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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 8:45:11 PM
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tafkam
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One of the quote on the news Saturday was from a Kennedy friend who said, "He's a fighter, and he wants so much to live". Well, so did Mary Jo. And I'm sure 40 million murdered unborn babies would have appreciated the chance as well. I do pray for his salvation, especially now that it appears his time to pay the piper.....
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 8:53:20 PM
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This is the second time this week that this forum has sunk to all new lows that I never before thought it would reach. Sadly, anyone who comes here lately I think is going to come away with all of their negative stereotypes about who Evangelical Christians are affirmed 100%. You guys really aren't helping yourselves out much.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 8:59:12 PM
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Thanks Abiyah, some just read what they want. No it is not judgemental, judging is not looking away from everything. Why would Jesus not say do not cast your pearls before swine. That would take a judgment call. [ quote]ORIGINAL: Covaan_Meshuga Perhaps you did not read post #13, where LightShineOn told how she feels about Kennedy's health and possible short future here. No? Because if you had, you would have known her intentions. [/quote]
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 9:18:22 PM
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This is the second time this week that this forum has sunk to all new lows that I never before thought it would reach. Sadly, anyone who comes here lately I think is going to come away with all of their negative stereotypes about who Evangelical Christians are affirmed 100%. You guys really aren't helping yourselves out much. Amen to that.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 9:42:53 PM
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lightshineon
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UMMMMmmm, hello? Do liberals do selective reading too? I just thought it was in the hearing, and understanding. quote:
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This is the second time this week that this forum has sunk to all new lows that I never before thought it would reach. Sadly, anyone who comes here lately I think is going to come away with all of their negative stereotypes about who Evangelical Christians are affirmed 100%. You guys really aren't helping yourselves out much. Amen to that.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 9:43:49 PM
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Covaan_Meshuga
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Well, good for all of us! We think independently, like good Americans ought to. Disagreement doesn't mean you're right and we're wrong. Do you have the same pity for Mary Jo? For her family-members? For the dead children? I have a personal Christian friend who loves Kennedy, because he, in his role of a politician, did something that was personally helpful for her family, and it would not have happened without his personal intervention. For that reason, she chooses to ignore his crimes against humanity. Okay. I have never come down on her for that; we just don't talk about it. If this thread is so personally disgusting to you, you have a choice not to read or respond to it, just as we remain friends but don't talk about Kennedy. Number One: No one is calling for his death. Number Two: No one is desiring to send him to hell. Number Three: No one has said they do not desire his salvation.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 9:45:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: mapachito13 So then it's OK to call him evil or a vile, disgusting human being. Isn't that a judgement? His actions judge him... A murderer is a murderer because of what he does, not because someone is pointing out that murder is wrong... quote:
Are we allowed to judge other people's state of their soul? Speaking to a person's actions is not judging their soul... quote:
How do we know what God thinks of Mr. Kennedy? What does God think if men who leaves a woman to drown to death, or is a champion for the cause of murdering unborn children? quote:
Have we become omnicient like God? Certainly not, but we do have his word to go by and it's not silent on such matters... quote:
One thing I do hope is that God IS merciful towards him. Because that is what I would wish to be "done unto me". We reap what we sow... John
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 9:51:41 PM
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John, I am so with you, on him being vile, but there is "amazing grace" too. Let us hope he recieves it, before it is to late.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 9:52:19 PM
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ORIGINAL: henny This is the second time this week that this forum has sunk to all new lows that I never before thought it would reach. Actually when folks use the word of God to support the likes of Ted Kennedy it can't get any lower... quote:
Sadly, anyone who comes here lately I think is going to come away with all of their negative stereotypes about who Evangelical Christians are affirmed 100%. Of course... One of their folks who supports the murder of unborn children isn't getting treated like he's some great guy with so much love for his fellow man... quote:
You guys really aren't helping yourselves out much. Pretending the likes of Mr. Kennedy is anything other than what he is not helping anyone... John
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 9:58:14 PM
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ORIGINAL: lightshineon John, I am so with you, on him being vile, but there is "amazing grace" too. Let us hope he recieves it, before it is to late. If God chooses to save Mr. Kennedy that is His choice and He would be just in doing so... Doesn't change what the man has made himself into with his actions for nothing more than to remain in power. John
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 10:01:06 PM
