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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/20/2008 11:49:15 AM
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tracydolls
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As I'm seeing is the norm, you've misconstrued my words. The "fun" that is/was to be had is playing the race card...not suffering through a natural disaster.
Hmmm..... let me see, I was born black I'm gonna die black, but I can play like I'm black somedays? Interesting....you mean some days I can pass for white and some days I can pull out my Black skin and play that I'm a different race? I can play like there is racism, but there is really not?
How does one PLAY the race card, G-D hands out the colors, or rather He started out Black, and made white people for some reason.
but we can play like we are not Black today. LOL. I'm gonna try and see if I can pass for white today and play that race card! And then tommorrow I'm gonna play black again, or maybe I can play like I'm from the HUMAN race.
Hmmmm... How does one play a race card?
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/20/2008 11:52:24 AM
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As I'm seeing is the norm, you've misconstrued my words. The "fun" that is/was to be had is playing the race card...not suffering through a natural disaster.
Hmmm..... let me see, I was born black I'm gonna die black, but I can play like I'm black somedays? Interesting....you mean some days I can pass for white and some days I can pull out my Black skin and play that I'm a different race? I can play like there is racism, but there is really not?
How does one PLAY the race card, G-D hands out the colors, or rather He started out Black, and made white people for some reason.
but we can play like we are not Black today. LOL. I'm gonna try and see if I can pass for white today and play that race card! And then tommorrow I'm gonna play black again, or maybe I can play like I'm from the HUMAN race.
Hmmmm...
Wow tracydolls, tell us how you really feel about white people. Don't hold back, please.
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/20/2008 11:54:45 AM
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tracydolls
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Wow tracydolls, tell us how you really feel about white people. Don't hold back, please.
My mom is white and so are my grandchildren, remember at one time YOU thought I was a white racist.
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/20/2008 11:57:08 AM
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Wow tracydolls, tell us how you really feel about white people. Don't hold back, please.
My mom is white and so are my grandchildren, remember at one time YOU thoiught I was a white racist.
Well then I'm sure they would be just as happy to read what I just did.
And for your information, I was not accusing you of being a racist, I was sincerely asking whether you were being sarcastic or not, and then defending you against another who did actually accuse you of such.
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/20/2008 12:02:31 PM
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Well then I'm sure they would be just as happy to read what I just did.
And for your information, I was not accusing you of being a racist, I was sincerely asking whether you were being sarcastic or not, and then defending you against another who did actually accuse you of such.
Where did I lie in that post? My mother knows whites were not first, she knows the DNA says Africa. She has enough sense even before it came out about the DNA, that whites came from the caves in CAucasia, Rome found them..
What were you defending?
The OP is racist, I can handle that......you don't have to defend me or it
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/20/2008 12:08:14 PM
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Well then I'm sure they would be just as happy to read what I just did.
And for your information, I was not accusing you of being a racist, I was sincerely asking whether you were being sarcastic or not, and then defending you against another who did actually accuse you of such.
Where did I lie in that post? My mother knows whites were not first, she knows the DNA says Africa. She has enough sense even before it came out about the DNA, that whites came from the caves in CAucasia, Rome found them..
What were you defending?
The OP is racist, I can handle that......you don't have to defend me or it
Wow...there are some real anger issues there. I hope you're seeing a therapist about that. Even when someone tries to be nice to you, you kick 'em to the curb!
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/20/2008 12:09:11 PM
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Well then I'm sure they would be just as happy to read what I just did.
And for your information, I was not accusing you of being a racist, I was sincerely asking whether you were being sarcastic or not, and then defending you against another who did actually accuse you of such.
Where did I lie in that post? My mother knows whites were not first, she knows the DNA says Africa. She has enough sense even before it came out about the DNA, that whites came from the caves in CAucasia, Rome found them..
What were you defending?
The OP is racist, I can handle that......you don't have to defend me or it
When did I ever say you lied?
And furthermore, it's nothing to do with scientific evidence and all to do with the "for some reason" comment. Let me switch the words black and white in that statement and then how would you reply?
And I was defending that anyone would automatically accuse another of being racist over a post that looked to me to be nothing more than a sarcastic comment at the time. I would have put out the same posts regardless of if it were you or anyone else.
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/20/2008 1:05:02 PM
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Why is it that we're not seeing anything about the midwest flooding that resembles what we saw after Katrina hit New Orleans?
Why are we not seeing footage of people blaming Bush, the governer, the mayor, the federal government, my Uncle Bob, etc? Why are we not seeing footage of people demanding bank cards? Why are we not seeing footage of people looting?
