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kisstheson -> Hitting God between the eyes... (5/14/2008 1:52:16 AM)

In light of the gospels, the letters of Paul, Peter, James and John etc is it right to get mad at God, express your anger and give him a piece of your mind? I read many comments on different christian forums saying that God doesn't mind when we get angry with him. In fact they seem to encourage fellow believers that this is part of having a relationship with him.

here's an exsample: I have a friend who had a slew of red lights on the way to church and then she got mad at God and told him it was his fault she was late for church.

In the long run does expressing your anger towards God help you to mature spiritaully? Does God mind us giving him a good "what for?"



Walker311 -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/14/2008 6:53:07 AM)

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In the long run does expressing your anger towards God help you to mature spiritaully?


You learn absolutely nothing by getting mad at God. Anger clouds your mind and does not enhance your relationship with Him.

Giving God a piece of your mind about bad service at a restaurant is one thing but getting directly mad at Him for making us dependent on food is a waste of time. In fact, anger with God about anything is foolish.

God can handle our anger with Him, but it will not lead to spiritual maturity.

Like a child, you get angry because you don't get your way. God always gets His way and His way is always best.



DustyLady -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/14/2008 6:54:35 AM)

It seems to me that getting angry with God shows that we're not trusting Him to take care of us. Seems like a lack of faith on our part.

Dusty



URForgiven -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/14/2008 8:45:23 AM)

I have actually witnessed the suffering of an individual for years, because they would not admit to themselves that they were angry with God. Because, well you know, we are not 'supposed to be'. But they were, they had lost a child and they were angry with God about it.

Finally, when they admitted their anger, God was able to work through it with them...and they found peace.

If you are angry with God...you are angry with God. Are you going to pretend you are not? Is he going to accept your act, or your heart? As if God will buy the lie and not the truth.

I am sure that God can take it. Go ahead, let Him have it. Give Him your best shot. It's not like you are going to surprise Him ya know.

Peace



earthless -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/14/2008 8:47:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kisstheson

In light of the gospels, the letters of Paul, Peter, James and John etc is it right to get mad at God, express your anger and give him a piece of your mind? I read many comments on different christian forums saying that God doesn't mind when we get angry with him. In fact they seem to encourage fellow believers that this is part of having a relationship with him.

here's an exsample: I have a friend who had a slew of red lights on the way to church and then she got mad at God and told him it was his fault she was late for church.

In the long run does expressing your anger towards God help you to mature spiritaully? Does God mind us giving him a good "what for?"


That actually sounds pretty immature to me.



SonInMe1 -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/14/2008 9:49:54 AM)

If lights makes someone late for church, I suggest setting their alarm 5 MINUTES earlier. People can't blame God for their lack of planning.

I don't think you will lose your salvation if you get mad at God. At times we all do stupid things, don't trust God the way we should, and act toward God in immature and dumb ways.

Its not a good thing but I think God does understand we are not perfect.



crh737 -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/14/2008 12:02:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kisstheson
In the long run does expressing your anger towards God help you to mature spiritaully? Does God mind us giving him a good "what for?"


I disagree with the others about anger towards God. In light of your example I agree that is pettiness and need to get a life.

Real anger towards God should be expressed with God alone. If one was angry with a spouse, sibling, or friend they would try to resolve the issue.

In any relationship you want to work it out to continue to grow in the relationship.

I had anger with God at one point and I expressed it to Him, in which He gave me the knowledge to understand. With that knowledge came my repentance of learning my anger was with the wrong person (so to speak).
But it had given me a chance to air my concern and trust in Him and He did not angrily responded, He gently nudged me into the truth of it.

With that came growth.....

Just my 2 cents
CRH

ps: the best place to get angry is in the woods, that way only the squirrels will think you are nuts, lol [:D]



LCannon -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/14/2008 12:20:38 PM)

There's little shame in disappointment for God's provision however with our disappointment(or excuse)comes added further responsibility for personal growth. Growth without that vulnerability brings bitterness and nobody wants to listen to a whiner including the Holy Spirit.



YZGUY -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/14/2008 1:02:24 PM)

Who are we to be angry at God? To question God for his actions or things that occur in this life? Anger at God is simply pride. He did not do "it" the way we wanted. Some have even gone as far as "forgiving God" as if He has sinned. Sharing our feelings with God is very important, even if it is anger - but there should be confession of pride shortly afterward. I believe he wants us to share our thoughts, feelings, etc - sinful or righteous. But again, is it OK to be angry at God? I'd say "no," it is sinful - & I've been angry at God, too. Praise God for his grace & forgiveness.



rcjames -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/14/2008 5:17:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kisstheson
here's an exsample: I have a friend who had a slew of red lights on the way to church and then she got mad at God and told him it was his fault she was late for church.