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ORIGINAL: SovereignIsHe What is tragic about a man who has supported the mass murder of over 40,000,000 million unborn children having brain cancer? Never mind he's a well known drunkard, womanizer and walked away from killing Mary Jo Kopechne with less than a slap on the wrist... Why would anyone pray for such a man to get well so he can continue to do evil. People are pleased when terrorist are taken out because they are evil yet they haven't done half the evil Mr. Kennedy is responsible for... We have men and women all over the world blowing people up for the death of 3,000 on 9/11 and some are sadden by someone who in reality is worse than Bin Laden having a malignant brain tumor? Why? More unborn children are murdered each day than died on 9/11 and Mr. Kennedy is responsible for them as much as Bin Laden is for 9/11... Is anyone praying that Bin Laden get well? John You certainly have a point. Food for thought.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 10:04:13 PM
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Pretending the likes of Mr. Kennedy is anything other than what he is not helping anyone... John [/quote] Now this is where we can agree, John it almost takes me not just vomiting, when people like Senator Byrd, boohoos and, and everyone is acting like, a great, good, holy man is striken. My brother called and said " wasn't that sad, I cried" I said "its sad that Kennedy is not saved". My brother said " we Catholics believe we can pray people out of pergatory", my brother is not Catholic he is Schizophrenic seriously, a real mental illness for him. Someone cry for the children, as you are weeping for Senator Kennedy, and pray for the unborn as well as you pray for senator Kennedy.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 10:22:06 PM
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I have to take a break from these Crosswalk forums for a while. Never before have I seen such an ugly display of hatred, judgmentalism, and political bile on this site over the recent news that Senator Kennedy, a human being, is going to die in the near-future over an inoperable brain tumor. Even a Crosswalk moderator expressed a bit of glee at hearing the news, which I personally found disgusting. quote:
I confess that when I heard of it, at first I did a little rejoicing. But then I realized that if/when he dies, he'll probably spend an eternity in hell. I'll be heading over to another Christian website for a while, where hopefully--one's politics notwithstanding--I can browse around without feeling repelled by the vulgar sentiments reflected there. May God bless you.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 10:25:20 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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ORIGINAL: lightshineon Pretending the likes of Mr. Kennedy is anything other than what he is not helping anyone... John Now this is where we can agree, John it almost takes me not just vomiting, when people like Senator Byrd, boohoos and, and everyone is acting like, a great, good, holy man is striken. My brother called and said " wasn't that sad, I cried" I said "its sad that Kennedy is not saved". My brother said " we Catholics believe we can pray people out of pergatory", my brother is not Catholic he is Schizophrenic seriously, a real mental illness for him. Someone cry for the children, as you are weeping for Senator Kennedy, and pray for the unborn as well as you pray for senator Kennedy. I believe a lot of people are in a serious state of denial... I know that some folks support the things that Mr. Kennedy does so they of course they are going to take to task those who point out his evil, but on what ground are they standing on? Christians are supposed to act as if everyone is a child of the king regardless of their clear intent and actions? It would seem some of these folks would cry foul if you questioned why a pedophile wasn't allowed to lead the youth group... Can't judge.. Just pretend all is well... Problem is that is the problem, we pretend that is doesn’t matter that people like Ted Kennedy supports what he does... Proverbs 16:12 It is an abomination to kings to commit wickedness: for the throne is established by righteousness. Proverbs 5:22 The wicked man is doomed by his own sins; they are ropes that catch and hold him. Proverbs 10:20 The tongue of the just is as choice silver: the heart of the wicked is little worth. Proverbs 11:5 The righteousness of the perfect shall direct his way: but the wicked shall fall by his own wickedness. Proverbs 18:5 To respect the person of the wicked is not good, Nor to turn aside the righteous in judgment. Proverbs 28:4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them. Psalms 11:5 The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth. John Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 10:29:06 PM
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Even a Crosswalk moderator expressed a bit of glee at hearing the news, which I personally found disgusting. Believe it or not, we moderators are human, too. And there's no perfection requirement to become a moderator. Yes, I had some glee. BUT THEN I realized what that implied and realized it was wrong. I'm sorry that you missed that part of my post.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 10:29:37 PM
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ORIGINAL: todd_t I have to take a break from these Crosswalk forums for a while. Never before have I seen such an ugly display of hatred, judgmentalism, and political bile on this site over the recent news that Senator Kennedy, a human being, is going to die in the near-future over an inoperable brain tumor. That simply means you choose to overlook the display of hatred, judgmentalism, and political bile that Mr. Kennedy has shown his fellow man for decades... John
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 10:29:53 PM
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ORIGINAL: todd_t I have to take a break from these Crosswalk forums for a while. Never before have I seen such an ugly display of hatred, judgmentalism, and political bile on this site over the recent news that Senator Kennedy, a human being, is going to die in the near-future over an inoperable brain tumor. Even a Crosswalk moderator expressed a bit of glee at hearing the news, which I personally found disgusting. quote:
I confess that when I heard of it, at first I did a little rejoicing. But then I realized that if/when he dies, he'll probably spend an eternity in hell. I'll be heading over to another Christian website for a while, where hopefully--one's politics notwithstanding--I can browse around without feeling repelled by the vulgar sentiments reflected there. May God bless you. Please before you go, would your sentiments be the same for people discussing a lack of compassion for bin-ladens health woe's?