What is it about the midwestern people that differs so greatly from the New Orleans people?
I live north of Milwaukee, where there were two surrounding community intersections that were shut down because of flooding.
However, we did not experience NEAR the amount of flooding, devastation as New Orleans. I pray that our government does more to help the people of New Orleans. I still can't fathom how the government failed people at such a tragic time - and STILL there are people without homes, living in poor conditions.
Peace and God bless,
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/20/2008 1:56:17 PM
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Why is it that we're not seeing anything about the midwest flooding that resembles what we saw after Katrina hit New Orleans?
Why are we not seeing footage of people blaming Bush, the governer, the mayor, the federal government, my Uncle Bob, etc? Why are we not seeing footage of people demanding bank cards? Why are we not seeing footage of people looting?
What is it about the midwestern people that differs so greatly from the New Orleans people?
I live north of Milwaukee, where there were two surrounding community intersections that were shut down because of flooding.
However, we did not experience NEAR the amount of flooding, devastation as New Orleans. I pray that our government does more to help the people of New Orleans. I still can't fathom how the government failed people at such a tragic time - and STILL there are people without homes, living in poor conditions.
Peace and God bless,
There are still people displaced by flooding that took place in Ohio two years ago. They're homes are destroyed, no flood insurance, they are managing day to day the best they can. Ever hear about that on the news?
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/20/2008 7:51:12 PM
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I still can't fathom how the government failed people at such a tragic time -
Because the government was the PROBLEM. It wasn't the feds that did wrong...it was the inept corrupt local government which hindered the feds.
Blaming Bush is easier than searching out the truth...eh?
I believe Jesse Jackson went to NO. How come he isn't going to Iowa?
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/20/2008 9:19:57 PM
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I believe Jesse Jackson went to NO. How come he isn't going to Iowa?
I'll bet it's because they're white!!!
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/21/2008 8:18:27 AM
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When did I ever say you lied?
And furthermore, it's nothing to do with scientific evidence and all to do with the "for some reason" comment.
Do you know the reason? Read the book of Habbukkukk.
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Let me switch the words black and white in that statement and then how would you reply?
Probaly same way. Sarcastic!
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And I was defending that anyone would automatically accuse another of being racist over a post that looked to me to be nothing more than a sarcastic comment at the time. I would have put out the same posts regardless of if it were you or anyone else.
Only contend for the faith!
You don't know me well enough to know if I am not a racist. Which by the way, I WAS A RACIST for a long time. Still struggle with it. It's a daily killing of the flesh for me.
Be careful, I can tell your a baby Christian, be careful what or who you defend, that's all I'm saying.
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/21/2008 8:22:11 AM
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Because the government was the PROBLEM. It wasn't the feds that did wrong...it was the inept corrupt local government which hindered the feds.
Blaming Bush is easier than searching out the truth...eh?
I believe Jesse Jackson went to NO. How come he isn't going to Iowa?
It was your commander in chief, in the end, it's up to the prez to make sure his citizens are ok.
How do you know JJ went to NO? Any links?
How come you ain't going to Iowa?
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/21/2008 8:30:49 AM
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You don't know me well enough to know if I am not a racist.
That was my exact point in defending you tracydolls. I didn't know and didn't want to jump to conlusions based on one statement without first letting you say your piece in this thread. I'm truly sorry if that offended you so badly. It of course was not intended.
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/21/2008 9:23:35 AM
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Because the government was the PROBLEM. It wasn't the feds that did wrong...it was the inept corrupt local government which hindered the feds.
Blaming Bush is easier than searching out the truth...eh?
I believe Jesse Jackson went to NO. How come he isn't going to Iowa?
It was your commander in chief, in the end, it's up to the prez to make sure his citizens are ok.
How do you know JJ went to NO? Any links?
How come you ain't going to Iowa?
No, it wasn't the president's fault but the governor's fault. She failed miserably and got the boot from office. The POTUS can't override the governor of any state in offering assistance. The feds have to be asked. She didn't ever ask because of the politics going on at the time.
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/21/2008 6:57:51 PM
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It was your commander in chief, in the end, it's up to the prez to make sure his citizens are ok.
Man's ability will get you man's rewards. When did we become the responsibility of others?
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/22/2008 11:50:56 AM
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That was my exact point in defending you tracydolls. I didn't know and didn't want to jump to conlusions based on one statement without first letting you say your piece in this thread. I'm truly sorry if that offended you so badly. It of course was not intended.
