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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 4:03:26 PM
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Covaan_Meshuga
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Does anyone else ever get the feeling that some are on this thread but reading different words than the rest of us are?
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 4:21:37 PM
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KatMack
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Yup, and all statements to the contrary, one CAN NOT truly pray for another human while feeling some of the anger and nastiness in evidence on these boards. God will not hear those prayers and if he does....IMO they will go unanswered because the heart is not in a compassionate condition towards the one for whom they are praying.
I would LOVE, LOVE, LOVE to see the scriptural support for this.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 5:03:32 PM
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Covaan_Meshuga
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Thought this was interesting, Kat: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080322174300AAtkAqq
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Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
A tree's fruit is obvious; you have to look harder for the worm hole.
G-d has only one natural Son; EVERYONE else is adopted.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 6:38:10 PM
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dailyrenewed
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john i was just curious if you realize that you are a sinner just like ted kennedy and the only reason you know that abortion is wrong is because God has given you his Holy Spirit to tell you what is right and wrong? Your first thought should not be "he's finally getting what he deserves!" it should be a thought of compassion and sadness knowing that Mr. Kennedy will soon be in a Christ-less eternity. And also you should realize that God picked you to be one of His own. You could potentially be the same lost soul that Ted Kennedy is right now if you had not been saved by the grace of God. So let God pronouce judgment on Mr. Kennedy and do the only thing you can and should do for Mr. Kennedy - pray for his salvation. We all deserve judgment and the only reason we don't get it is because God chooses to save us.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 9:01:49 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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Nope... :) 3800 unborn children will be murdered today due in part to the fine statesmenship of Ted Kennedy...
Those 3800 unborn children also had a mother and a father who conceived them. So why put all the blame on Ted Kennedy?
I never said he was fully to blame...
John
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 9:07:57 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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john i was just curious if you realize that you are a sinner just like ted kennedy and the only reason you know that abortion is wrong is because God has given you his Holy Spirit to tell you what is right and wrong?
Yes I very much realize that apart from the grace of God that I could be as evil as evil can be...
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Your first thought should not be "he's finally getting what he deserves!" it should be a thought of compassion and sadness knowing that Mr. Kennedy will soon be in a Christ-less eternity.
I never said that nor wasn't my first thought... I will be honest and say I hope he doesn't get better so he continue on with his evil ways, just like I hope they never release the likes of Charles Manson back into public...
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So let God pronouce judgment on Mr. Kennedy and do the only thing you can and should do for Mr. Kennedy - pray for his salvation. We all deserve judgment and the only reason we don't get it is because God chooses to save us.
I prayed for the soul of the person that raped my children... So it was easy to pray for the soul of Mr. Kennedy... Actually my issue is far more with those folks who don't see anything wrong with Mr. Kennedy and believe we are losing a great man...
John
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 9:24:06 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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Yup, and all statements to the contrary, one CAN NOT truly pray for another human while feeling some of the anger and nastiness in evidence on these boards. God will not hear those prayers and if he does....IMO they will go unanswered because the heart is not in a compassionate condition towards the one for whom they are praying.
I recall from past discussions that you take no issue with abortion being legal so I will consider your calls for compassion with that in mind... I even recall you using the word of God to support your view…
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But I do pray for Sen. Kennedy because as flawed as he is (aren't we all?) I do believe he tries to do what he believes is the right thing.
He does whatever it takes to reamin in power and one of those things is supporting the right to murder unborn children...
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We may not all agree with what he thinks & does?
That's part of the problem since what he does is in direct conflict with God's word yet some who claim Christ find to fault with the man...
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And Mary Jo was, what, 40 years ago? Puhlease people! We're not supposed to be holding grudges either. Sheesh
The man walked away from murder... That's not about a grudge...You think God forgot? Or Mary Jo's family who have to see the man who left her for dead live and act as if nothing really happened...
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No wonder people don't want to be associated with Christians! Shame on us! 
Too funny...
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I think people fighting against abortion need to be conscious of the possibility that they themselves can so dehumanize the opponents in the abortion debate that they will ultimately end up becoming no different than those that they are criticizing when it comes to the issue of “compassion.” WOW, very well said!
Again no need to dehumanize people who murder unborn children, by their own actions they do it to themsleves...
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No, however, speaking of them with the vindictiveness exhibited on this forum certainly will affect the effectiveness of your prayers. In fact, if you truly feel as vindictive and nasty as your posts sound, I'd say don't bother. Pray for people you can pray for without such vitriole. Your prayer time would be put to better use, IMO.
Given the bible I can pray for God to crush His enemies and I believe that people who support the mass murder of unborn children fall into that category... You opinion hasn't in the past nor here aligns all that well with the word of God...
John
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 9:32:54 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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SovereignIsHe, this is just an honest question...so please don't take it as me trying to judge your intentions. But what do you hope to accomplish with this topic?
To be sure it's known that the last thing Mr. Kennedy was is a great statesmen and champion for anyone other than himself and I have a mountain of 40,000,000 murdered unborn children as evidence. Where's the campassion for them?
John
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 9:56:07 PM
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Holy puke. . .
My nextdoor neighbor supports abortion too but I didn't sneer when he was in the hospital. . .
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 9:59:09 PM
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Not everyone has to lie, and say he is a good man, but, can pray for his soul.
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Holy puke. . .
My nextdoor neighbor supports abortion too but I didn't sneer when he was in the hospital. . .
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 10:09:17 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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Holy puke. . .
My nextdoor neighbor supports abortion too but I didn't sneer when he was in the hospital. . .
