
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