LOL. You did not offend me. That is not what I'm saying. ok Let's leave it there. I'm being....... at this point. Thank you for defending me.
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No, it wasn't the president's fault but the governor's fault. She failed miserably and got the boot from office. The POTUS can't override the governor of any state in offering assistance. The feds have to be asked. She didn't ever ask because of the politics going on at the time.
A disaster of that size, it's his fault. You mean the bipartisian politics, making liberals or dems out to be crazies. WEll Repugs started that.
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Man's ability will get you man's rewards. When did we become the responsibility of others?
You ever heard of
love your neighbor" any of that ring a bell? Sound familiar? Maybe heard it in school? Anything?
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/22/2008 1:44:21 PM
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No, it wasn't the president's fault but the governor's fault. She failed miserably and got the boot from office. The POTUS can't override the governor of any state in offering assistance. The feds have to be asked. She didn't ever ask because of the politics going on at the time.
A disaster of that size, it's his fault. You mean the bipartisian politics, making liberals or dems out to be crazies. WEll Repugs started that.
You obviously don't understand the Constitution. The feds can't just go into a state without being asked first. As far as the politics involved, I watched it start with Kathleen Blanko and Mary Landrieu blaming the President and the war for Louisiana not having enough National Guard troops available because they were over in Iraq. Instead of getting shelters lined up and the mandatory evacuation ordered in a timely manor the DEMOCRAT governor was panic stricken and paralyzed with inaction while Blabbermouth Mary Landrieu (D) was threatening to punch the President. Kathleen Blanko never did relinquish power to the feds. In case you are wondering why the other states affected by the storms had quicker federal assistance their COMPETENT governors set the ball rolling before Katrina hit.
For the record, when Kathleen BlanKo was running for governor against Bobby Jindal in one of the gubernatorial debates the question was asked of both candidates what their response would be if "The Big One" ever hit New Orleans. Bobby Jindal gave a detailed response starting out with getting all available assets in place including activating the federal response. The Dingbat simply stated she would contact the media.
In case you are wondering, I live in Lake Charles where we were slammed by Rita just three weeks later and this side of the state handled the recovery just fine because of the competent leaders we elected here. It would have been handled the same way had Katrina not happened because the people in this part of the state are smart enough to figure out that when a Cat 5 storm is heading straight for you, you leave. They learned it the hard way that you can't depend on the government to do their job when Hurricane Audrey hit in June, 1957. The new hurricane forecasting told them that they had time to leave and they should get a good night's sleep and leave in the morning. The storm sped up and and intensified hit at high tide during the early morning as a Cat 4 storm. Approximately 400-600 people died. Whenever there is a storm aiming for Cameron the people leave. The sheriff's department passes out toe tags and tells anyone stupid enough to stay behind to write their names, social security numbers and next of kin in permanent ink then duct tape it to their torso so that they can identify you if there is anything left. That usually does the trick to get people to leave.
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/22/2008 2:03:12 PM
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One more thing about the Democrat Governor royally messing up is that she had a trial run with Hurricane Ivan but was too busy for that evacuation over the birth of a grandchild to do it right then. In fact the way she handled the contraflow for Ivan or I should say didn't handle the contraflow, was possibly one reason many stayed behind because they didn't want to be stuck on the interstate when the storm hit. State and NOLA city officials discovered then that many people did not have transportation out and failed to utilize all assets to get people out of the way. As far as the Super Dome scenario, they had some idea how that would turn out after it being used for a shelter during Hurricane Georges in 1998. The Dome was looted and vandalized then and it was noted that more security would be needed. Of course it would help if people would mind their manners when facing a hard time and not destroying things.
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/22/2008 3:11:20 PM
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You obviously don't understand the Constitution.
Where in the Constitituion is this, please show me? I understand state rights, fighting the Civil war, yada, yada.
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The feds can't just go into a state without being asked first.
So Bush needs approval to go to a disaster hit American state but not another country?
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As far as the politics involved, I watched it start with Kathleen Blanko and Mary Landrieu blaming the President and the war for Louisiana not having enough National Guard troops available because they were over in Iraq. Instead of getting shelters lined up and the mandatory evacuation ordered in a timely manor the DEMOCRAT governor was panic stricken and paralyzed with inaction while Blabbermouth Mary Landrieu (D) was threatening to punch the President. Kathleen Blanko never did relinquish power to the feds. In case you are wondering why the other states affected by the storms had quicker federal assistance their COMPETENT governors set the ball rolling before Katrina hit.