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 11:06:31 PM
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Even a Crosswalk moderator expressed a bit of glee at hearing the news, which I personally found disgusting. Believe it or not, we moderators are human, too. And there's no perfection requirement to become a moderator. Yes, I had some glee. BUT THEN I realized what that implied and realized it was wrong. I'm sorry that you missed that part of my post. Not feeling the love, baby. Glad I'm already a Christian 'cause nothing but a trainwreck here. Now I know where Jeremiah Wright's got a parallel universe.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 11:40:49 PM
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Uh calling Tricia "Baby" is just rude, so, Son, you need to get your mind right on many things too. Reading some of your post does not fill me with the Spirit either. Do not talk to women with disrespect. If you want o be in denial and worship Wright that is your BIG problem. quote:
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ORIGINAL: ta_mosquito quote:
Even a Crosswalk moderator expressed a bit of glee at hearing the news, which I personally found disgusting. Believe it or not, we moderators are human, too. And there's no perfection requirement to become a moderator. Yes, I had some glee. BUT THEN I realized what that implied and realized it was wrong. I'm sorry that you missed that part of my post. Not feeling the love, baby. Glad I'm already a Christian 'cause nothing but a trainwreck here. Now I know where Jeremiah Wright's got a parallel universe.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/21/2008 11:59:00 PM
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"Christians" such as these are the sole reason I stopped going to my last church, and will never return. Agree, same here. quote:
Sadly, anyone who comes here lately I think is going to come away with all of their negative stereotypes about who Evangelical Christians are affirmed 100%. Yup, that's been true for some time though. I can't even say what my son & hubby say about this site. Let's just say that for the "true believers" it's ok, but it's not really "winning anyone for the Lord." Waaaay to much vitriole, name calling and condemnation.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 12:11:29 AM
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Oh, okay, I guess we should just all join hands and sing Kum-By-Yah, as well as say that Ted Kennedy is a great man and awesome human being. If I tried that my tongue would snap off it's roller. The left is so quick to step to the man's defense....yet they ignore the repeated questions....do you feel the same empathy for Mary Jo Kopechne? Or the millions of children that were torn apart in their mother's wombs with Senator Kennedy's wholehearted support? I will restate, I feel the same way about Teddy as I would if I were to hear that Osama had cancer.......I hope tey make their peace with God, but I'm not torn up that it happened.....
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 12:15:20 AM
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ORIGINAL: relady Let's just say that for the "true believers" it's ok, but it's not really "winning anyone for the Lord." Waaaay to much vitriole, name calling and condemnation. Actually not enough... That is why people can come on to this site and attempt to support those things the Mr Kennedy did, such as abortion and the gay agenda using the Word of God... Anger isn't a sin, calling a murderer a murderer isn't a sin and speaking of condemnation in regards to one's part in the death of 40,000,000 innocent lives surely isn't sinful... The idea that Christian must always just take it and act as if there is nothing wrong is someone's idea of Christianty that is tainted... If winning folks over to the Lord means turning a blind eye to evil I think folks need to rethink things... John
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 12:22:01 AM
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Senators of all political persuasions have expressed their sympathy for Senator Kennedy. I find it disgusting and sad that some here would use this news story as an opportunity to slander the man. You simply have no class.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 12:33:56 AM
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ORIGINAL: wing2000 Senators of all political persuasions have expressed their sympathy for Senator Kennedy. As frank as I can be... So... My sympathy goes out to the victims... If they really cared about the man they rebuke him in hopes he's turn away from his evil ways... Of course thats unheard of and Christians must remain silent and let evil take its course... I say, No.... quote:
I find it disgusting and sad that some here would use this news story as an opportunity to slander the man. Slander? I won't bother to ask you to support your claim, since it's painfully clear you cannot... He doesn't support abortion? He didn't leave a woman to die to cover his own rear? He doesn't support the gay agenda? quote:
You simply have no class. Actually I have my priorities straight...I know it’s tough for some because there isn’t a 40,000,000 mountain of dead children to deal with, but it's just too hard for me to look over that mountain to have too much pity for a man who used that misery and evil to remain in a seat of power... He didn't just allow it, he championed it... Of course someone known to play the field is going to support abortion... It's a nice way of covering your tracks so to speak... John
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 12:35:59 AM
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Look John....the moderator already cleaned up this thread once...as it was started in the spirit of praying for the man. I have no issue if you want to start a thread on all the wrongs Sen Kennedy has done...be my guest. It's just tasteless to do it in this thread.
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