Maybe God was slowing her down to miss a terrible accident? Anyway I think that folks who espress their flustrations by vocalizing anger towards God just need to get a live. (you know like an eternal life).

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In the long run does expressing your anger towards God help you to mature spiritaully? Does God mind us giving him a good "what for?"


How in the world could getting peeved at our creator, the One who saved us from sin and leads us into the Fruits of the Spirit (you know like; love, joy, peace, patience, etc.) be anything but outright rebellion and sin?

Thnsks
RC



siapa -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/14/2008 5:51:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kisstheson

here's an exsample: I have a friend who had a slew of red lights on the way to church and then she got mad at God and told him it was his fault she was late for church.



Late for church...? BIG DEAL!!! It's better than not coming at all. Being upset with God, sometimes I do that too (unintentionally). Then, I pray and ask for HIS forgiveness...God excuse our sins (even when we get mad at HIM), but it shows our being immature as a believer alright...



siapa -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/14/2008 6:00:20 PM)

To tell the truth....before I was born again Christian, I was FAR WORSE than your friend, KissThe Son! Believe me, I even calling HIM names and all, not satisfied being born like this and that, etc...but upon Jesus Christ's mercy ...HE still gives me the chance to repent!!! Oh, how wonderful our God is, amen!!!



kisstheson -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/15/2008 12:12:09 AM)

I love all these replies. You guys have great insight. Very refreshing.



bford64 -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/15/2008 2:04:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kisstheson

here's an exsample: I have a friend who had a slew of red lights on the way to church and then she got mad at God and told him it was his fault she was late for church.



It seems to me that God was trying to teach your friend a lesson in patience and they missed it entirely. Or as another person responded, could have been to miss an accident. In either case it seems petty that God would be the one to blame. Maybe a closer examination of the heart is in store?



SonInMe1 -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/15/2008 8:09:22 AM)

I think if we had a Job thing going on, we might shake our fists at God some.

WAIT!!! Before you reply just think....how many times in your life have you said, " Oh I would never do that," and find yourself doing...just that.

I would consider getting mad at God foolishness, but...maybe I haven't been in a situation where I could be mad at God.



conrack50 -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/15/2008 9:11:11 AM)

If we are angry at God, he knows it before it comes out of our mouths.
I have written letters to God telling him about my anger and felt so much better to get it off my chest.
He is our Heavenly Father, he knows we w3ill get angry. He wants to hear it so we can let him know what's bothering us.If we stay quiet and still long enough, we can hear his replies.



Liveloved -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/15/2008 9:18:16 AM)

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That actually sounds pretty immature to me.


Hey, earthless, I agree. It does sound pretty immature. But ya know, that's where alot of people are---especially in their spiritual lives. Paul saw it in his day too.

I think it is important to be truthful with God---expressing what's really going on inside of us IS His business and He wants us to talk it out with Him. But growth is what LIVE things do. So if we are His and living in relationship to Him, we will grow.

Growing up is definitely a God thing. We need to see more of it. I know it is what I want going on in me![:)]



Kat_D -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/15/2008 9:36:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: crh737

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ORIGINAL: kisstheson
In the long run does expressing your anger towards God help you to mature spiritaully? Does God mind us giving him a good "what for?"


I disagree with the others about anger towards God. In light of your example I agree that is pettiness and need to get a life.

Real anger towards God should be expressed with God alone.


The big difference is that people are imperfect and are capable of doing wrong and sinning against us...God is not. Everything He does is perfect and everything He allows in our lives is used to perfect us and make us more like Him.

To me, much of this is about the new movement that wants to bring God down to our level...to debase and lower who He really is...to degrade Him and make Him more like us in every way. When this happens, the next step is obviously to treat Him like we do other humans instead of treating Him like God.

We are commanded by the Word to fear God which means we are to have an awesome respect for Him and who He is. That does not include ranting and raving at Him for things He is not responsible for. If the truth be known, most of the things people get angry at Him for are over poor choices they themselves have made and they use God as their scapegoat.

Disclaimer: Because I know some will go there: I have no problem with crying out to God in our anguish and pain, but it should always be done with an attitude of reverence and respect; acknowledging that His ways are perfect no matter how we "feel" or how "disappointed" we are at our circumstances.