For the record, when Kathleen BlanKo was running for governor against Bobby Jindal in one of the gubernatorial debates the question was asked of both candidates what their response would be if "The Big One" ever hit New Orleans. Bobby Jindal gave a detailed response starting out with getting all available assets in place including activating the federal response. The Dingbat simply stated she would contact the media.
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In case you are wondering, I live in Lake Charles where we were slammed by Rita just three weeks later and this side of the state handled the recovery just fine because of the competent leaders we elected here. It would have been handled the same way had Katrina not happened because the people in this part of the state are smart enough to figure out that when a Cat 5 storm is heading straight for you, you leave. They learned it the hard way that you can't depend on the government to do their job when Hurricane Audrey hit in June, 1957. The new hurricane forecasting told them that they had time to leave and they should get a good night's sleep and leave in the morning. The storm sped up and and intensified hit at high tide during the early morning as a Cat 4 storm. Approximately 400-600 people died. Whenever there is a storm aiming for Cameron the people leave. The sheriff's department passes out toe tags and tells anyone stupid enough to stay behind to write their names, social security numbers and next of kin in permanent ink then duct tape it to their torso so that they can identify you if there is anything left. That usually does the trick to get people to leave.
I agree with you here, Blanco, disaster! Doe's not take away from GWB...
but here's where I differ....
Example:
I am a retired school teacher, 93 years old living on social security, it comes on the 3rd of the month. I live in the same house I been living in for 40 years in 9th Ward. It's paid for.
Now these people on the news say lets leave, it's coming. I was here for Betsy. I was even here in '27 when they did blow up the levees and make black folk sand bag with rifles to head.
I'm hoping to leave but have no money until 6 days from now. I don't know what to do .. but pray that the Lord helps me out.
I heard those kinda of stories.
There is no excuse for any of them really. But Bush is the President.
Top Dawg. No EXCUSE.
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/22/2008 4:07:08 PM
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That is where the shelters come into play. The state of Louisiana and New Orleans KNEW that there would be approximately 300,000 people without transportation or financial means to leave. Nagin let the school buses be parked and flooded and BlanKo failed to provide other plentiful state resources to provide for the citizens needs. Nagin told AMTRAK no when they offered their empty trains to evacuate people out of harms way. If worse came to worse they just had to get out of the flood zones. Again, New Orleans was given a trial run with Hurricane Ivan just the year before.
For the elderly people who had able bodied children who did not take care of their parents there is no excuse. Ultimately in a time of natural disaster it has to come down to individual responsibility. I have lived in New Orleans and I knew then that if the levees gave way that I was a goner. I have heard about the "Big One" since grade school so there is NO EXCUSE for the people to act like this was a big surprise. I do understand not thinking the worst case scenario would happen. I do think most people in New Orleans that stayed thought that Katrina would do what all the other hurricanes since Betsy did, turn at the last minute. Unfortunately their number was up.
Southwest Louisiana has had their evacuation protocol in place and when needed USED IT, unlike New Orleans who spent millions on their evacuation plan. It would have worked if it had been used. In fact when we had so many extra evacuees, and we had a lot, the mayor here updated the evacuation plans within a week taking into account the many New Orleans people without transportation. Little did he know that he would have to implement it two weeks later. In fact the way the evacuation was handled in SWLA was textbook that avoided a lot of the issues Texas had by utilizing parallel alternate routes for evacuation for people riding buses, being medivacced out, prisoners etc. I used the back roads to get out of dodge for Rita after learning the hard way that evacuation routes are nothing more than long parking lots. It pays to know those many alternate routes out of town. It's also much easier to find gas in those small towns off the beaten path.
Part of the problem is that many of those who lived in New Orleans were so dependent on the government to take care of them that they did not know how to think for themselves in order to save their lives. I don't have a lot of money, but I make sure that I have enough to get out of danger if a storm is coming my way. My house has survived two major storms without any damage, only by God's grace and the tornado jumping my house during Rita. My neighbors weren't so lucky. I will not stay with a Cat 2 or higher storm coming. I will get out of the way if another storm comes along, even if it's to head to a Super Walmart in a town outside the danger zone. I will not wait on the government to tell me what to do.
It is the local and state government's responsibility to be the first responders after a major disaster. The feds take at least 72 hours to get moving because of the way things are set up. When people learn that they have to be prepared before hand and then take precautions when they are told to that frees up the government agencies to handle the recovery as quickly as possible.
Again, the biggest failure in all of this was Kathleen Blanko. She was given the boot and will be remembered as the worst governor in a natural disaster.