If your neightbor was at school beating kids to death with a baseball bat and a cop put a bullet in his head I doubt anyone would have much in the way of campassion for him... Well... For the most part there really isn't all the much difference given what he/she supports...
John
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 10:23:05 PM
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This is why I don't go to this section because we as believers do not know how to answer each other with gentleness and respect toward one another.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/22/2008 11:27:07 PM
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1love1God1way
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Holy puke. . .
My nextdoor neighbor supports abortion too but I didn't sneer when he was in the hospital. . .
If your neightbor was at school beating kids to death with a baseball bat and a cop put a bullet in his head I doubt anyone would have much in the way of campassion for him... Well... For the most part there really isn't all the much difference given what he/she supports...
John
So I should show no compassion to those who support things I disagree with?
I don't like this flavor of Christianity.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/23/2008 12:11:10 AM
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SovereignIsHe
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So I should show no compassion to those who support things I disagree with?
I don't like this flavor of Christianity.
I beleive the matter in question is bigger than a simple disagreement...
John
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/23/2008 12:23:39 AM
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SIH: Who is praying for Kennedy to get well so he can continue to do evil? Specifically?
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/23/2008 12:28:12 AM
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If you hold anger in your toward your brother then you are guilty of murder in the eyes of God. These are the words of Christ and I implore my bothers and sisters in Christ to remeber this.
I am not a fan of Senator Kennedy. I think he's been guilty of reprehensible behaviour. However the thing that many are missing is that not one person here deserves to be prayed for. We are all vile and covered in filth in the eyes of God. This is why we needed the sacrifice of Christ at Calvary. Only through Him are we clean in the eyes of God.
I pray for the fallen Senator so that he is healed because I want him to come to Christ. I pray this in my heart of heart. I pray for this, not because he deserves it, but because he needs it. As we all do.
Go with God my brothers and sisters.
Shalom
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/23/2008 1:11:02 AM
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1love1God1way
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So I should show no compassion to those who support things I disagree with?
I don't like this flavor of Christianity.
I beleive the matter in question is bigger than a simple disagreement...
John
Okay. They support something that is sinful.
Thus, I should have no compassion on them.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/23/2008 1:17:21 AM
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tracydolls
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I pray Kennedy come to Jesus. What if he does before he dies?
He is still living? Right?
Death is guaranteed to all of us.
I had to look up his record to even really find out his record on abortions.
Terrible!
I remember Mary Jo, I was a wee child then? LOL. 1969?
I thought what a punk! That poor girl!
I'm GLAD he was never president. I remember that.
I also remember discussing the Kennedy Family with my co-worker at school, at the time of John Jr's death.
She was a real cool Irish woman, older, worked as library teacher in a school I was at.
She said they we're cursed. That always crosses my mind, when I hear name.
I don't know. Only G-D does.
As a Christian I have compassion for the whole family, and the babies that we're aborted.
I do know this verse:
Luk 13:1 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
Luk 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
Luk 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Luk 13:4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
Luk 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/23/2008 1:17:45 AM
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I saddens me greatly to see how many people hold such hatred for a man. Especially in a time like this.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/23/2008 1:23:40 AM
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John: Thank you for being courageous enough to post this very important thread. You have done a superb job of defending your correct position. There have been a lot of emotion led, unbiblical replies here. It baffles me that Christians can be so blind to the truth when it is presented quite plainly.
Ted Kennedy is an evil man. He is going to die soon in his sin and wickedness. Our most fervent prayer should not be for his healing, but for his salvation. Why would anyone make their primary prayer for a wicked man a prayer for him to live longer so he can propagate more evil, with virtually no calls for repentance and salvation? This is emotion-driven Christianity at its worst.
I pray for Mr. Kennedy, that the circumstances of imminent death help him repent of his wickedness and receive eternal life. I pray that God do the marvelous work of regeneration in Mr. Kennedy's heart, and give him the gift of faith that allows him to cease calling good evil and evil good. In the name of Jesus, Amen.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/23/2008 1:28:07 AM
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Who said anything about physical healing being a primary prayer?
I guess if that was the case, it would make your argument stronger. . .
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/23/2008 1:31:37 AM
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John: Thank you for being courageous enough to post this very important thread. You have done a superb job of defending your correct position. There have been a lot of emotion led, unbiblical replies here. It baffles me that Christians can be so blind to the truth when it is presented quite plainly.
Ted Kennedy is an evil man. He is going to die soon in his sin and wickedness. Our most fervent prayer should not be for his healing, but for his salvation. Why would anyone make their primary prayer for a wicked man a prayer for him to live longer so he can propagate more evil, with virtually no calls for repentance and salvation? This is emotion-driven Christianity at its worst.
I pray for Mr. Kennedy, that the circumstances of imminent death help him repent of his wickedness and receive eternal life. I pray that God do the marvelous work of regeneration in Mr. Kennedy's heart, and give him the gift of faith that allows him to cease calling good evil and evil good. In the name of Jesus, Amen.
One can pray that God will show mercy to Senator Kennedy in healing him AND pray for his salvation. Both would glorify God would they not? Again I say unto you that to hold anger in your heart toward your brother is to commit murder in the eyes of God.
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RE: Ted Kennedy diagnosed with malignant brain tumor... - 5/23/2008 1:34:26 AM
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Manimal: Same question to you as to Sovereign in post 117. Specifically, who is praying for Kennedy to "live longer so he can propagate more evil?"
Also, isn't it just a little presumptuous for you to say Kennedy will "die soon in his sin and wickedness?"
Sheesh.
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