Walker311 -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/15/2008 11:33:05 AM)

The problem that I have with the "it is ok to get angry with God" attitude is the danger in it.

People make claims that they aired out their angst with God Almighty... gave Him a piece of their minds, and now they are big buds.

This leads people to the mistaken belief that they can continue doing this. A kind of... lets clear the air thing because I am afterall, human and imperfect, and you are God... the merciful and forgiving. And they do this sort of thing over and over.

He ain't necessarily a player!

This is the same God who flooded the earth. He made His chosen people to suffer slavery and traverse the desert for 40 years. Nuked Sodom and Gomorrah. The same God who sent His son to die.

He does what He will and though He undertands our anger, He will tolerate it for only so long.



doinkdom -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/15/2008 3:59:27 PM)

We get angry usually when we don't get our way or something happens to block our will. That's sinful anger.

God is not sinful, God is good - all He does for us is for our growth to be more like Him, for our sanctification and for His glory.

If we have righteous anger, then it is directed at atrocities, at the evil in this world, etc. and drives us to action, but never at God who is perfect in righteousness, perfect in holiness, perfect in Himself.

God's ways are not our ways - He is pure, holy and perfect and we are not. We are spoiled children (akin to stoopid sheep[;)]) walking around with our hands out, expecting to be able to treat our Lord and Savior, the King of the Universe from a place of an angry consumer, unhappy with our choices.

Me? Angry with God? I am humbled that He is never angry with me...



kisstheson -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/15/2008 5:29:25 PM)

"Me? Angry with God? I am humbled that He is never angry with me... "

You guys have given great answers. However I am surprised at how many christians don't see things the ay you do.



DustyLady -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/15/2008 6:57:44 PM)

For years now, I have worked hard at not getting angry with anyone. Frustrated, irritated, insulted, yes. But, for me, anger is a very dangerous emotion. When I get angry, I'm not always in control of what I say or what I do, and I end up hurting someone as a result.

For instance, in the eight years that I have known my husband -- and in the 4 1/2 years we have been married -- I have never been angry with him. Oh, I get irritated when he flips the tv station just as I'm getting involved in a program. Or when we disagree on a point of theology -- which happens quite often.

Anger is something that is within me, caused by my own experiences and my own perceptions and viewpoints. No one makes me angry but myself. I'm the only one that can change that (with God's help, of course), by how I react to what others do. I can't do a lot to change other people, but I can change myself and how what they do affects me.

Dusty



crh737 -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/15/2008 6:59:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kat_D


perfect and everything He allows in our lives is used to perfect us and make us more like Him.

To me, much of this is about the new movement that wants to bring God down to our level...to debase and lower who He really is...to degrade Him and make Him more like us in every way. When this happens, the next step is obviously to treat Him like we do other humans instead of treating Him like God.


KatD~
In no way have I ever debased God or even tried to bring Him to my level. Nor have I think or treat Him like a lowly human.

Do not insinuate that I am part or believe the new age garbage that is out there.

My personal experience when I *was* angry with Him, He already knew I was angry and He did not give me anger back but gently rebuked me, showing me my error, that my anger was displaced.

CRH



growingseed -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/15/2008 8:47:51 PM)

If in fact you are truly angry at God, first, you gave you the light to know that he even exist, second, don't blame the source of every life since Adam and Eve on you not being able to deal with not being in control, third, if God is love and everything is for the best for us, do we return love with anger? My life as it is, isn't God's fault but planning, and me doing my own thing and blaming God for all my pitfalls. It will interesting to see if anyone when they get to heaven will stand before the throne and give God what for!!!!!.RIGHT.



armydude -> RE: Hitting God between the eyes... (5/15/2008 8:52:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kisstheson

In light of the gospels, the letters of Paul, Peter, James and John etc is it right to get mad at God, express your anger and give him a piece of your mind? I read many comments on different christian forums saying that God doesn't mind when we get angry with him. In fact they seem to encourage fellow believers that this is part of having a relationship with him.

here's an exsample: I have a friend who had a slew of red lights on the way to church and then she got mad at God and told him it was his fault she was late for church.

In the long run does expressing your anger towards God help you to mature spiritaully? Does God mind us giving him a good "what for?"
Isaiah 45:9 says it best. "Woe to him that striveth with his Maker..."


God is our creator. Blaming Him for our problems doesn't make sense. If you don't believe me, ask Adam how far he got blaming God for his sin.



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