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/22/2008 5:18:04 PM
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Part of the problem is that many of those who lived in New Orleans were so dependent on the government to take care of them that they did not know how to think for themselves in order to save their lives.
YEP!
Here in Indiana a couple winters back some people were without heat after a MAJOR ice and snowstorm knocked out electricity to many homes. Some for weeks.
Who stepped in to help. Well it wasn't the government. It was the church. It was neighbors helping neighbors and friends helping friends. People didn't go to shelters in our rural area (even though a couple churches offered space should it be needed) they were brought by LOCAL officials to the homes of neighbors or volunteers that still had power and heat.
Granted the N.O. fiasco was on a much larger scale - but once people start becoming too dependent on government funds and assistance and loose the ability to think beyond what the government is or isn't doing to help them - well that's when things like the Super Dome happen. It's an entitlement attitude that is so pervasive in our country today.
That coupled with inept government officials and you have nothing but problems.
My sister is currently in a flood plain area near Hannibal, Missouri. She has told me time and time again that she has seen more spirit of community and communities pulling together for the good of EVERYONE here then she ever saw when she lived in Minneapolis or the time she spent on the west coast or when she was in New Orleans working on a clean up mission. She said that people are pitching in HOWEVER and WHEREVER they can, without complaining or wondering when someone else is going to come and save them. Those that were told to evacuate have evacuated their homes - moved children and families to hire ground and many have come back to do what they can to help save someone else's home or business. If they can't fill sandbags they are serving meals at shelters - helping the elderly or disabled evacuate or driving to outlying areas and bringing back clean water and food for those in need or the volunteers that are working.
I have noticed over the years having lived both rural and urban that folks in more rural communities and areas do tend to be more self-sufficient and more able to think and ACT when faced with trials. They don't wait for some official to tell them where to go and what to do - simply because they already KNOW and many have made arrangements should stuff like this flood happen again.
Yes it's going to be bad and really tough for many folks in the middle of the country for awhile - but after the flood waters recede a bit, they'll pull themselves up by their own bootstraps and get back to the business of living.
Blessings,
Garsy
< Message edited by garsyt -- 6/22/2008 5:56:20 PM >
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RE: No fuss about flooding? - 6/22/2008 9:09:44 PM
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tracydolls
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That is where the shelters come into play. The state of Louisiana and New Orleans KNEW that there would be approximately 300,000 people without transportation or financial means to leave. Nagin let the school buses be parked and flooded and BlanKo failed to provide other plentiful state resources to provide for the citizens needs. Nagin told AMTRAK no when they offered their empty trains to evacuate people out of harms way. If worse came to worse they just had to get out of the flood zones. Again, New Orleans was given a trial run with Hurricane Ivan just the year before.
What shelters? The Dome? how do I a 93 year old woman get to a shelter?
Nagin- A repug turncoat, we already discussed Blanco.
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For the elderly people who had able bodied children who did not take care of their parents there is no excuse. Ultimately in a time of natural disaster it has to come down to individual responsibility. I have lived in New Orleans and I knew then that if the levees gave way that I was a goner. I have heard about the "Big One" since grade school so there is NO EXCUSE for the people to act like this was a big surprise. I do understand not thinking the worst case scenario would happen. I do think most people in New Orleans that stayed thought that Katrina would do what all the other hurricanes since Betsy did, turn at the last minute. Unfortunately their number was up.
All of our number's will be up. Death has a 100% rate. How can a baby be responsible in a disaster? Or children? Or the elderly?
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Part of the problem is that many of those who lived in New Orleans were so dependent on the government to take care of them that they did not know how to think for themselves in order to save their lives.
Go where , do what?, with what? Nobody seemed to be panicking, why should they?
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I don't have a lot of money, but I make sure that I have enough to get out of danger if a storm is coming my way. My house has survived two major storms without any damage, only by God's grace and the tornado jumping my house during Rita. My neighbors weren't so lucky. I will not stay with a Cat 2 or higher storm coming. I will get out of the way if another storm comes along, even if it's to head to a Super Walmart in a town outside the danger zone. I will not wait on the government to tell me what to do.
Ok, where you running to, and when something hits that area, then where? How ya gonna keep working at a job from miles away?
We all are guilty of saying to ourselves: I would've, should've, could've, if that was me....etc.
But as Christians we should what? Love...
I still feel sorry for Katrina victims, and they were VICTIMS of a natural and man made disaster.
I feel sorry for those along the river now.
I feel sorry for the typhoon that just hit Phillipines.
But I don't see one group as better, more whatever....
Those homeless from Katrina are just as homeless as those from floods.
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