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RE: Hiddenness and Arrogance - 6/12/2008 11:40:01 AM
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GrahamCracker
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Perhaps it's just me, but why does it seems that many of the individuals who have hidden names, e-mails, etc., or even nothing in their profile completed are the ones who are the most virulent, vocal, demeaning and arrogant in their replies or posting? It seems that the majority of the vehement (and often ugly) posts are written by those who have only an avatar (maybe)...
Wasn't sure where to put this but it seems to fall under an "ethics"-type category... 
My 2.5 cents-worth and an honest concern and question...
How about simple privacy? I allow some characteristics of my profile to be revealed but not all. People can email me anytime or send me PMs. But I haven't had a problem with harassment or unsolicited emails.
With regard to people being arrogant: how can you tell? You can't hear a person's tone of voice when in print nor can you see their facial expression. Sometimes facts are facts and sometimes we present merely our opinions. Since everyone has different experiences and levels of preparation for discussion, it's hard to tell why they are being so dogmatic about their views.
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RE: Hiddenness and Arrogance - 6/12/2008 12:12:44 PM
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doinkdom
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hey doc65,
I think I know what you mean.
There are these drive-by postings that are more like spiritual hand grenades dropped right in the middle of a thread or sometimes are even the beginning of one. They are more like rants than real postings.
And if you click on the name to find out something more about the poster before you smack 'em with your own post, since ya know...you could be wrong about them. 
There's nothing.....nada....not even a crumb of info as to where this person is actually coming from.
And yet...their posts exhibit a tone of being more than full of themselves.
So yeah...I get it.
But...whatcha gonna do?
Everyone should still be welcomed here.
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RE: Hiddenness and Arrogance - 6/12/2008 12:15:54 PM
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crankius
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Perhaps it's just me, but why does it seems that many of the individuals who have hidden names, e-mails, etc., or even nothing in their profile completed are the ones who are the most virulent, vocal, demeaning and arrogant in their replies or posting? It seems that the majority of the vehement (and often ugly) posts are written by those who have only an avatar (maybe)...
I'm not sure it always works this way. There are plenty of posters with a full profile who are vocal and sometimes vehement.
I don't list my info in my profile because my husband prefers for me to keep my info private. People may have lots of reasons for keeping their information private.
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RE: Hiddenness and Arrogance - 6/12/2008 12:19:57 PM
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CoeurdeLeon
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hey doc65,
I think I know what you mean.
There are these drive-by postings that are more like spiritual hand grenades dropped right in the middle of a thread or sometimes are even the beginning of one. They are more like rants than real postings.
And if you click on the name to find out something more about the poster before you smack 'em with your own post, since ya know...you could be wrong about them.
There's nothing.....nada....not even a crumb of info as to where this person is actually coming from.
And yet...their posts exhibit a tone of being more than full of themselves.
So yeah...I get it.
But...whatcha gonna do?
Everyone should still be welcomed here.
Yep, I've seen this, too. My take on it is that if there's no info to get a clue as to how they communicate or what angle they're coming from or whatever, then they aren't interested in being an actual part of this community and any words I'd post in response would be wasted on them. I might post for others reading but won't waste my time on a poster like you've described.
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RE: Hiddenness and Arrogance - 6/12/2008 12:25:10 PM
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doinkdom
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Community R Us
I like that
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RE: Hiddenness and Arrogance - 6/12/2008 12:51:49 PM
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GrahamCracker
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Yep, I've seen this, too. My take on it is that if there's no info to get a clue as to how they communicate or what angle they're coming from or whatever, then they aren't interested in being an actual part of this community and any words I'd post in response would be wasted on them. I might post for others reading but won't waste my time on a poster like you've described.
There has been a tendency for the last few decades to avoid allowing oneself to be labeled. People cannot label you if they don't have enough information to put you into a category.
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Sure we're under the law, everybody knows that!
When He said, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear. (Heb 10:13)
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RE: Hiddenness and Arrogance - 6/12/2008 12:56:03 PM
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CoeurdeLeon
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But see? You get labeled anyway.
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RE: Hiddenness and Arrogance - 6/12/2008 1:09:05 PM
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I just checked, and my label says "Inspected by #43."
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RE: Hiddenness and Arrogance - 6/12/2008 1:22:56 PM
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Some people may be paranoid about the internet, and listing anything personal at all.
Some have been judged by their occupation, marital status, etc. and don't want judging.
some just don't bother with setting it up.
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RE: Hiddenness and Arrogance - 6/12/2008 2:16:07 PM
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CoeurdeLeon
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But see? You get labeled anyway.
I bought into the "don't label me" and "don't stereotype me" gig a few years ago. I finally decided that it was my defensiveness that caused me to do that. I needed to be open enough to discuss what I thought without erecting barriers. That is a difficult thing to do.
If you think about it, it makes sense. We often construct artificial defense barriers to protect ourselves from pain. But it insulates us from relationships that we need.
I agree with that.
I don't have my name or email or where I'm from in my profile because I have kids to protect from potentially bad people. But I've put enough information in it that people can look and instantly see that I'm mostly a harmless goofball. And I'd MUCH rather be considered a goofball than an arrogant drive-by. I know people will label so I like picking the label myself.
I guess in reading the OP I was thinking of those who have their profile hidden or zero stuff filled in. I like to get a sense of who people are before I respond to them because it helps me to better 'speak their language' and I have a better chance of being understood rather than misunderstood. People who just want to post vitriol don't really give a hoot who they're talking to and don't seem to want others knowing them.
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RE: Hiddenness and Arrogance - 6/12/2008 2:19:18 PM
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After having been stalked and harrassed by someone that didn't like my theology, I chose to keep my information private.
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RE: Hiddenness and Arrogance - 6/12/2008 2:34:10 PM
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CoeurdeLeon
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I was just thinkin'......
The OP isn't saying "everyone who has their information hidden is arrogant". He's saying "most people who post arrogantly seem to have all their information hidden".
A fine but important distinction for those who aren't arrogant and chose not to disclose much or any info. 
Now for those of you who are arrogant.....I can't help ya. 
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RE: Hiddenness and Arrogance - 6/12/2008 2:35:14 PM
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After having been stalked and harrassed by someone that didn't like my theology, I chose to keep my information private.
I am public about my info to a slighty risky point.
However, it helps that I am clear that my politics include a strong belief in the second amendment, and defense of house and home is not an abridgement of my theology.
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